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    Marlboro Man's Avatar

    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    A long time ago, we had a great receiver with great hands. His name was Eric Martin. If you put the ball anywhere around him he could catch it. Made a lot of incredible catches too, but even though we won a pretty good amount of games, we never got to the playoffs, never won a playoff game and didn't win any Super Bowls with him as great as he was. Part of the reason for this was because we didn't have the speed merchant. The guy that could take the top off of a defense. Eric would make a lot of plays but teams would just clamp down on our offense because we didn't have that player that put fear into a defense. Finally we got that with Devery Henderson and still had the hands receivers in Colston, and Moore and we won a playoff game, we won an NFCCG and we won a Super Bowl.

    What I'm getting at here is that without that WR that can flat out burn you if you sleep on him, teams will slowly during the course of a game clamp down on defense and crowd the line of scrimmage and stop the run as well as clamp down on your slow WR's to the point where they will beat you. Even if your speed WR doesn't have the greatest hands (Devery Henderson as an example) he will still catch a ball every so often. Enough so that teams must respect the fact that you can get behind them and score some points if they crowd the line too much. It's the threat as much as the catch. We had the great D and a pretty good O, but when you don't scare a defense they will eat you alive. Right now we have only 1 speed WR who is basically destined to become a faster Lance Moore slot WR that has #1 WR speed and hands. We have Toon to take Colston's spot as the slower bigger possession WR, and we have the speed WR that can scare defenses in Morgan. Problem is, we don't have any depth. In this draft, we have the opportunity to get both depth at the speed WR spot and the possession WR spot and if it's me, I'm going for the speed guy first as those are the players that will be gone the soonest then with the depth in the draft for WR's, I'll get my hands guy later, but don't count out a guy that's fast just because he has only slightly worse hands than the slower guy.
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    Posted 05-06-2014 at 01:21 PM by Marlboro Man Marlboro Man is offline
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    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    I too love Jarvis Landry. I didn't watch the video but we all know about his phenomenal hands and the clutch catches he's made. Did the video show what a great blocker and special teams player he's been? He thinks he's a linebacker. Very big hands, catches EVERYTHING!, great blocker, breaks tackles, and stronger than he looks. He may not be the best WR in this draft class, but I think he's in the top 5. The tall kid from A&M looks great. I hope we get two great WRs and a stud tailback. I wonder where Jeremy Hill will get picked?
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    Posted 05-05-2014 at 12:37 PM by billyt81 billyt81 is offline
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    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    Knocked it out of the park J-S, IMO (it's baseball season & I feel obligated to use baseball metaphors, ) ... I've been getting buried with all the Sammy Watkins conversation in my neck-of-the-woods & keep thinking, "Why is no one talking about a value-pick if this draft is so heavy with WR's & who would it be?" ... this guy would make a great #2 or #3 behind Calvin & Golden Tate and at the right price too, .
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    Posted 04-25-2014 at 06:18 AM by SloMotion SloMotion is offline
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    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    Ive had the same feeling about Landry even before draft talks started. Dark Horse Son!!!
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    Posted 04-15-2014 at 11:11 PM by B_Dub_Saint B_Dub_Saint is offline
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    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    This didn't change my mind any. Only because I've been saying this about him for the past couple years. He has the best hands I have ever seen, by a wide margin. You can definitely see it in this video.

    Thanks for posting and giving him some respect he deserves.
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    Posted 04-13-2014 at 07:29 PM by burningmetal burningmetal is offline
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    Landry over Beckham Jr.

    For the spot lights it is Beckham hands down. He provides all the media and fans with the glitz and glamor they love. But IMO it is in Landry you will find a longevity and the ultimate love for a player. He will not give you the highlight reels for ESPN like Odell but by all odds will be productive from day one till the end of his playing day,
    Much like Fitzgerald and Boldin in Arizona. Week in and week out Fitz puts up the highlights and Boldin produced quietly. Not until he left the cards did the average fan start to see how much of an impact he had on a game. I see the same here. I always liked Boldin over Fitz so i might be bias in my view here.
    Of all the WR in the draft i can only see Landry as a player that has a chance to duplicate Boldins effect on a game. He is a top my wr board for the saints style of offense. Landry is my player to make those unreal plays time and time again to keep drives alive. That equals more points for the saints and fewer chances for opposing teams to score. not highlight reel material but it does put more "W's" up at the end of a season.
    It all comes down to ATTITUDE.
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    Posted 04-13-2014 at 05:56 AM by hagan714 hagan714 is offline
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    Are the Saints in a very bad position going into 2012?

    Long as we keep brees we are ok cause we have the number one tight end and three dominating running backs but we shore need colston for shore we need some one on the other side of the field to jump instead of going to Jimmy everytime and Robert Meacham this guy is fast man I say cut people who's not playing to much and keep Robert and Markus I know we need secondary and its all about the salary cap we need impact players for next season because super bowl is in our house next year and we gotta be one of the teams plyin in it and the team winning it
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    Posted 01-21-2012 at 12:36 AM by jonathon700 jonathon700 is offline
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    Are the Saints in a very bad position going into 2012?

    We need to re sign Nicks to. He's a free agent now.
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    Posted 01-17-2012 at 10:36 PM by Haps Biggest Fan Haps Biggest Fan is offline
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    Are the Saints in a very bad position going into 2012?

    Personally I think this article is way overblown. We just about beat (and should have...) a top-notch SF team WITHOUT Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, and Lance Moore. It would be truly sad to see either Meachem or Colston go, but I wouldn't be surprised by it.

    Maybe a miracle will occur: The Saints work out a long-term deal with Brees, slap the franchise tag on Colston, and somehow keep Meachem in the process. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.
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    Posted 01-17-2012 at 03:18 AM by SaintsRule11 SaintsRule11 is offline
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    Are the Saints in a very bad position going into 2012?

    When Drew Brees is the starting quarterback for your team, you're starting off the season in great position.
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    Posted 01-16-2012 at 02:06 PM by papz papz is offline
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    Well oiled machine

    OK, call me wrong on that one. Teams SF played won 115 games, teams GB played won 117 games, and teams our Saints' played won 113, so...pretty much statistically even.

    Interesting weirdness on same teams played. It plays to the Saints' doing poorly against teams with really bad records, for some reason, less practice perhaps, don't have to win? Whatever.

    Anyway, San Francisco beat Tampa 48-3, the Saints' lost 26-20, in their first meeting, playing as if drugged, and won 27-16 in their second.

    Saints lost to St. Louis 31-21, another hapless contest, while SF won twice, 26-0, and later 34-27--did SF get worse, or St. Louis get better? You decide.

    Games that mattered--Detroit, SF won 25-19, and the Saints' won with 31-17 first, then 45-28 which would've easily been 52-28 without the kindness of taking three knees, and ending the game mercifully. Plus, the late Detroit game shows much improvement, against a stronger, more healthy Detroit team.

    Finally, SF beat the Giants 27-20, and the Saints smoked them 49-24, and if I remember correctly, they could've probably run that score up a bit too.

    I tend to dismiss the teams that aren't doing well, as for whatever reason, perhaps they just rest a bit during weeks where they play teams they feel are inconsequential. But against the better teams, the Saints' did better, and they made a run at the end that looks better than SF did, who appears to be closer to where the Saints' were during their sag-period, losing to Tampa and the Rams.
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    Posted 01-09-2012 at 01:19 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Well oiled machine

    I think you mean "who's that," joker-saint. (who is)

    Yea, you really hit on something, which is WEAK SCHEDULE at the 49ers. Actually, that might be a better tiebreak than the conference record, just add up all the wins of the opponents. Give me some time and I might just do that myself.
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    Posted 01-09-2012 at 12:43 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Well oiled machine

    Answer to ddub19's question

    Answer to ddub19's question: "Why do the Saint say " who dat"? because there too stupid to know how to spell "whos that!" Maybe its time to leave the swamp and go back to school!!!!" Unfortunately that is a chant that has stuck with this team since the early 80's. As far as them being too stupid to spell "Whos that!" I believe it is who's....lol, but thats ok. You also said "Why do the Saint say" It's a good thing spelling touchdown isn't required to put 7 on the board, because thats all Brees is going to do next week too. I believe this will be a very good game though. The niners do have a great defense. Who have they played? Seattle, 22nd in passing and 21st in rushing. Dallas, 7th in passing and 18th in rushing, and they lost.(No worries....We lost to them too when we were 13 and 0) Cincinnati, 20th in passing and 19th in rushing, pretty close game there too. Philidelphia, 9th in passing and 5th in rushing, which was a 1 point game. Tampa, 16th and 30th, and worst team in the NFC South. Detroit, 4th and 29th and you only won by 6 ^^^^ TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SCORE ^^^^ thats was you first 6 games and none of them were elite teams. ClE, 24th and 28th-WAS, 14th and 25th-NYG 5th and 32nd-17th and 24th-BAL 17th and 25th and so on and so forth.....The SAINTS are 1st and 6th. Lets hope your lights dont cut out on you during this game. Brees will definitely enjoy that down time.
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    Posted 01-08-2012 at 03:03 AM by joker-saint joker-saint is offline
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    Well oiled machine

    Still waiting on a comment from the niners fans on this one

    Still waiting to hear from some niners fans: Any defense can be ranked first againt the rush when they play teams who are on average 20th and below in rushing. The niners played one team that was ranked 5th which was the Eagles. Outcome 416 yards passing and 2 TD's by Vick, 108 rushing with 75 of those coming from Vick. Vick isn't even a running back. Do you think you will stop 3 top notch running backs if you couldn't even stop Vick? The outcome told the story there. 1 point game. Now place Sproles, Thomas, and Ivory back there along with the number 1 ranked passing in the league. Good luck Niners. This is a great match up
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    Posted 01-08-2012 at 03:02 AM by joker-saint joker-saint is offline
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    Saints showing limited playbook on offense and defense.

    With Washington's injury problems, he might have a tough time making the team.
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    Posted 08-24-2011 at 07:39 AM by jcp026 jcp026 is offline
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    Saints showing limited playbook on offense and defense.

    Amaya instead of Parson. My mistake.
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    Posted 08-23-2011 at 06:02 PM by jcp026 jcp026 is offline
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    Saints showing limited playbook on offense and defense.

    QB-Brees, Daniel
    HB- Thomas, Ingram, Sproles, Ivory(if healthy)
    FB-Hall
    WR-Colston, Moore, Meachem, Arrington, Morgan
    TE-Graham, Thomas, Humphrey, Lorenzen
    LT-Bushrod, Brown
    LG-Nicks
    C-Kreutz, Tennant
    RG-Evans
    RT-Strief

    RE-Smith, McBride, Galette
    DT-Ellis, Rogers, Franklin, King
    LE-Jordan, Brown
    OLB-Herring, Wilson
    MLB-Vilma, Dunbar
    OLB Casillas, Shanle, Bussey
    CB-Greer, Porter, Robinson, Patrick, Washington, Parson
    FS-Jenkins, Sharper
    SS-Harper, Prioleau, Ries

    K-Hartley
    P-Moorstead
    LS-Drescher
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    Posted 08-23-2011 at 04:55 PM by jcp026 jcp026 is offline
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    Saints showing limited playbook on offense and defense.

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    Originally Posted by jcp026 View Comment
    Is it "who do you think will" or "who would you chose?"
    And do you have Mitch King starting over Rogers and Franklin? Is Vilma your starting ROLB?
    Always get confused on the position of line backers. Should have just put LB. Rogers and Franklin are shoe ins I am sure, but King was very impressive. Franklin sprained his ankle and has already showed how fragile he can be so I chose King. Not that Franklin isn't a good choice, I just liked Kings side line to side line speed, and the solid tackles he made. I watch each game in slow motion to see the defensive mechanics of each player. King seemed to stand out the most. Probably will just get overlooked just like Casillas did last year but thats just how it is when you have other big names on the team ahead of them. No doubt Franklin and Rogers were brought in to be high impact players, but in my opinion we could have spent the money elsewhere because we have very talented young players on our defense. Maybe we should have solidified the secondary a little better? We had a chance to get Nnamd Asomugha when the lockout lifted but opted to go with a defensive front four option instead. As for your question about who do you think or would you choose, Its who would you choose?
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    Posted 08-23-2011 at 03:27 PM by joker-saint joker-saint is offline
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    Posted 08-22-2011 at 10:20 PM by foreverfan foreverfan is offline
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    Saints showing limited playbook on offense and defense.

    Is it "who do you think will" or "who would you chose?"
    And do you have Mitch King starting over Rogers and Franklin? Is Vilma your starting ROLB?
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    Posted 08-22-2011 at 05:21 PM by jcp026 jcp026 is offline

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