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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    Hilarious link neugey! It's about time the media quit riding Tebow's jock and started poking some serious fun at him, SNL notwithstanding. Plus, you guys gotta' luv the Seahawk reference at the beginning, lol! Had to add it to my favorites so I can watch it a few more times, haha!
    Posted 01-11-2012 at 06:43 AM by SloMotion SloMotion is offline
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    Some Interesting (to me) stats on NO, GB, and SF

    Yeah, but if anybody could compile stats on emotion, the smart money would be on you, mike27. Emotion is one of those untangibles you just can't measure, but it's a real factor in the outcome of a game. Everybody is going to be up the game, but the Saints have the 'calm under fire' to focus on the prize. That's all Sean Payton.

    When the Lions went to artificial turf in 1975, it changed the characteristic of the team forever. They never got it done on natural turf as much after that. It's a very real concern for teams that don't have natural turf at home, IMO.

    It's hard to believe people would discount the Saints run game. I knew about Sproles, but Thomas adds the second punch to a 1-2 punch running game. The Saints will get the tough yards when they need 'em and you have a sure 100yds a game on the ground, "I ga-ron-tee". (that's my Justin Wilson tribute, my favorite cooking show of all time). Plus, Sproles returns kicks. You gotta' like a guy like that. Anybody discounts the Saints running game, shame on them.

    I do want to point out Arrington was a Michigan boy before he was a Saint , you guys got a steal and you're bringing him along right. He was always the #1/#2 guy with the Wolverines and made the key catches. He can be a big game receiver if you need him to be.

    All in all, things are looking up in the ol' Big Easy.
    Posted 01-11-2012 at 06:35 AM by SloMotion SloMotion is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    I'm sorry Saintfan, but please stop now. If I have to hear one more prediction or critique, of any kind, about Tebow, I will throw up.

    To me religious one's religious beliefs and practices are very personal and should be kept mostly private. His public praying is, to me, simply a shameless evangelical flaunt.

    We all believe SOMETHING. And, we all have potential.

    He may prove to be an outstanding NFL quarterback but, he has not proven that this season. He may prove to be an outstanding Christian, but that is not a competition. And, the only person(s) to whom he needs to prove the quality of his faith, is himself, and his God.
    Posted 01-11-2012 at 03:39 AM by WHO_DAT_CAT WHO_DAT_CAT is offline
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    Some Interesting (to me) stats on NO, GB, and SF

    Well I find them encouraging, but they don't count much for emotion, or turf, or location, or enthusiasm. But I don't think the Saints' are short on that either, so...I feel pretty good about it.

    I just hope they've been practicing on turf a bit, doing some running, getting those cleat sizes just right, etc....like I suggested in another forum, after that Steelers game, they might want to take some lights and a generator, but then I don't remember, the game might be in the daytime anyway.

    I feel like a lot of the commentary has been discounting the Saints' running game too. I think it's pretty damn good myself. Personally I like Ivory as much as Ingram, and Arrington is stepping in for Moore, and he's good too.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 11:15 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Some Interesting (to me) stats on NO, GB, and SF

    Wow! That's a slam-dunk ... I can't even come up with an argument for argument's sake ... stats don't lie.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 05:41 PM by SloMotion SloMotion is offline
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    Posted 01-10-2012 at 05:27 PM by neugey neugey is offline
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    Some Interesting (to me) stats on NO, GB, and SF

    Good stuff Mike. Lot of research.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 01:52 PM by SapperSaint SapperSaint is offline
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    Beat by Both; A Lions fan's perspective on Saints/Forty-Niners

    I actually compared the wins of opponents, and found GB had the hardest, SF the next hardest, and the Saints' third, with 117, 115, and 113 wins, so that's pretty much statistically insignificant.

    I did some same-opponents comparisons on a blog--I'm sure they are not totally significant, but it's worth a look-see, and I felt like the Saints' might have come out, for the most part, with a slight plus and form advantages. Check it out if you like.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 01:49 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    Kind of double-posted--how do I delete one of them, or is done, done?
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 01:45 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    Great post SF. Pleasure to read. Keep it coming.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 01:19 PM by SapperSaint SapperSaint is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    I'm not much of a religionist, and I really don't care for his basic theft of the pose, sans seat, of the sculpture "The Thinker." (google it)

    The irritating thing with religion is, you never get any credit for your hard work, or effort, yet if things go bad, you get all the blame. So, where is the self-esteem in that? To play in the NFL, or do anything successfully, you've got to have self-esteem, and you've got to accept that when good things happen you should get the credit, and when bad things happen, usually they are somewhat your fault, though certainly exceptions occur both ways.

    I do like the way he'll run the ball once and a while. I think that makes the game more interesting, though I certainly understand why quarterbacks don't.

    Like the SNL skit said, with Brady and the Patriots, I think Jesus is going to say "You're on your own!" Not only is his ride over, at least for this year, but I think there is going to be some substantial running up of the score.

    Plus I find proselytizing of religion really, really irritating. If you want to believe, fine. Don't spew that stuff all over the place, keep it in the closet as the bible directs, or one might think you hope to glean some sort of advantage with your holy-roller antics.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 11:40 AM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    Tim Tebow is what you would call an 'enigma', a puzzling or inexplicable occurrence or situation. He's the worst QB in the league, but he's pure money when the game is on the line. Can't do anything but win. My prediction? In the off-season, John Fox contacts Urban Meyer for his Florida playbook and Denver scraps their offense so Tebow can run the Florida offense for the Broncos. Bet.

    After doubting Tebow since his college days, I begrudgingly give him his props, you gotta' love a scrapper. :SloMotion does the 'Tebow' pose:

    go Lions.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 08:14 AM by SloMotion SloMotion is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    Blessed are you when men curse and revile and say all manner of
    evil against you, falsely... (because you are Mine?)

    He's the GW Bush of football.
    I love him.

    great read, SF.
    Posted 01-10-2012 at 07:37 AM by skymike skymike is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    I'm a non-believer but I do like Tebow for the work ethic reasons. Kind of like Doug Flutie he is a total underdog, one that is fun to watch and keep tabs on even if you're not necessarily a fan.

    And boo to Mike Tomlin. He should know by now ... NO ONE can escape overtime a victor against Tim Tebow. You go for two to win the game in regulation if there is any chance for overtime. Tebow will win coin flip and will win the game, and just watch because he will do it again. (Half-kidding here)
    Posted 01-09-2012 at 07:56 PM by neugey neugey is offline
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    Tebow Is Winning Me Over

    I hated Tebow as a collegiate player and I hate him as a quarterback. But for some strange reason, I can't help but root for Timmy Tebags.
    Posted 01-09-2012 at 04:08 PM by papz papz is offline
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    Yea, I kind of thought that was the case with the attempt at the fourth down early--but it made sense when the Saints' did it, with Detroit scoring almost at will. Early in the game, well, it just didn't cut it. Kick the field goal, and who knows. Three points is three points early.

    I noticed something about Eli--he plays a whole lot better once he gets pissed off, after that sack.

    I just think they peaked early, and have been on the decline for a while, and had a bit of that "we aren't quite good enough," despair.

    I guess it's old news. Steelers were like the Saints' last year, just too damn beaten up to compete.
    Posted 01-09-2012 at 03:34 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Some Interesting (to me) stats on NO, GB, and SF

    OK, first I'd like to say it looks like you couldn't get a piece of paper to slide between the abilities of the teams. That said, the same oddness occurs with teams with losing records, or fairly inconsequential teams with GB.

    Head to head, remember the first game, Saints' lose 42-34. I never took that one hard, as Green Bay was of course last years' superbowl champs, and the Saints' were on the half-yard line, a touchdown and a two point conversion from tying. That game, like much of what is to follow here, just showed a nearly identical strength. Green Bay just happened to get a bit of an advantage from an early mistake, a fumble, and managed to be a bit ahead at the end. The Saints outplayed them for almost the rest of the game.

    Chicago was beaten 27-17 and 35-21 by GB, and the Saints' beat them 30-13, maybe slightly favoring our team.

    Carolina was beaten 30-23 by GB, and the Saints' two divisional games were 30-27, and 45-17, edge goes to N.O. I think on that one, especially since the last game represents the current strength.

    Atlanta lost to Green Bay 25-14, and the Saints beat Atlanta 26-23 away, and 45-16 at home. I think Atlanta was on the wane already in the second game, and the Saints' were just getting stronger. So this one is somewhere between a toss-up and a slight favoring of the Saints'.

    Minnesota, an inconsequential team, that the Saints' nearly always do poorly with (still not sure why, but I know there is a reason), lost to the Saints 42-20. Green Bay beat them twice, 33-27, and 45-7 later. Got to give this one to Green Bay. I wish the Saints' could address their weak-team problem, but maybe it's just a try not to get injured strategy, or practice less and try to recover, or I don't really need to win this one.

    Tampa lost to Green Bay 35-26, and the Saints split 20-26, and 27-16 later at home. Is it turf? I hope they get some practice time in on grass, hopefully trying to simulate San Francisco. Maybe they should bring some lights with them, or generators after the SF, Steelers game.

    Detroit, both played two games, both won two games, GB 27-15 and 45-41, and N.O. 31-17 and 45-28. That's 72-56 and 76-45, so this one goes to the Saints', tho GB was using a second string quarterback, New Orleans clearly would have likely scored yet another touchdown, and run it up to 52-28, which I sort of wanted them to do, but I guess it made sense to be nice.

    (whew, lots of common games) The New York Giants, a very inconsistent, skitzoid team, Green Bay 38-35, the Saints' 49-24--got to give this one to the Saints' for a couple of reasons, the drubbing in the score, which also could've been run up if I remember. And the Giants, maybe playing Green Bay again, with their strong, hard hitting defense may ding them up a bit more.

    So, if Colston or some other receiver doesn't gift them a lead with a fumble early, or Brees doesn't throw an interception early, I think the Saints' have every possible chance to beat Green Bay, even at home. And even if it's windy and snowy, I'd have to give our runners the advantage in inclement weather, so we're healthy. Maybe they should not only practice on turf, but in a cold, cold place. Winter may not have completely arrived yet, but by the Super Bowl it might just get here.
    Posted 01-09-2012 at 03:19 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline

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