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Why I wanted to trade Jimmy Graham

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Posted 06-08-2014 at 02:52 PM by SAINTstunna

Hear me out before you jump to conclusions and wrongfully bash me. I am sick of this Jimmy Graham saga and wish he goes away. As many of you have posted in the past, JG is one dimensional and is soft as doctor's cotton. He can't block or create separation against bigger corners guarding him. On any other team with any other quarter back he would not have those spectacular numbers. I want him to test the market and see if the grass is greener on the other side. Yes, he will get more money, but his production will be cut in half. We can't cripple the team giving this dude this contract and have almost 200 million tied up between Him and Drew Brees.
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    Not quite sure how you would want to let go of a 6'6 270 pound TE who runs like a deer when healthy. The guy was having a MONSTER season until his injury week 6. He tore his Plantar Fascia man, this causes some serious pain. Still, his play only suffered in a few games against teams who had good game plans to take him out of the game. He finished the season with 86 grabs for 1,215 yards with 16 TDs(league leading) with a 14.1 average. Including six 100+ yard games. Some one else has to step up in games against teams that have an effective game plan, Jimmy can't do everything. With Cooks being the threat he is I think the pressure will be taken back off a Graham and he will have another monster season. Not trying to bash you. I just feel like he's worth it.
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    Posted 06-08-2014 at 03:54 PM by whodatson504 whodatson504 is offline

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    I'm so tired of this bull with Graham...U know u r not a wide receiver...U even was elected to the Pro Bowl as a Tight End... The Saints were willing to make u the highest paid tight end which u rightfully deserved... I don't know if Graham is taking this approach himself or listening to his agent or what but it needs to come to an end... Like I've stated before, we won a ring without him, even though it would be very nice to have him for this run, we've shown we can do it without him... And now with the pieces we've added I feel this team is just as good if not better than the '09 team... So if he can't get his mind right, Mickey should go ahead and pull the trigger for a trade and take a 1st and two 3s ... We wouldn't have the burden of his contract and we can sign a Jermicheal Finley if he is physically fit...


    Talk to a team of our liking, preferably Tennessee or Buffalo (AFC)
    Seattle, New England and San Francisco can offer all they want but no dice...

    JUST MY THOUGHTS
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    Posted 06-08-2014 at 04:09 PM by davethe3 davethe3 is offline
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    As I believe I've pointed out in other posts the ship of JG being gone has sailed. There are only three possible outcomes and one is virtually impossible:

    1. Long term contract
    2. JG plays under the 1 year tender.
    3. JG holds out the entire season (this is the virtually impossibility)

    It's just not possible to separate a player from the context they play in. Stating that JG would be a lesser player on another team is a moot point. The point is over the last 3 years JG has had close to historic production for a TE in the system he's in. To let that production get away for nothing would be foolish on the team's part.

    As for the money, we all know that all NFL contracts are barely worth the paper they are written on. The only money that counts is the guaranteed money. Everything else is subject to restructure or if necessary releasing the player on the back end of the contract. As you can see from the last 4-5 QB contracts, that Brees' $60 million guaranteed is almost a bargain. And he will restructure when the times comes and if he wants to continue playing.

    And Dave, it's not possible to trade a player that you do not have under contract. As of this moment JG is a free agent. The Saints only rights to him are under the franchise tender. They have no rights to trade.

    And once again I just have to wonder about everyone's frustration about someone trying to get paid a fair wage to do their job. Despite the fact that the discussion is about 10s of millions of dollars, I'd bet a dime to a dollar that we would all operate under the same principles if we were in a similar situation.

    1. If you were doing a job for a training wage and you were doing the job better than anyone has ever done it, when it was time to sign for the contract, would you not want to get as much as you could?

    2. If you had an opportunity to reclassify your job position and get a 20% raise, would you not put in the paperwork?

    3. If other companies were offering you top dollar for your services, would you not go back to the company you were working for and ask for a raise that's close the offers you are getting from others?

    4. Would you expect your family and friends to get mad with you because you are trying to get paid?

    5. Finally if the offer wasn't as good as the outside offers would you stay with your current company and give them "the hometown discount" out of loyalty?

    I know we are all passionate about the Saints. But this is business and making a living for the players, staff, and organizations. I fully expect that top rated players are going ask for, and are often given, close to fair market value for their services. To expect otherwise is nonsensical.

    I still shake my head at fans that thought that we needed to let Brees go during his last contract negotiation.

    Let me give you some prospective on this. There are currently 8 tight ends in the NFL HOF (with Gonzales and Gates to be locks). With 41 TDs over 4 years Graham has already passed 3 of them on the all time TD list. With 15 more (not an unreasonable goal for 2014), he will have passed everyone except for Shannon Sharpe. He will have more TDs than Jason Witten (currently at 52) in half the time.

    Just think about it a bit...

    SFIAH
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    Posted 06-09-2014 at 10:06 AM by SaintFanInATLHELL SaintFanInATLHELL is offline
 
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