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foreverfan 12-20-2010 01:37 PM

Conspiracy Theory (Pulled From TV) FEMA CAMPS - POLICE STATE
 
You've been warned.


CashAndFlash 12-20-2010 05:35 PM

They stole my TV!

Beastmode 12-20-2010 06:28 PM

Fact: He was never a Navy Seal and never saw combat in Vietnam. He needs to be prosecuted along with anyone else making false military service claims. It sickens me to the core.

foreverfan 12-20-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 271685)
Fact: He was never a Navy Seal and never saw combat in Vietnam. He needs to be prosecuted along with anyone else making false military service claims. It sickens me to the core.

Did you bother to watch the video? Disturbing.

CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 01:38 AM

Laughing at 1:08- yawning at 3:30- then when I went to post this my computer froze ... AAAAGGGHHHHHHHHH it's a giant conspiracy!

But seriously, Glenn Beck is smarter than this guy... which is like saying the guy who **** himself in the special olympics is faster than the guy who fell down and forgot how to stand up... Beck makes 33 million a year selling bs like this, and he doesn't even have to go anywhere, just sits in his studio and rambles...

CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 01:44 AM

oh and I voted for Ron paul.. but he's just an old kook.. other than some financial stuff he's totally nuts... but I'll keep watching...ok 5:08 and this is just getting retarded.. he acts like if he knows the words "fusion" and "subversive" he's "enlightened"...ok and highway patrol... NOT under homeland security... all we have so far is some boxes and your typical paranoid teenager... FF do you really watch this crap?

CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 01:49 AM

ok I am 8:14 and yes it's disturbing... it's disturbing that a bunch of aged homophobes are going on a cross-country paranoia spree because of some stuck-up teenager... you're not allowed to videotape on government ground without permission, and... **** it. this is retarded. I think you're just trying to get people to watch this as a joke. please tell me that's true... if I wanted to watch this fearmongering crap I'd just turn on CSI or something... the production values are a lot higher.

foreverfan 12-21-2010 07:17 AM

Glen Beck was going to expose this and he was told to shut up.

Did you watch the whole thing?

CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 271813)
Glen Beck was going to expose this and he was told to shut up.

Did you watch the whole thing?


I got to about 35:00 in FF... I honestly don't remember "learning" anything that I don't know... just Jesse Ventura standing over guys who weren't as tall as him and playing "gotcha"... which is effective for ratings, I guess, but as a rhetorical method not all that convincing...


I'll try to watch the rest... really... I grew up on 1984, Brave New World, (cat's cradle though it doesn't really apply), all that stuff...


and just in case you want to get scared about the young uns taking over and turning the US into a police state... I'll go ahead and impeach myself and say that sometimes I get a comforting "Big Brother" vibe from watching Obama's telecasts... it's theater to me.

but if you could point out what, at least in the first 35 minutes, you found so troubling, I'll try to address it... I've seen Ventura on Tv before... he just loses it when somebody fails to address him with the "respect he deserves"... all I saw was the same thing here... him telling cops in Texas that he was "Governor Jesse Ventura"... BS...you want to play that card, go do inspirational speeches or something, don't run around the country because "this could be your daughter" thinks the CIA is after her....


I actually knew a guy like that when I lived in Houston... claimed that the FBI was after him... that he'd found out from friends still living in Chicago where he was from... but he also wanted me to write a letter to a senator (he specified that he wanted him to be Democratic) to get castration legal so he could reverse his sin... .Sin of Ur or something, from the bible... believed that "God and Satan had formed a fusion event" over him for something or other... I'm only bringing this up because I have a feeling that Jesse Ventura either goes home and gets ****faced so he can bring
himself to do this show again, or rambles on endlessly like that guy.


You stated elsewhere on a thread that "everybody needs to be brought down a notch" at least once in their lives... I think Jesse Ventura is about 3 notches above the looney line.

CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 08:02 AM

Ok I just tried to watch it again... the "residential center" he visits... where is that? I can't make out the name, and everything I type into Google just comes back to Ventura.

foreverfan 12-21-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CashAndFlash (Post 271820)
I got to about 35:00 in FF... I honestly don't remember "learning" anything that I don't know... just Jesse Ventura standing over guys who weren't as tall as him and playing "gotcha"... which is effective for ratings, I guess, but as a rhetorical method not all that convincing...


I'll try to watch the rest... really... I grew up on 1984, Brave New World, (cat's cradle though it doesn't really apply), all that stuff...


and just in case you want to get scared about the young uns taking over and turning the US into a police state... I'll go ahead and impeach myself and say that sometimes I get a comforting "Big Brother" vibe from watching Obama's telecasts... it's theater to me.

but if you could point out what, at least in the first 35 minutes, you found so troubling, I'll try to address it... I've seen Ventura on Tv before... he just loses it when somebody fails to address him with the "respect he deserves"... all I saw was the same thing here... him telling cops in Texas that he was "Governor Jesse Ventura"... BS...you want to play that card, go do inspirational speeches or something, don't run around the country because "this could be your daughter" thinks the CIA is after her....


I actually knew a guy like that when I lived in Houston... claimed that the FBI was after him... that he'd found out from friends still living in Chicago where he was from... but he also wanted me to write a letter to a senator (he specified that he wanted him to be Democratic) to get castration legal so he could reverse his sin... .Sin of Ur or something, from the bible... believed that "God and Satan had formed a fusion event" over him for something or other... I'm only bringing this up because I have a feeling that Jesse Ventura either goes home and gets ****faced so he can bring
himself to do this show again, or rambles on endlessly like that guy.


You stated elsewhere on a thread that "everybody needs to be brought down a notch" at least once in their lives... I think Jesse Ventura is about 3 notches above the looney line.

Things are so much different now. Our economy is on the brink of disaster as the government prints money without nothing to back it up. The Chinese and Saudi's could stop lending us money at any time. Although this is unlikely in the short term it is very likely in the long term as we continue to devaluate our currency.

So what happens to society when the Chinese say "We no lend you anymore money"? Ask Beck that.


CashAndFlash 12-21-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 271879)
Things are so much different now. Our economy is on the brink of disaster as the government prints money without nothing to back it up. The Chinese and Saudi's could stop lending us money at any time. Although this is unlikely in the short term it is very likely in the long term as we continue to devaluate our currency.

So what happens to society when the Chinese say "We no lend you anymore money"? Ask Beck that.

YouTube - Glenn Beck-Greater Depression, economic collapse coming soon!

I'm not just trying to be argumentative... promise... but videos like that are why Glenn Beck is widely ridiculed...

he is basically saying we had MUCH less than 500 billion dollars in paper money before the 1960s... if I understand the video correctly... and that then we just started printing it like crazy? what's his source? And if he is saying that we literally just printed 5 trillion dollars... which I believe is his final assertion... where the hell is it? Is he really saying that we are trying to pay off our debts with literal paper money? (see my last paragraph before you react to this)


Let's say his 1960 figure was 100 billion dollars... there were 190 million people in the US at that time. That means that for every person, there were 526 paper dollars. If he is correct that there are 5 trillion in circulation today- again, the video never made it clear what he was actually talking about... then that's $16,000 dollars per person.

I know the whole theory of the gold standard and all... but there is no such thing anymore. Every nation in the world relies on a fiat currency today.

I don't believe that the US has had a zero deficit for some time now, definitely not in any of our lifetimes...I'm pretty sure that the last time we had zero debt was after WWI, and then it ballooned during WWII and went down, only to shoot back up during the Cold War with a final spike under Reagan....

Seriously, I understand the point of Beck's rhetoric. I grew up in a very Republican household and went to Jesuit, where 82% of people (myself included) voted Bush in a 2000 mock election. But the more I look at the numbers being presented by the right, the more fudging I see... it's an easy sell... "don't borrow more than you can pay".... but the intricacies of International Finance are much, much more complex than that...this whole country was built on debt that took years to pay off. Debt is what drives private industry; without it, there are no capital improvements, no new companies, etc.


Do I realize that we may be coming to a point where we have to devalue our currency in order to pay off our debts? Yes. But I still think Beck et al's rhetoric is bombastic and does a disservice to the people who he's trying to persuade. That's my issue with the Tea party, the palin lovers... all those people. We already tried the "aw, shucks" schtick with Bush, and not only did the economy grow less than it did under Clinton, the Census... just released today... showed that it was the second-slowest decade of growth since 1910. To me, it's the equivalent of saying "just put some oil in it" when you're dealing with a computer.

pherein 12-21-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 271695)
Did you bother to watch the video? Disturbing.

WE will deal with you shortly foreverfan:)

Beastmode 12-29-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 271695)
Did you bother to watch the video? Disturbing.

I watched it. Did you not hear him say he was a Navy Seal and knows about fighting. Wrestling is not fighting and he never saw combat. Again, he is not a Navy Seal. The fact that he keeps making this claim is disturbing me to the point I want to take my Bronze Star and Purple Heart and gash his eyeballs out.

The thing about the caskets is retarded. What do you want to do with the bodies if there is a major disaster like another killer storm or earthquake, dump them all in a big pit like every other 3rd world country. Some of it was interesting but take out the scary music and do some real investigation and get others involved to ask the right people the right questions instead of parading around like some special forces investigators.

CashAndFlash 12-29-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 274544)
I watched it. Did you not hear him say he was a Navy Seal and knows about fighting. Wrestling is not fighting and he never saw combat. Again, he is not a Navy Seal. The fact that he keeps making this claim is disturbing me to the point I want to take my Bronze Star and Purple Heart and gash his eyeballs out.

The thing about the caskets is retarded. What do you want to do with the bodies if there is a major disaster like another killer storm or earthquake, dump them all in a big pit like every other 3rd world country. Some of it was interesting but take out the scary music and do some real investigation and get others involved to ask the right people the right questions instead of parading around like some special forces investigators.

basically my thoughts beast. he's about one step behind the tea party crowd with this stuff... and since those dudes are basically 50 years behind the rest of the country, he's got a LOT of catching up to do.


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