UFOs you learn something everyday

foreverfan · 12-31-2010, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Ive hear of Zecharia Sitchin. I think the problem most have with his theories are they are completely unprovable. Most don't truly understand archeologist. Im a amateur, but we don't use theories like physics do.

IF there is no proof it didn't happen. Most of us are well versed on the sumerian culture, and I think they spell it wrong in the video if im correct.

Archeologist want the holy gail to be true, and want to find a link to what these people make up from pictures, but we don't believe it until its proven. Where are the mechanisms or logic to sustain this type of thinning. And, as we always think, why do people always put themselves down , and not believe they were smart enough to do this?

If the sumerians where so advanced why didnt we find an ipod with the text instead a clay tablet? Because they were probably not.

The other problem with being an Archeologist is you cant dispute the possibility either.
Dinosaurs were on the earth for 158 million years, humans for roughly 100,000. Who to say a civilization did not flurish during that period. Plastic degrades in 50,000 years, there would be nothing left of it. Even if it covered the earth. Food for thought.

In any court of law after a proponderance of the evidence shows that man was visited by others and show/helped in making the megalitic structures we see today.

You want to hear something that will totally blow you mine, listen to David Wilc?ck. He's one of the talking heads on the Ancient Aliens series on the History Channel.

pherein · 12-31-2010, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

In any court of law after a proponderance of the evidence shows that man was visited by others and show/helped in making the megalitic structures we see today.

You want to hear something that will totally blow you mine, listen to David Wilc?ck. He's one of the talking heads on the Ancient Aliens series on the History Channel.

There is zero evidence that we have been visited, unless you consider a talk show or movies proof, which we don't. There is zero evidence that jesus existed also.

We need something better, dont you think? The Bell makes sense, because its been proven and explains why we see them.

As a simple point explain to me why a alien culture would fold space to come here and make a pyramid? I mean why? We wouldn't.

CashAndFlash · 01-01-2011, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

There is zero evidence that we have been visited, unless you consider a talk show or movies proof, which we don't. There is zero evidence that jesus existed also.

We need something better, dont you think? The Bell makes sense, because its been proven and explains why we see them.

As a simple point explain to me why a alien culture would fold space to come here and make a pyramid? I mean why? We wouldn't.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been official records found of a man named Jesus being hung in Jerusalem?

I mean, the Roman Empire kept records of executions.

Granted, though, I think the actual Hebrew spelling of Jesus was Yeshua- which I believe translates to Joshua.

pherein · 01-01-2011, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by CashAndFlash

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been official records found of a man named Jesus being hung in Jerusalem?

I mean, the Roman Empire kept records of executions.

Granted, though, I think the actual Hebrew spelling of Jesus was Yeshua- which I believe translates to Joshua.

The Roman Empire did keep incredible records, that is what makes it so odd. There are plenty of recorded accounts of Pontius Pilate, but non of Jesus. And no one can find any record of nazareth either. Its kind of hard to lose a city.

In fact The book of Marc, the 1st stories of Jesus, could not have been written by him, they were written 150-300 years after Jesus death. Most scholars believe none of the books were actually written by the disciples.

Did Jesus exist?

Only two of the canonical Gospels, Matthew and John, are alleged by tradition to have been written by eyewitnesses .

First of all, I should say that none of the four canonical Gospels names its own author, none of them claim to be eywitness accounts or even to have spoken to eyewitness of Jesus. All are written in the third person and none of the authors tell us anything about themselves. All of the traditional ascriptions of authorship come from 2nd century tradition.

Why do people say jesus of nazareth was not real? - Yahoo! Answers

Dont get me wrong, I believe in God, this is just my historical side talking. As soon as someone says " I have faith" they should be excused from the room.
Faith has nothing to do with writing history based on facts, records, and hard archeological work. We would love to find something, we just haven't.

12-31-2010, 06:39 PM	#11
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by pherein Ive hear of Zecharia Sitchin. I think the problem most have with his theories are they are completely unprovable. Most don't truly understand archeologist. Im a amateur, but we don't use theories like physics do. IF there is no proof it didn't happen. Most of us are well versed on the sumerian culture, and I think they spell it wrong in the video if im correct. Archeologist want the holy gail to be true, and want to find a link to what these people make up from pictures, but we don't believe it until its proven. Where are the mechanisms or logic to sustain this type of thinning. And, as we always think, why do people always put themselves down , and not believe they were smart enough to do this? If the sumerians where so advanced why didnt we find an ipod with the text instead a clay tablet? Because they were probably not. The other problem with being an Archeologist is you cant dispute the possibility either. Dinosaurs were on the earth for 158 million years, humans for roughly 100,000. Who to say a civilization did not flurish during that period. Plastic degrades in 50,000 years, there would be nothing left of it. Even if it covered the earth. Food for thought. In any court of law after a proponderance of the evidence shows that man was visited by others and show/helped in making the megalitic structures we see today. You want to hear something that will totally blow you mine, listen to David Wilc?ck. He's one of the talking heads on the Ancient Aliens series on the History Channel.

12-31-2010, 07:53 PM	#12
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by foreverfan In any court of law after a proponderance of the evidence shows that man was visited by others and show/helped in making the megalitic structures we see today. You want to hear something that will totally blow you mine, listen to David Wilc?ck. He's one of the talking heads on the Ancient Aliens series on the History Channel. There is zero evidence that we have been visited, unless you consider a talk show or movies proof, which we don't. There is zero evidence that jesus existed also. We need something better, dont you think? The Bell makes sense, because its been proven and explains why we see them. As a simple point explain to me why a alien culture would fold space to come here and make a pyramid? I mean why? We wouldn't.

01-01-2011, 07:16 AM	#13
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by pherein There is zero evidence that we have been visited, unless you consider a talk show or movies proof, which we don't. There is zero evidence that jesus existed also. We need something better, dont you think? The Bell makes sense, because its been proven and explains why we see them. As a simple point explain to me why a alien culture would fold space to come here and make a pyramid? I mean why? We wouldn't. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been official records found of a man named Jesus being hung in Jerusalem? I mean, the Roman Empire kept records of executions. Granted, though, I think the actual Hebrew spelling of Jesus was Yeshua- which I believe translates to Joshua.

01-01-2011, 08:35 PM	#14
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by CashAndFlash Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been official records found of a man named Jesus being hung in Jerusalem? I mean, the Roman Empire kept records of executions. Granted, though, I think the actual Hebrew spelling of Jesus was Yeshua- which I believe translates to Joshua. The Roman Empire did keep incredible records, that is what makes it so odd. There are plenty of recorded accounts of Pontius Pilate, but non of Jesus. And no one can find any record of nazareth either. Its kind of hard to lose a city. In fact The book of Marc, the 1st stories of Jesus, could not have been written by him, they were written 150-300 years after Jesus death. Most scholars believe none of the books were actually written by the disciples. Did Jesus exist? Only two of the canonical Gospels, Matthew and John, are alleged by tradition to have been written by eyewitnesses . First of all, I should say that none of the four canonical Gospels names its own author, none of them claim to be eywitness accounts or even to have spoken to eyewitness of Jesus. All are written in the third person and none of the authors tell us anything about themselves. All of the traditional ascriptions of authorship come from 2nd century tradition. Why do people say jesus of nazareth was not real? - Yahoo! Answers Dont get me wrong, I believe in God, this is just my historical side talking. As soon as someone says " I have faith" they should be excused from the room. Faith has nothing to do with writing history based on facts, records, and hard archeological work. We would love to find something, we just haven't.
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