The Firing Pin (Gun thread)

TheOak · 07-22-2013, 07:11 AM

"Safety" in regards to personal safety and home security for this weapon is moot.

1 to 1.7 miles of clear flight path or line of sight is not easy to come by in an urban environment.. You would literally have to sit on a stretch of highway and that makes this weapon irrelevant as the system does not compensate for movement of a target.

The most lethal home security weapon is 12ga buck shot... That requires no training either.

Danno · 07-22-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

"Safety" in regards to personal safety and home security for this weapon is moot.

1 to 1.7 miles of clear flight path or line of sight is not easy to come by in an urban environment.. You would literally have to sit on a stretch of highway and that makes this weapon irrelevant as the system does not compensate for movement of a target.

The most lethal home security weapon is 12ga buck shot... That requires no training either.

Oak (and others)...Whats your opinion on these for home security?

TheOak · 07-22-2013, 08:41 AM

Depends on the shooter experience and the spread of the shot.... With a shot gun I have about a 3 foot pattern at 30 yards (my fire place to front door) depending on the choke. If the pattern on the Judge starts to open too soon I don't see it as being as effective at that distance.

There is no hammer to pull to the rear on a shotgun either.

A pistol still has to be aimed somewhat, a shotgun just needs to be pointed from the hip.

12 ga shotgun with this mount will have a tac-light to blind the intruder and a red dot laser so you can't miss.

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dam1953 · 07-22-2013, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Depends on the shooter experience and the spread of the shot.... With a shot gun I have about a 3 foot pattern at 30 yards (my fire place to front door) depending on the choke. If the pattern on the Judge starts to open too soon I don't see it as being as effective at that distance.

There is no hammer to pull to the rear on a shotgun either.

A pistol still has to be aimed somewhat, a shotgun just needs to be pointed from the hip.

12 ga shotgun with this mount will have a tac-light to blind the intruder and a red dot laser so you can't miss. Attachment 7378

Dude, how big is your damn house? "30 yards (my fire place to front door)"

TheOak · 07-22-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Dude, how big is your damn house? "30 yards (my fire place to front door)"

3k feet, open floor plan.

dam1953 · 07-22-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

3k feet, open floor plan.

Very open, I would say.

Up here in the Cinci area I live on a bit over half-acre and it about 30 yards from my deck to the back fence. Makes it easy for dotting the "i" on a number of varmints with my Benjamin Marauder .25 cal PCP without upsetting neighbors.

TheOak · 07-22-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Very open, I would say.

Up here in the Cinci area I live on a bit over half-acre and it about 30 yards from my deck to the back fence. Makes it easy for dotting the "i" on a number of varmints with my Benjamin Marauder .25 cal PCP without upsetting neighbors.

Rabbits kill my grass.... Ive considered my pellet gun but my daughters would dis own me.

dam1953 · 07-22-2013, 03:10 PM

Thumper hasn't bothered too much...yet. My problems have been with squirrels, possums and raccoons, but mostly deer. Damn deer wreck havoc on landscaping up here.

I pop 'em in the butt hoping they will go away and stay away. Hasn't worked yet. I could probably drop them with the BM .25 but they would probably run and die in the neighbor's yard, which wouldn't be good. The deer are so bad up here that many areas have controlled hunts (bow only) within in the city limits.

TheOak · 07-22-2013, 05:54 PM

We have had droughts the last few years so rabbits kill grass on both ends, what they do not eat they piss and crap on and that dies as well. I let my bulldog outside thinking he will run them off, I come out to find the rabbits eating my grass and my bulldog eating the handles on my pool pumps.

I give up

fergo · 07-23-2013, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

We have had droughts the last few years so rabbits kill grass on both ends, what they do not eat they piss and crap on and that dies as well. I let my bulldog outside thinking he will run them off, I come out to find the rabbits eating my grass and my bulldog eating the handles on my pool pumps.

I give up

You've got dogs like mine, my boxer and bulldog will chase each other around the garden but just stop dead and stare at anything else in it.

07-22-2013, 07:11 AM	#41
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) "Safety" in regards to personal safety and home security for this weapon is moot. 1 to 1.7 miles of clear flight path or line of sight is not easy to come by in an urban environment.. You would literally have to sit on a stretch of highway and that makes this weapon irrelevant as the system does not compensate for movement of a target. The most lethal home security weapon is 12ga buck shot... That requires no training either.

07-22-2013, 08:19 AM	#42
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by TheOak "Safety" in regards to personal safety and home security for this weapon is moot. 1 to 1.7 miles of clear flight path or line of sight is not easy to come by in an urban environment.. You would literally have to sit on a stretch of highway and that makes this weapon irrelevant as the system does not compensate for movement of a target. The most lethal home security weapon is 12ga buck shot... That requires no training either. Oak (and others)...Whats your opinion on these for home security?

07-22-2013, 08:41 AM	#43
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Depends on the shooter experience and the spread of the shot.... With a shot gun I have about a 3 foot pattern at 30 yards (my fire place to front door) depending on the choke. If the pattern on the Judge starts to open too soon I don't see it as being as effective at that distance. There is no hammer to pull to the rear on a shotgun either. A pistol still has to be aimed somewhat, a shotgun just needs to be pointed from the hip. 12 ga shotgun with this mount will have a tac-light to blind the intruder and a red dot laser so you can't miss.
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07-22-2013, 02:37 PM	#44
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by TheOak Depends on the shooter experience and the spread of the shot.... With a shot gun I have about a 3 foot pattern at 30 yards (my fire place to front door) depending on the choke. If the pattern on the Judge starts to open too soon I don't see it as being as effective at that distance. There is no hammer to pull to the rear on a shotgun either. A pistol still has to be aimed somewhat, a shotgun just needs to be pointed from the hip. 12 ga shotgun with this mount will have a tac-light to blind the intruder and a red dot laser so you can't miss. Attachment 7378 Dude, how big is your damn house? "30 yards (my fire place to front door)"

07-22-2013, 02:38 PM	#45
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by dam1953 Dude, how big is your damn house? "30 yards (my fire place to front door)" 3k feet, open floor plan.

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07-22-2013, 02:45 PM	#46
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by TheOak 3k feet, open floor plan. Very open, I would say. Up here in the Cinci area I live on a bit over half-acre and it about 30 yards from my deck to the back fence. Makes it easy for dotting the "i" on a number of varmints with my Benjamin Marauder .25 cal PCP without upsetting neighbors.

07-22-2013, 02:48 PM	#47
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by dam1953 Very open, I would say. Up here in the Cinci area I live on a bit over half-acre and it about 30 yards from my deck to the back fence. Makes it easy for dotting the "i" on a number of varmints with my Benjamin Marauder .25 cal PCP without upsetting neighbors. Rabbits kill my grass.... Ive considered my pellet gun but my daughters would dis own me.

07-22-2013, 03:10 PM	#48
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Thumper hasn't bothered too much...yet. My problems have been with squirrels, possums and raccoons, but mostly deer. Damn deer wreck havoc on landscaping up here. I pop 'em in the butt hoping they will go away and stay away. Hasn't worked yet. I could probably drop them with the BM .25 but they would probably run and die in the neighbor's yard, which wouldn't be good. The deer are so bad up here that many areas have controlled hunts (bow only) within in the city limits.

07-22-2013, 05:54 PM	#49
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) We have had droughts the last few years so rabbits kill grass on both ends, what they do not eat they piss and crap on and that dies as well. I let my bulldog outside thinking he will run them off, I come out to find the rabbits eating my grass and my bulldog eating the handles on my pool pumps. I give up dam1953 likes this.

07-23-2013, 04:07 PM	#50
fergo Registered Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Leven, Fife, Scotland Posts: 35	Re: The Firing Pin (Gun thread) Originally Posted by TheOak We have had droughts the last few years so rabbits kill grass on both ends, what they do not eat they piss and crap on and that dies as well. I let my bulldog outside thinking he will run them off, I come out to find the rabbits eating my grass and my bulldog eating the handles on my pool pumps. I give up You've got dogs like mine, my boxer and bulldog will chase each other around the garden but just stop dead and stare at anything else in it. TheOak likes this.