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D_it_up 01-27-2013 12:02 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
It's not up to us to make you believe it. That is something you are going to have to learn on your own by doing simple research. It's not just this video of "experts" that is calling BS on our government. There are SEVERAL videos of evidence out there with eye-witness accounts and other information from the WTC and the Pentagon on 9-11. Take some time and watch them for yourself before you just blow off the entire idea that there was a conspiracy and that the government and media reports are 100% accurate. FF and I have done a lot of our own research. That is why we believe the way we do. Things just DO NOT add up. One thing I've noticed about media and government reports is that they are horrible at keeping their stories straight and tying up loose ends for their cover-ups. The 9-11 Commission was a complete joke. We don't necessarily expect you to believe us, either, but I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you will dig up.

D_it_up 01-27-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 475268)
Hey Do_It_Up... some people love to be programmed by TV and are to lazy to do any real research on others opinions. You love history... did you see this yet? This is an incredible prespective on American History not taught in our schools.

1932, A True History of the United States - YouTube

I watched this almost immediately after I saw you had posted this, ff. It just confirms my idea that the British monarchy and government has been behind a lot of the world's troubles. They are huge players in every war, US Presidency, and just outright bullying of the smaller nations in the world to ensure their dominance. Once we became their allies, that pretty much screwed the United States. "God Save the Queen", my ass.

WhoDat!656 01-27-2013 05:20 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 475622)
It's not up to us to make you believe it. That is something you are going to have to learn on your own by doing simple research. It's not just this video of "experts" that is calling BS on our government. There are SEVERAL videos of evidence out there with eye-witness accounts and other information from the WTC and the Pentagon on 9-11. Take some time and watch them for yourself before you just blow off the entire idea that there was a conspiracy and that the government and media reports are 100% accurate. FF and I have done a lot of our own research. That is why we believe the way we do. Things just DO NOT add up. One thing I've noticed about media and government reports is that they are horrible at keeping their stories straight and tying up loose ends for their cover-ups. The 9-11 Commission was a complete joke. We don't necessarily expect you to believe us, either, but I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you will dig up.

I have seen some of these videos.

One of them said that the American Airlines plane the government said hit the Pentagon couldn't have caused that much damage, even though there is video if it striking the Pentagon and there was aircraft wreckage on the Pentagon grounds.

or the one that said Flt 93 couldn't have crashed where the government said it did because a person saw the plane flying over a lake at a specific time. The conspiracy theorists said that the plane couldn't have gotten from the lake to the crash site in that time. Of course they failed to mention that this 'conclusion' was based on the time it took a car to drive the distance and not a jet flying 300+ mph.

or the 'experts' that said that the Towers couldn't have collasped without detonation because there wasnt enough time for the steel beams in the towers to melt from the heat of the fires started from the planes crashing into them. Even though, A: the government didnt say the beams melted, and B: it has been proven that the heat from a fire similar to the WTC can produce enough heat to weaken steel beams to the point that they fail.

Here is a novel concept for you and D it Up to consider: Sometimes 2 + 2 does equal 4 and sometimes things do happen they way they appear! But I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you dig up.

foreverfan 01-27-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 475705)
I have seen some of these videos.

WhoDat... thanks for hanging around and giving your share of the discussion.

One of them said that the American Airlines plane the government said hit the Pentagon couldn't have caused that much damage, even though there is video if it striking the Pentagon and there was aircraft wreckage on the Pentagon grounds.

or the one that said Flt 93 couldn't have crashed where the government said it did because a person saw the plane flying over a lake at a specific time. The conspiracy theorists said that the plane couldn't have gotten from the lake to the crash site in that time. Of course they failed to mention that this 'conclusion' was based on the time it took a car to drive the distance and not a jet flying 300+ mph.

or the 'experts' that said that the Towers couldn't have collasped without detonation because there wasnt enough time for the steel beams in the towers to melt from the heat of the fires started from the planes crashing into them. Even though, A: the government didnt say the beams melted, and B: it has been proven that the heat from a fire similar to the WTC can produce enough heat to weaken steel beams to the point that they fail.

Here is a novel concept for you and D it Up to consider: Sometimes 2 + 2 does equal 4 and sometimes things do happen they way they appear! But I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you dig up.

So you don't agree with a few points and immediately throw our all the rest? You have to play the game for 4 quarters to get the full story.

One trick the powers that be use is to present something totally false and easily proved false and call it a conspiracy theory. Then foolish people see that something is obviously fake and think that the whole thing must be one giant conspiracy theory.

:rolleyes:

Can anybody tell me what was in the chemical trails over the city of New Orleans for the past few days? Disturbing. :confused:

foreverfan 01-27-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 475625)
I watched this almost immediately after I saw you had posted this, ff. It just confirms my idea that the British monarchy and government has been behind a lot of the world's troubles. They are huge players in every war, US Presidency, and just outright bullying of the smaller nations in the world to ensure their dominance. Once we became their allies, that pretty much screwed the United States. "God Save the Queen", my ass.

Incredible spin on history huh? You can see how the British banking system forced the USA hand and the result was the Federal Reserve Bank....

Did you know that the Federal Reserve Bank isn't "Federal" (they are a private bank), they certainty have no Reserves. They print the money backed by NOTHING except a promise to pay the interest by the US Tax Payer. It's a GIANT ponzi scheme. :mad:

WhoDat!656 01-27-2013 09:13 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 475743)
So you don't agree with a few points and immediately throw our all the rest? You have to play the game for 4 quarters to get the full story.

One trick the powers that be use is to present something totally false and easily proved false and call it a conspiracy theory. Then foolish people see that something is obviously fake and think that the whole thing must be one giant conspiracy theory.

:rolleyes:

Can anybody tell me what was in the chemical trails over the city of New Orleans for the past few days? Disturbing. :confused:

My wife believes they are contrails from the government spraying the flu virus trying to kill people and reduce the population.

WhoDat!656 01-27-2013 09:17 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 475743)
So you don't agree with a few points and immediately throw our all the rest? You have to play the game for 4 quarters to get the full story.

One trick the powers that be use is to present something totally false and easily proved false and call it a conspiracy theory. Then foolish people see that something is obviously fake and think that the whole thing must be one giant conspiracy theory.

:rolleyes:

Can anybody tell me what was in the chemical trails over the city of New Orleans for the past few days? Disturbing. :confused:

Isn't that exactly what you are doing?

You don't believe part or all of what the government said about 911 so you are discrediting everything they say!

D_it_up 01-27-2013 09:38 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 475745)
Incredible spin on history huh? You can see how the British banking system forced the USA hand and the result was the Federal Reserve Bank....

Did you know that the Federal Reserve Bank isn't "Federal" (they are a private bank), they certainty have no Reserves. They print the money backed by NOTHING except a promise to pay the interest by the US Tax Payer. It's a GIANT ponzi scheme. :mad:

Yes, I was aware of that. I am registered Libertarian and one of our major stances is to be rid of the Fed. I don't know if you have seen any of the Zeitgeist movies, but they are pretty incredible in their own right.

foreverfan 01-27-2013 10:13 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 475746)
My wife believes they are contrails from the government spraying the flu virus trying to kill people and reduce the population.

LOL... Who knows?

Research indicates that the trails are part of a geoengineering program that may already be in its initial implementation phase.

Scientists at the Carnegie Institution are using taxpayer money to lay the groundwork for injecting the atmosphere with materials they believe will artificially cool the planet, in a bid to stave off what we are told is modern civilization’s greatest threat to date, anthropogenic global warming.

Even if you buy into the as yet unproven theory that human produced carbon emissions are voluminous enough to significantly alter the planet’s climate, you should still be extremely wary. Playing God with the atmosphere may have severe consequences, particularly given that the compounds these scientists are testing are known to cause debilitating health problems and could lead to massive droughts and famines.

Based around the madcap method of “injecting aerosols of sulfate into the stratosphere” to produce “a global sunshade,” researchers at the Carnegie Institution’s Department of Global Ecology have been running advanced trials on how to distribute artificially added sulfates to the atmosphere in the name of cooling the planet.

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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 475752)
Yes, I was aware of that. I am registered Libertarian and one of our major stances is to be rid of the Fed. I don't know if you have seen any of the Zeitgeist movies, but they are pretty incredible in their own right.

I've watched a few of the Zeitgeist stuff. Politically I'm a political atheists since there is enough BS spewed daily by both parties. Our 2 party system is 2 sides of the same evil coin which is all about creating debt and putting the Taxpayer on the hook for the interest. It is destine to fail. This is why TPTB want to take our guns. No conspiracy... just reality.

foreverfan 01-27-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes...
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 475748)
Isn't that exactly what you are doing?

You don't believe part or all of what the government said about 911 so you are discrediting everything they say!

Not exactly... I just ask people to consider that the story that the "Powers That Be" has presented is complete BS as presented by the people who's expert opinion would easily land you in jail if the information was presented against you. Too bad I don't own the media to spew the official BS story of the day.


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