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foreverfan 02-18-2013 10:24 PM

More Sandy Hook... No Answers to Case Problems
 
Key Notes from Interview

~ Adam Lanza very likely never existed ( can't find anything on him, can find lots on his brother)

~ the "Mother" stories change constantly, she worked for Chase Morgan,

~ 3 employees from GE financial have been tried & convicted in connection with the LIBOR scandal (Co workers of Peter Lanza (alleged "father") so there is a tentative connection) the father was not included

~ Nancy's obituary did not mention adam (everyone else was listed)

~Adam Lanza Motive: non-existent...

~only one call to the police for the incident. (from staff member that "believes" they are hearing gun shots) no evidence that any other calls to the police came in, despite the "hundreds" of rounds fired, front entry way being broken into (questionable).

~ Gun shots (reported in the hundreds) of the type of rifle in an enclosed area would cause severe distortion, the shooter would loose balance & possibly collapse from the 165+ decibel reports (hundreds of them) from the carbine rifle (you can infer from this that many more injuries would exist) possibly resulting in unconsciousness.

~Adam was "home schooled" but has none of the typical documents that exist for home schooling, there is no documentation that he ever was home schooled & Adam Lanza has no connection to Sandy Hook elementary at all.

~the weight of the rounds & equipment that Adam was reported to have (he was allegedly 120lbs) would have been carrying 120lbs in equipment ( or more, hard to pin that down though because they have said so many different weapons were present)

~The front of the school, all glass is in-tact (he didn't break into the school as reported)`

~school entry is secured by camera's & entry is enforced by it, no video has been shown, glass front windows & doors should have been nearly impenetrable by a 120lb assailant

~School teachers did not evacuate kids when they heard shooting; no children were pushed out the windows & told to run to the VERY close fire station.

~Christipher rodes car (sp?) held the tactical shot gun (NOT AR-15) that was extracted on film (correctly identified & not cross talk on the police scanner tapes) 4 completely bio/chemical/full MOPP gear wearing individiduals were standing around the trunk when the shot gun was extracted (Raw 'chopper footage).

~ALLEGEDLY a bushmaster is the weapon used in the shootings, first reporting was 2 hand guns found inside bushmaster was found in a trunk, one day later the bush master was "found inside". of the two hand guns the glock 10mm is a Large frame commonly used Law Enforcement weapon (not typical for a woman to purchase).

~ It was reported that Adam & his mother had been to gun ranges to practice quite often, however reporters could not find any witnesses that recall either of them ever showing up at any ranges.

~Accuracy of the shootings (11 shots in some very small framed victims) was far too high for a novice shooter.

~connecticut has an ASSAULT WEAPONS ban in place, yet it is reported that Nancy Lanza had "legally" registered all these guns (to include the AR-15 which is BANNED in Connecticut)

~Mr Rosen (.1 miles away) would not have been able to hear the gun fire & if he DID hear it why did he NOT call the police?

~AR-15's like the one reported to allegedly be used by "Adam lanza" would have had several "jams" or "stoppages" with hundreds of rounds fired due to the unreliability of an un-tuned weapon like this; also you need to be trained in S.P.O.R.T.S. (corrective actions) to quickly fix weapon jams.

~Robbie parker is brought up (strange stage actor methods used & false emotion seemingly used), where was "mrs parker", why would the rest of the family be abandoned, the "dead daughter" that was stolen from flicker is brought up as well (she's alive and her mother is pissed her picture is used).

~Response time was 7 min, there was not enough time (7 min, from entry to police arrival) to do what was said was done.

~entire scene was cleared in less than an hour, not reasonable either.

~school nurse is not even licensed in the state of Connecticut.

~None of the professionals interviewed actually hold any real certification or licenses (the nurse, the "psychologist" that found the 6 children, none of them).

~questions: redish purple van with window shot out, where is it... Nuns where did they go?

~the media has issued NO retractions regardless of the many contradictions

~School is being destroyed / demolished (evidence cover up)

~ Law enforcement officers were "assigned" to the families (Never been done in this type of situation before) a highly suspect action.

~Multiple “suspicious” deaths of high profile gun advocates followed Sandy Hook. P



Interview Starts Around: 8:15



WhoDat!656 02-18-2013 11:33 PM

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So you believe that the US Government &/or the anti-gun crowd 'hired' someone to go into Sandy Hook Elementary and kill children?

It just don't pass the smell test to me.

Who would agree to something like that?

How would you even bring the subject up?

Even if 'someone' agreed to massacre those children, the only way to guarantee that monster never talked would be to kill him also.

You posted you cant find anything about Adam Lanza. I entered his name in Bing and there are pages about him, although some are duplicates.

Adam Lanza motive non-existent: One possible theory is he wanted to top the Norwegian serial killer that murdered over 70 children in 2011.

Adam Lanza wanted to kill more people than Anders Breivik: report | The Raw Story

~ Nancy's obituary did not mention adam (everyone else was listed)

So what's your point? Ted Bundy's mother recently died and I doubt her obit mentioned her son was a mass murderer.

~the media has issued NO retractions regardless of the many contradictions

Media has also issued no retractions/stories about the obvious falseness of Obama's birth certificate.

~Response time was 7 min, there was not enough time (7 min, from entry to police arrival) to do what was said was done.

Classrooms in schools are not that far apart. The children would have been confined in a relatively small space; unlike if they were at recess or leaving school, or otherwise spread out and have the room to run when the shooting started.

~AR-15's like the one reported to allegedly be used by "Adam lanza" would have had several "jams" or "stoppages" with hundreds of rounds fired due to the unreliability of an un-tuned weapon like this; also you need to be trained in S.P.O.R.T.S. (corrective actions) to quickly fix weapon jams.

Video: Immediately Clearing a Jam in an AR-15 Rifle | eHow.com

~school nurse is not even licensed in the state of Connecticut.

Not sure how this fits into the conspiracy

~School is being destroyed / demolished (evidence cover up)

Decision has not been made on whether to demolish school

Memorial or demolition? Newtown weighs fate of Sandy Hook Elementary after massacre | Fox News

foreverfan 02-20-2013 12:12 AM

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This was posted from another website and are not my words. This was a review of the things presented in the video. I just post it because it paints another point of view. :mad:

A lot of people believe that Sandy Hook is a "False Flag" event to have a valid reason to take away our guns. We shall see.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6058501376/hEC63CFEF/

WhoDat!656 02-20-2013 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 480794)
This was posted from another website and are not my words. This was a review of the things presented in the video. I just post it because it paints another point of view. :mad:

A lot of people believe that Sandy Hook is a "False Flag" event to have a valid reason to take away our guns. We shall see.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6058501376/hEC63CFEF/

I agree that the government is trying to use Sandy Hook as a reason to take away guns from citizens.

I just don't believe Sandy Hook was a government run operation.

foreverfan 02-20-2013 09:20 PM

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http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...dle/332665.jpg

TheOak 02-21-2013 06:25 AM

There is no Sandy Hook Elementary or New Jersey.

burningmetal 02-24-2013 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 480579)
So you believe that the US Government &/or the anti-gun crowd 'hired' someone to go into Sandy Hook Elementary and kill children?

It just don't pass the smell test to me.

Who would agree to something like that?

How would you even bring the subject up?

Even if 'someone' agreed to massacre those children, the only way to guarantee that monster never talked would be to kill him also.

You posted you cant find anything about Adam Lanza. I entered his name in Bing and there are pages about him, although some are duplicates.

Adam Lanza motive non-existent: One possible theory is he wanted to top the Norwegian serial killer that murdered over 70 children in 2011.

Adam Lanza wanted to kill more people than Anders Breivik: report | The Raw Story

~ Nancy's obituary did not mention adam (everyone else was listed)

So what's your point? Ted Bundy's mother recently died and I doubt her obit mentioned her son was a mass murderer.

~the media has issued NO retractions regardless of the many contradictions

Media has also issued no retractions/stories about the obvious falseness of Obama's birth certificate.

~Response time was 7 min, there was not enough time (7 min, from entry to police arrival) to do what was said was done.

Classrooms in schools are not that far apart. The children would have been confined in a relatively small space; unlike if they were at recess or leaving school, or otherwise spread out and have the room to run when the shooting started.

~AR-15's like the one reported to allegedly be used by "Adam lanza" would have had several "jams" or "stoppages" with hundreds of rounds fired due to the unreliability of an un-tuned weapon like this; also you need to be trained in S.P.O.R.T.S. (corrective actions) to quickly fix weapon jams.

Video: Immediately Clearing a Jam in an AR-15 Rifle | eHow.com

~school nurse is not even licensed in the state of Connecticut.

Not sure how this fits into the conspiracy

~School is being destroyed / demolished (evidence cover up)

Decision has not been made on whether to demolish school

Memorial or demolition? Newtown weighs fate of Sandy Hook Elementary after massacre | Fox News

Personally, I don't believe anyone was hired to kill anyone. I have strong reason to believe that the whole thing never happened, period. I assumed everyone else was getting that, or at least understood that was the point of all the questions that have been raised.

There is no evidence whatsoever, of anything that has been reported. Not one single thing. My belief is that it was a government run hoax.

This is not your father's United States government, and it's not my father's either. This is an evil organization. There are certainly ways to accomplish this hoax. They could have paid these people to act, and threatened any number of punishments, should they attempt to leak information.

You might have people in that community, who were not involved in the operation, who have questioned the story, but whom have been disregarded by the media puppets. And let's be realistic... The media IS a puppet show. They are far more concerned with pushing liberal agenda, than reporting actual news.

I've never in my life questioned the validity of anything like this. I never really had reason to. Sure, you might have some deception, a little stretching of the truth, but you could plainly see that the event happened. Be it 9/11, Columbine, Virginia Tech or any kind of huge tragic event. But with this Sandy Hook story, I haven't seen anything to make me believe it. And when someone brings up the lack of information, they are met with another question: "How can you say that?"

If they'd answer OUR questions, we wouldn't have to wonder.

WhoDat!656 02-24-2013 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 481661)
Personally, I don't believe anyone was hired to kill anyone. I have strong reason to believe that the whole thing never happened, period. I assumed everyone else was getting that, or at least understood that was the point of all the questions that have been raised.

There is no evidence whatsoever, of anything that has been reported. Not one single thing. My belief is that it was a government run hoax.

This is not your father's United States government, and it's not my father's either. This is an evil organization. There are certainly ways to accomplish this hoax. They could have paid these people to act, and threatened any number of punishments, should they attempt to leak information.

You might have people in that community, who were not involved in the operation, who have questioned the story, but whom have been disregarded by the media puppets. And let's be realistic... The media IS a puppet show. They are far more concerned with pushing liberal agenda, than reporting actual news.

I've never in my life questioned the validity of anything like this. I never really had reason to. Sure, you might have some deception, a little stretching of the truth, but you could plainly see that the event happened. Be it 9/11, Columbine, Virginia Tech or any kind of huge tragic event. But with this Sandy Hook story, I haven't seen anything to make me believe it. And when someone brings up the lack of information, they are met with another question: "How can you say that?"

If they'd answer OUR questions, we wouldn't have to wonder.

You really believe nothing happened at Sandy Hook?

So there were 20+ fake funerals?

Where are the children & teachers that werent killed? I know! They are with the fake passengers that weren't in the fake planes that didn't crash into the WTC, Pentagon and the field in Pennsylvania!!!

After reading what some people believe, it is easier to understand how Obama got elected twice!

burningmetal 02-24-2013 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 481688)
You really believe nothing happened at Sandy Hook?

So there were 20+ fake funerals?

Where are the children & teachers that werent killed? I know! They are with the fake passengers that weren't in the fake planes that didn't crash into the WTC, Pentagon and the field in Pennsylvania!!!

After reading what some people believe, it is easier to understand how Obama got elected twice!

You know what, WhoDat? I try to be calm and civil with people, as much as I can bear to be. But I have to say, quite frankly. You come off as a bit of a tool.

I didn't vote for Obama. I believe he is the one behind this, in fact. That should have been obvious, though. And I clearly said that I believe 9/11 happened. I SPECIFICALLY said that I have never questioned any of the huge tragedies of the past, because I found no reason to.

But Sandy Hook is entirely different. Those 20+ funerals? What funerals? did you see the funerals? If there were caskets, did anybody look inside them? Why the hell have we seen nothing? Why are all the supposed victims so fake in every way? They don't even closely resemble people in mourning.

You want to know how Obama got re-elected? So do I. You don't think for a minute that perhaps you are being fooled? That voting machines were fixed in some areas, or that dead people's votes were being used? and back to Sandy Hook, you don't suppose he'd stage a fake to push his agenda? You don't believe Obama is that evil? Because I sure do, buddy.

I bet you haven't even looked at half of the evidence supporting this being a hoax. It is mind blowing how you can't see how incredibly fake this is.

WhoDat!656 02-25-2013 05:52 AM

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So where are the 20 children and 6-7 teachers that weren't killed @ Sandy Hook?

burningmetal 02-25-2013 06:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 481815)
So where are the 20 children and 6-7 teachers that weren't killed @ Sandy Hook?

You tell me? Isn't that the question? Where are the records that these people existed? The pictures of them are real people, but the names don't match the records. In the case of a government run hoax, the actual people in the photo's will not have their locations, or real names disclosed.

There are supposedly security cameras in that school, as most schools do. Why is there no footage? wouldn't that be important? What is up with the memorial pages being made as much as four days before the "shooting" took place, for some of these people?

One of the children who supposedly died, Emily Parker, was in a photo with her family (or supposed family) and Obama, a day or two AFTER the shooting. The "dad", Robbie Parker, was the guy who was seen smiling and laughing just before going on camera to make a statement, and promptly got into character and started hyperventilating. This guy, when his record was searched was found to be a man in his late 50's. Meaning the guy on tv is NOT Robbie Parker.

Why does the media not report this? Because they are either liberal puppets, or they are afraid of being criticized for questioning what is seen as a sensitive subject. Well, I have no reason to be afraid of anyone, so I'm speaking my mind.

But while the media hasn't reported the inconsistencies, have you noticed something? They have almost COMPLETELY shut up about it, altogether. I think they have an idea of what's going on, and they'd rather just leave the whole subject alone. It took much longer for all the other events to die down in the news. I seriously, seriously doubt this is a coincidence.

WhoDat!656 02-25-2013 08:47 PM

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So you believe all of the families that did/didn't have a child killed are in on this? For what reason? How did the government decide which families would or wouldn't be included? How much money were they offered/promised/paid?

Was the shooting at the theater in Colorado fake too? I don't see/hear/read any of the media talking about that shooting either, but for some reason the conspiracy theorists don't mention that

burningmetal 02-25-2013 11:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 482022)
So you believe all of the families that did/didn't have a child killed are in on this? For what reason? How did the government decide which families would or wouldn't be included? How much money were they offered/promised/paid?

Was the shooting at the theater in Colorado fake too? I don't see/hear/read any of the media talking about that shooting either, but for some reason the conspiracy theorists don't mention that

Actually, people have questioned the Theater shooting, though I personally haven't. And also, it is still being talked about. But that wasn't a school shooting. School shootings such as Va. Tech, Columbine, and Sandy Hook create much bigger reactions in the media, because it's involving young people and children.

Here's the biggest problem about that example you just gave. The theater shooting was many months ago. Remember how I said it takes much longer for these stories to die down, than it has taken for the Sandy Hook story to go away? The Sandy Hook thing lasted for a couple weeks, and suddenly *poof*. Almost nothing about it anymore, at all.

And yes, I do believe the families in this Sandy Hook thing were in on it. They are all actors, how did you miss that part? How the hell else would the government do this? How much were they paid? How should I know? Do you think that is information that I would be privy to? Just consider, for one moment, that this is in fact a hoax. Why would the government admit to it? They never will.

But they don't have to for to be able to look with their own eyes. Something you refuse to do.

And lastly, I expect an answer to at least one of my questions, WhoDat. For every question I've asked you, you've given me about 4, with zero answers to any of mine. What is your problem with addressing any of my points? It's weak. I'm sorry, but I've just about had enough of hearing "conspiracy" out of you. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some things are true. I don't react to every so called tragedy with a theory. I don't have a theory at all, in fact. I'm looking right at this BS and seeing that nothing even comes close to making sense, as it has been reported by the media. I believe the Obama administration is an evil, evil group of people.


But if you trust everything the government/media says, without ever questioning anything, then you have no clue. How many lies has Obama told, and yet people just go along with it. You don't see anything odd about that? Why is Obama seemingly invincible to media scrutiny? We still don't have his birth certificate, for crap sake! But it's ok... In Obama they trust. Something sinister is going on, and if you don't realize it, then it's time to get off of the computer and watch what's going on around you.

WhoDat!656 02-26-2013 05:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 482059)
Actually, people have questioned the Theater shooting, though I personally haven't. And also, it is still being talked about. But that wasn't a school shooting. School shootings such as Va. Tech, Columbine, and Sandy Hook create much bigger reactions in the media, because it's involving young people and children.

Here's the biggest problem about that example you just gave. The theater shooting was many months ago. Remember how I said it takes much longer for these stories to die down, than it has taken for the Sandy Hook story to go away? The Sandy Hook thing lasted for a couple weeks, and suddenly *poof*. Almost nothing about it anymore, at all.

And yes, I do believe the families in this Sandy Hook thing were in on it. They are all actors, how did you miss that part? How the hell else would the government do this? How much were they paid? How should I know? Do you think that is information that I would be privy to? Just consider, for one moment, that this is in fact a hoax. Why would the government admit to it? They never will.

But they don't have to for to be able to look with their own eyes. Something you refuse to do.

And lastly, I expect an answer to at least one of my questions, WhoDat. For every question I've asked you, you've given me about 4, with zero answers to any of mine. What is your problem with addressing any of my points? It's weak. I'm sorry, but I've just about had enough of hearing "conspiracy" out of you. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some things are true. I don't react to every so called tragedy with a theory. I don't have a theory at all, in fact. I'm looking right at this BS and seeing that nothing even comes close to making sense, as it has been reported by the media. I believe the Obama administration is an evil, evil group of people.


But if you trust everything the government/media says, without ever questioning anything, then you have no clue. How many lies has Obama told, and yet people just go along with it. You don't see anything odd about that? Why is Obama seemingly invincible to media scrutiny? We still don't have his birth certificate, for crap sake! But it's ok... In Obama they trust. Something sinister is going on, and if you don't realize it, then it's time to get off of the computer and watch what's going on around you.

The problem with your questions/theory is that they don't pass the smell test.

I have gone on record as saying that I DO believe the government is trying to use Sandy Hook as a reason to disarm the public.

I just don't agree with all this conspiracy theory crap.

For your theory to work that Sandy Hook didn't happen the way the media says it did, i.e. a lone gunman, after killing his mother, went to that school and shot and killed 20+ children and 6-7 teachers before killing himself, think of all the pieces that have to fit perfectly together FOREVER for it to work!

As Al Capone said, 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead!

burningmetal 02-26-2013 11:39 PM

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It doesn't pass the smell test? What exactly are you smelling?

I have an idea. Instead of sniffing, actually take a look at the lack of evidence and how all of the reports contradict themselves. I'm not going on theory. I'm going on exactly what has been presented, or in most cases, not presented at all.

But what you are referring to as my "theory" is not at all what I believe. You're story above was just a repeat of what the media says happened. I said I don't believe ANYONE was killed.

Why do I believe this? If people actually did die, then WHY should the government hide that? If you agree, as you say you do, that the government is at the very least using this to push their agenda (even if you believe that the shooting happened), then wouldn't they want to show as much as they are allowed to? Wouldn't they want to show as much as they could to piss people off even more and try to rally all these people against guns? I think they would.

Yet we have no security footage. The medical examiner and the police reports seem to contradict themselves at every turn. You're saying everything would have to be perfect for this to work. I agree. They have been FAR from perfect. Why do you think people like me and many others are asking questions? And those questions aren't being answered.

People jumped the gun on their memorial pages, and the acting has been atrocious. Not ONE tear has been shed in any of these interviews. I've watched every single one that is available. Which is probably all of them, period. I couldn't believe this any more than you right at first. But I knew something wasn't right, for all these inconsistencies and glaring holes to be piling up. So I started watching the interviews and tried to see if I could detect any emotion out of these parents. None. I see smiling, laughing, talking about cute little funny memories with their children, but no tears. The only thing you hear is a deep breath every now and then. Like that's supposed to be convincing.

I know human beings. I would assume you do too. It's odd enough for one person to act strange. But ALL of them? Is it normal for human beings to lose a child and show no real emotion, just days later?

Your opinion of this current administration seems to be that they are just a run of the mill liberal party, playing politics to get their way. I don't believe we're dealing with that at all. We are well on our way to becoming the next soviet union. You underestimate the power of evil in a country that has become far too easily fooled.

You're not going to find the "victims" who I don't believe were killed, because no one knows who they are. There is no telling how far they have scattered about, and what their real names actually are. I can't tell you for an absolute fact that they aren't dead. But I can tell you for a fact that the reported story is 100% false. I'm simply using common sense to fill in the blanks, as I see it.

Here's one more thing to consider. You don't believe that no one was killed, because you apparently don't think these people could hide. Ok, I'll play along for a second. So let's say these kids and teachers are all dead, and the government might have hired someone to kill them, and then Killed Adam Lanza (who's name has not been confirmed in records) and framed him as the killer. In theory, this would make it easier for them to pull off the lie, as far as telling the public WHO was responsible.

But what about the families. If the families aren't actors, then why aren't they showing emotion? Why aren't THEY asking more questions? They just accepted everything, right from the beginning. Well maybe the government killed the parents too. Ah, but then they would have to kill the rest of their extended family, because those people would want to know what happened to their loved one's. See how much more complicated it gets?

That is why I don't think anyone was killed, and these families were in on it. They clearly behave like actors. Many of them, and I believe perhaps all of them were found out to be members of a local acting club (I'm not entirely sure if it was all of them, going on memory, but for certain there were several). Does that not make you wonder in the least?

WhoDat!656 05-11-2013 08:45 AM

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And now the school board has voted to bulldoze the school!

They probably also had a secret meeting and voted to send the rubble to China.

Now we will never know how the school free fell with tons of concrete and steel pushing back!

TheOak 05-12-2013 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 502205)
And now the school board has voted to bulldoze the school!

They probably also had a secret meeting and voted to send the rubble to China.

Now we will never know how the school free fell with tons of concrete and steel pushing back!

How about a man with 3 pistols and a long gun was buzzed in through a secure door?


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