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INDIANAPOLIS -- Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian says the team will not discipline defensive tackle Eric Foster, who faces a sexual assault lawsuit.



A 22-year-old hotel receptionist is suing Foster, claiming that he sexually assaulted her in his room at an Indianapolis hotel before the AFC Championship Game on Jan. 24.
Polian said Wednesday that the team has no reason to discipline Foster because police investigated the incident and prosecutors later decided not to file charges.
He says Foster remains with the team and will participate in its offseason program.
The Associated Press is not naming the woman because it generally does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault.


President Bill Polian says Indianapolis Colts won't discipline Eric Foster after sexual assault accusation - ESPN


Hey falconhater, what should happen to this guy?

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DTs are never as guilty as QBs

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This is true I suppose. :doh:

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he should be punnished like the other clowns

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For what...eh, never mind. Falconhater will be along to agree with you soon enough.

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**** starter...lol

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Whats wrong with people today? Either he's a guilty scumbag or shes a lying *****. Its just sad.

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o.k. you got me saint zoey, i'm guilty of having 2 girls in college i'm trying to protect from buddy's like yours.lol

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It is. B!tches only see a paycheck and the guys use their celebrity to get away with being a dirtbag.

When will people learn?

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What? Amazing...

If you had two boys, would you be interested in protecting them from gold diggers? Not saying that is the case here, but then we can't say it isn't either, so why so quick to the trigger?

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not pulling the trigger, if i had 2 wealthy boy's in college trying to scoop up chic's there age and they pulled crap like the one's were talking about i would protect them like a father till they went off to the state pen. lol saintsfan its an every year gonna happen thing these instant millionaires just take what they want without permission and i'm guilty of getting way over pissed about it. big ben is just an guy that can't control his alco and thats his problem. i have nothing against ben with no alco. foster on the other hand invites this hotel clerk to his room and i guess he thinks its on so he takes it. i don't know what happened ,and that's what your trying to drive home to me. we don't know. but i will take up for the lowly victim every time sorry bro.

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But you don't know what happened, so yeah, you're pretty much jumping the gun wouldn't you agree, or do you know something the rest of us don't know? What if your boys were innocent? You know, ladies lead rich and famous guys on all the time and then change their tune for a pay day. Why are you so quick to assume one thing and not the other? Because you have daughters? That doesn't make it right. I have a daughter too by the way.

We're not talking about Ben...we're talking about someone else, or we might be talking about Michael Irvin who was accused but not charged recently, or Warren Sapp, who was accused but not charged recently.

The 'victim' is sometimes a crooked SOB, so maybe you should be a bit more discerning, bro.

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Nope sorry - I have a daughter in college also sp I tend to agree.

I also have son in college & you are right I am not as worried about him.

BUT - LETS BE HONEST (any of us who are men) We know exactly what is on the minds of most guys for a great deal of the day & it is...Sex.

I do worry about the huge ginormous athletes behaving like drunken frat boys more than I do about some cougar taking advantage of my son.

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I think you guys are missing the point. Why does everyone want to assume the guy is guilty? Upon what, precisely (and don't be vague and say you have girls in college), are you basing that assumption? I've known plenty of girls who were just as interested in sex as me when I was in college.

Being worried about your son any more or less than your daughter completely misses the point. What if your SON was the accused? THEN how quick are you to make the 'guilty as assumed' statement? I'll bet the roll is slowed considerably.

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Kinda like.. you dont know till it happens to you...whats new in life ,,huh

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I have learned a lot while managing to live as long as I have, and my opinions of things and my approach to things, in many cases, have changed from when I was 22 or 23 and could afford to spout off about things I didn't know anything about. There was a time when I didn't understand my grandpa's grace, and only now am I starting to 'get it'. I can see now why he feels the way he feels and why he acts (or doesn't act) the way he does. God forbid something ever happened to a child of mine, cause I'm likely to kill the SOB that did it - and ya'll can visit me in jail until falconhater throws the switch. But that's not the point.

The old saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover" is accurate
Never, EVER assume something unless you're prepared to be wrong
Do unto others as you would have done to you
Don't throw rocks in a glass house
Innocent until proven guilty
Stuck between a hard rock and a fence post

No, wait, that last one is my wife's version. She always gets the sayings 'mostly' right. LOL But you must also be a responsible person to yourself and do what you can to stay away from situations that are potentially sub-optimal, for lack of a better way to express it.


You get the theme. People throw good lessons right out the window for all kinds of reasons. People chose to ignore things because they want to, and they chose to circumvent rules when convenient, and some people will trash any thing and any person that gets in the way of THEIR view of things. We've all been guilty of these kinds of things at some point or other. I made the assumption that falconhater didn't have a degree in English. He does. I was wrong. He clearly assumes his degree is evidence of his knowledge. It isn't. He is wrong. :)

So when a guy is accused of 'rape', so many people start beating their chests or hoping for this punishment or that punishment or maybe no punishment at all. There is evidence of several people doing that on this site alone. I just do not follow the logic. I'm the FIRST guy in line to sound off on punishment once a person is proven guilty, but I'm also the FIRST guy in line to tell the crowd to wait until the process is complete, because I know for a undeniable fact that the accused is often innocent of the crime and that there isn't always enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict, even thought what evidence there is may 'suggest' guilt. I manage to maintain my respect for the system because I believe in it, and I have a genuine desire to understand why others do not. And everyone's principles go right out the window when something hits close to home, whether they admit it or not.

You see a rich athlete. He gets himself into trouble with some lady. The vigilantes among us arrive with a noose on the ready. OH, the POOR VICTIM! I say let's slow down here, because I can point to many times where the 'victim' turned out to be the accused. The NFL PREACHES to these kids to watch themselves, and to be on the lookout for gold diggers, although they use different language I would imagine. All rookies are required to attend this event every year. I've worked for several companies that require everyone (men and women) to attend sexual harassment training so the employees KNOW what it means, and the lawyers who teach these classes will tell you, it has as much to do with knowing how to spot that gold digger as it does knowing you can't force yourself on someone.

So yeah, you don't know what happens until it happens, and you don't know what happened until you have all the facts. Making assumptions is dangerous, and if you're not careful you'll end up between a hard rock and a fence post. ;)

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TLTR
lol

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wow.....thats a long response

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i told you already i don't know so don't beat the dead horse, this crap gets to the public then vanishes when the big secret settlements done. does that make ben and foster guilty hell yea

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Exhibit "A"

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you are the winner of this debate i will proudly go away with tail between legs saintfan you drive home attorney knowledge and i cannot continue getting a ass whipping.

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I'm not trying to win anything. I'm trying to understand why you and others like you think the way you do, because to me it doesn't make sense.

If you'd prefer to be sarcastic that's cool. If you'd like to explain your reasoning I'm more than happy to hear you out, but I might also question why you think the way you do.

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if bens not guilty why in the hell did he get reprimaned from his livelyhood, i'm putting forth proof in the nfl that he is guilty as charged. now in your aspect in real life the exibit-a you are right prove it if i'm the one. we are talking about football players and there responsibility of the rules of there own world the nfl, this has gone way over my head in your arguments. it were suppose to stay in the nfl, then it went to our kids in college. i'm not being sarcastic because i don't know what it means. and when i posted lol i wanted it to be friendly. if you want more than that find someone else please because i'm done with u.

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Here's your first post in this thread. What should he be punished for? What is he guilty of? What sort of punishment are you talking about? Should he not get the benefit if due process? I think he did, and I think they aren't pressing charges, so what I want you to do is explain what you think he is guilty of, what his punishment should be, and how you can come to these conclusions without one snippet of evidence. I want to know why people that think the way you think think the way you do?

I didn't drag you to this thread. I'm not making you participate. Don't get mad at me. It's a flippin forum for the love of...

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way back when this thread started someone wrote **** starter lol right then i started not to reply on this matter. o.k. to answer your ? the nfl punnished ben for what ever happened in that bar. ben agreed to the guilt of nfl rules and will take the punnishment, now right there i agree with the punishment that has been handed down. o.k. now for foster i believe i wrote he deserves what the other clowns got. if i said something esle its close to it. meaning if in the scope of the rules of the nfl were broken like ben then he deserves that . thats what i meant.

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Ah - the *#&$ starter was an inside joke.

So, the commish has this to say:

Agreed, 100% with this statement because the NFL has every right to take action because of this:


So the NFL doesn't require a conviction, and we all know that, but that isn't the point. Let's move on to the person in THIS thread.

So, Eric Foster may face a civil case, but he will not be charged, much like Ben, but that in no means makes his case the same or even similar to Ben's situation. Michael Irvin is presently charged for the same thing, in a civil case, where the woman making the accusation has dropped her price from 1 million to 800k, and Irvin is counter suing. Should Foster, or Irving, get the same 'punishment' as Ben? Well, I suppose Foster might, because he is still an NFL player, but then again he might not, because the comish will likely want to review all the evidence before he makes a decision, which is something you don't want to take the time to do, right. He's accused, so punish him -- that's what I'm hearing you say. Here's what I take issue with:

You don't have any idea if he's guilty. You couldn't possibly know. Remember those Duke Lacross players? By your standard, those guys were guilty of SOMEthing as soon as they were charged. No conviction, but guilty of SOMEthing right out of the box. If you had your way, you would have punished them right? Then what do you do after all the evidence is in and it is shown that the accused is the real victim. Now what?

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it doe'snt mean he got off free he'll be dealt with like ben and get punnished, talking about foster. now your bringing in lacross players. lets stay in the nfl please. and you won't because goodel is the jury and judge. i'm staying in the nfl bro i've asked us to hang there, u keep saying my standard, its the nfl standard and u can't accept it. i'm really worn out bro lets move on please, high five. lol i have not typed this much in 30 years.

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I'm not staying in the NFL because the NFL isn't my point. It has never been my point. The Lacross players are a perfect example of my point. You say they are guilty, either because they were accused or because they settled. I am saying being accused or settling a civil suite is not evidence of guilt, neither by law or in the NFL. I completely accept the NFL standard, which is why I said I agree 100% with the decision the commish made, but even HE won't suspend a player based on accusation alone. Rather, he reviews the evidence, which you haven't done in Foster's case yet you are prepared to levy the same punishment on him that Ben received - even before you've heard the evidence. Tell me, what do you know about the Foster case, in detail? Even the "No Fun League" is more cautious.

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o" i'm sorry i really don't know squat about foster case. i'm guilty o.k. . it seems to me that this has become personal to you and no one else because we are the lone occupants of this thread, i am not asking to be excused, i am done with you and your opinion on the matter, i gave you mine and we don't have to agree. so saintfan good luck bro your on your own.

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I was asking legitimate questions. We're back to sarcasm. It does appear to have become personal, and perhaps I've struck a nerve, but it isn't personal on my part. I didn't ask you to post in this thread. You did that on your own. Bring something to the conversation next time...I guess...I mean I know you have an opinion, but we were not able to establish why. Oh well...