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Of course the Patriots' Super Bowl titles are tainted. We're not really having this discussion, are we? I mean, this isn't a point worthy of debate.

Is it?

The astronomical home run totals of Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire are tainted. Roger Clemens' late-career heroics are tainted. Brian Cushing's sack totals? Tainted. When you cheat, your accomplishments are tainted. As far as facts go, that one's right up there with the sun rising in the east.

Did you know water freezes at 32 degrees? It does. That's a fact. And when one football team secretly tapes the signals of other football teams, and then wins games -- more games than anyone else in football, including three Super Bowl titles in four years -- those wins are tainted. That's another fact.

Now then, the Patriots' Super Bowl titles happened. Nobody's trying to erase those titles from the record book. The guy running the NFL remains Roger Goodell, not Mark Emmert, and the NFL isn't resorting to NCAA-style silliness by vacating the Patriots' Super Bowl titles. They happened, and we all saw it. They count. The rings on your fingers, New England Patriots? You can keep those rings.

Wait just a minute, folks -- Harbaugh's right, Pats' titles ARE tainted - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy

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