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QBREES9 07-04-2012 11:26 PM

Dan Marino
 
Fan's Take: Is Dan Marino the Best NFL Quarterback Without a Super Bowl Title? - Yahoo! Sports

mutineer10 07-05-2012 10:22 AM

It's either Marino or Kelly. Marino had a better arm, Kelly probably had a higher football IQ. Both were awfully good.

QBREES9 07-05-2012 10:50 PM

Dan Fouts too. He was one of the best. Air Coryell. Dan was great.

Crusader 07-06-2012 01:20 AM

Marino and Kelly are guys you wish would have won a title. Montana could have shared a little, that greedy bastard ;-)

sharke 07-06-2012 07:10 AM

Marino gets my vote by the sheer fact of a Hootie and the Blowfish connection...

SloMotion 07-06-2012 07:17 AM

... always a great debate, but I think I usually end up sticking with Marino because of the individual stats he set ... always felt bad for Jim Kelly/Fran Tarkenton never winning the big one, Dan Fouts/Warren Moon too ... those guys had some memorable seasons/games/teams ... but I think Marino is the best of that group.

WhoDat!656 07-06-2012 10:47 AM

When you consider that Jim Kelly took the Bills to FOUR CONSECUTIVE Super Bowls, something no other QB has done, or probably ever will do again, makes him, IMO, the unquestionable winner of this poll!

If Marino was 'SO" good, why was he only able to get the Dolphins to a single uper Bowl?

And I am not saying Marino isn't a Hall of Fame QB, but a guy that has been to 4 Super Bowls in 4 years, is a lot better than the QB that only got to one in his career!

SloMotion 07-06-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 416689)
When you consider that Jim Kelly took the Bills to FOUR CONSECUTIVE Super Bowls, something no other QB has done, or probably ever will do again, makes him, IMO, the unquestionable winner of this poll!

If Marino was 'SO" good, why was he only able to get the Dolphins to a single uper Bowl?

And I am not saying Marino isn't a Hall of Fame QB, but a guy that has been to 4 Super Bowls in 4 years, is a lo better than the QB that only got to one in his career!

IDK, I look at going to the Super Bowl and four consectutive Super Bowls as more of a team accomplishment then an individual one ... the fact Marino only went to one is more a reflection of Miami having to go through those great Buffalo teams of the 90's in the playoffs more then an indictment of Marino ... having four opportunities to win a SuperBowl and failing each time however, is something I would view as an individual shortcoming on a QB's part, ie Kelly.

Consider this ... what would Buffalo's SuperBowl record be today had Dan Marino/Jim Kelly traded places? I'd imagine Buffalo would probably have won 2 or 3 of those games and I still don't think Miami would have advanced past Buffalo in any of those playoffs, even with Jim Kelly at the helm.

Both were elite QB's and deserving of a SB ring, but if we're going to debate it, I'm going with Marino.

What's Jim Kelly doing these days anyway? Marino has his commercials & the Ace Ventura movie, you never see Jim Kelly ... must have invested his money wisely, guys like that usually do, :lol:.

WhoDat!656 07-06-2012 03:46 PM

Football is the ultimate team game, and I didn't mean to imply that the Bills going to 4 straight Super Bowls was solely due to Kelly or Marino's lack of multiple Super Bowl appearance's was his.

I agree that both are elite QBs, but I have to give the nod to Kelly. It is hard enough for a team to get to its 1st Super Bowl, look at your Lions for example. But I would have to give the nod to the QB that got to 4 straight Super Bowls over a QB that only got to one.

Although I do believe that if Stafford stays healthy and the team can get the off-field player issues under control, the Lions will be the next team to make its Super Bowl debut.

But

SloMotion 07-06-2012 04:06 PM

... I can respect that because there's valid argument for both and it's one of those things that'll never be decided ... and you did kinda' rabbit-punch me with the Lions comparison, :lol: ... just kidding ... I'm cautiously optimistic about Detroit's chances, they have the injury issues, the maturity issues, the suspension issues and a few other things to work through, but yeah, among the teams that have never made it to the show, I like our chances at being next, :).

mutineer10 07-07-2012 08:44 AM

Kelly's 4 SB appearances had a lot to do with the talent surrounding him (Lofton, Reed, Thomas) and a very good defense. Marino had some good WR's (Clayton, Duper) but no elite runner, nor the defensive support.

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 416783)
... I'm cautiously optimistic about Detroit's chances, they have the injury issues, the maturity issues, the suspension issues and a few other things to work through, but yeah, among the teams that have never made it to the show, I like our chances at being next, :).

Heck, we FINALLY got ours after YEARS of heartbreak. If anybody knows how it feels to be the Lions, it's Saints fans!

QBREES9 07-14-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mutineer10 (Post 416882)
Kelly's 4 SB appearances had a lot to do with the talent surrounding him (Lofton, Reed, Thomas) and a very good defense. Marino had some good WR's (Clayton, Duper) but no elite runner, nor the defensive support.



Heck, we FINALLY got ours after YEARS of heartbreak. If anybody knows how it feels to be the Lions, it's Saints fans!

Amen brother.

Srgt. Hulka 07-14-2012 09:04 PM

Kelly with the 4 consecutive Superbowl apperances, and Marino with passing record that nobody thought would ever be broken...until last year, in my opinion puts them neck and neck. I did love to watch Kelly play back then. He's one of my all time favorite football players.

QBREES9 07-22-2012 07:34 PM

Hulka !!!!!!!!!

Danno 07-23-2012 10:04 PM

Marino, obviously.

Kelly next.

And don't forget Manning.

73Saint 07-23-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 416748)
IDK, I look at going to the Super Bowl and four consectutive Super Bowls as more of a team accomplishment then an individual one ... the fact Marino only went to one is more a reflection of Miami having to go through those great Buffalo teams of the 90's in the playoffs more then an indictment of Marino ... having four opportunities to win a SuperBowl and failing each time however, is something I would view as an individual shortcoming on a QB's part, ie Kelly.

Consider this ... what would Buffalo's SuperBowl record be today had Dan Marino/Jim Kelly traded places? I'd imagine Buffalo would probably have won 2 or 3 of those games and I still don't think Miami would have advanced past Buffalo in any of those playoffs, even with Jim Kelly at the helm.

Both were elite QB's and deserving of a SB ring, but if we're going to debate it, I'm going with Marino.

What's Jim Kelly doing these days anyway? Marino has his commercials & the Ace Ventura movie, you never see Jim Kelly ... must have invested his money wisely, guys like that usually do, :lol:.

JimKelly.com | The Official Site for Hall of Fame Quarterback Jim Kelly
Looks like he stays pretty busy.

SloMotion 07-24-2012 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 420663)

Whoa! Football Camp, Celebrity Classic, snappy website ... you ain't kidding! :mrgreen:.

Wilde18 07-24-2012 06:03 AM

I's say Marino. His records made him known over here to Germany. He is a legend.

foreverfan 07-24-2012 06:14 AM

Honorable Mention for Sure.

http://www.6magazineonline.com/wp-co...-Tarkenton.jpg

SloMotion 07-24-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilde18 (Post 420699)
I's say Marino. His records made him known over here to Germany. He is a legend.

... or is it because he looks like David Hasselhoff? I heard Hasselhoff is a most popular star over in Germany, :lol: ... j/k, I agree with you on him being legend.

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpr...dan-marino.jpg

sharke 07-25-2012 06:38 AM

in all fairness, Jim Kelly's Bills are referenced in more Ice Cube songs.....just saying.....

mutineer10 07-25-2012 12:55 PM

But Dan Marino appears in more Hootie & The Blowfish videos!

Marlboro Man 07-28-2012 05:35 PM

I'd say it's a toss up between the three, Marino, Fouts and Kelly, although Kelly did go to 4 straight Super Bowls.


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