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CharityMike 07-31-2012 02:16 PM

Falcons coordinator calls Matt Ryan a Top 10 quarterback
 
Falcons coordinator calls Matt Ryan a Top 10 quarterback
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 31, 2012, 1:01 PM EDT

APFalcons quarterback Matt Ryan had career highs in passer rating, yards and touchdowns last season, but when he had a disappointing performance in Atlanta’s postseason loss to the Giants, there was talk that Ryan wasn’t delivering the way the Falcons needed from their franchise quarterback.

But Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter doesn’t see it that way. According to Koetter, Ryan is one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the league, and Koetter sounds confident that Ryan is going to lead an explosive Atlanta offense this season.

“How he’s won as a starter in the league, we think he’s a top 10 quarterback,” Koetter told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “His play backs that up. We have an excellent group of players on the offense. Players, offensive staff and coach [Mike] Smith are fun guys to work with. We have a lot of talent and a lot of guys that can make explosive plays.”

Many others don’t see it that way: When NFL Network unveiled the list of the Top 100 players in the league as voted on by their peers, 13 quarterbacks made the cut, but Ryan wasn’t one of them. And ESPN’s Ron Jaworski, who recently ranked all the league’s quarterbacks, put Ryan at No. 11.



:rofl::nuts::rofl::nuts::rofl::nuts::rofl::nuts: Top 10..please :rofl:

sharke 07-31-2012 02:20 PM

In all fairness, he did not specify which league. I'm sure Matt Ryan is a top 10 quarterback in many metro-Atlanta peewee leagues, perhaps even a number 1.

QBREES9 07-31-2012 03:03 PM

Yeah so what does that mean ?

|Mitch| 07-31-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

When NFL Network unveiled the list of the Top 100 players in the league as voted on by their peers, 13 quarterbacks made the cut, but Ryan wasn’t one of them.
I believe this says it all...

Utah_Saint 07-31-2012 03:48 PM

To be fair, It was an Atlanta coordinator, there's a good chance he couldn't count any higher than 10 with out being arrested for indecent exposure.

CharityMike 07-31-2012 03:59 PM

Or maybe he meant top 10 in the division :)

ChrisXVI 07-31-2012 04:02 PM

Too easy to bash the Falcons... It's just too easy.

QBREES9 07-31-2012 09:58 PM

The kids a good QB, but he no Drew Brees.

FinSaint 08-01-2012 06:01 AM

Well Skid Britches was better than Freeman last season, so I guess I'd place him 3rd in the division after Brees and Newton - again purely based on the overall performance of the previous regular season.

No way is he a Top 10 QB in the league, but I guess he could be in some point in the future.

sharke 08-01-2012 06:08 AM

Freeman has the talent, just needs to lose the prepubescent girl mentality. I'd still place him over Ryan though.

Mardigras9 08-01-2012 09:36 AM

He wouldn't be a bad back-up for us. Problem is, he is in a division with one of the best QB's in football. Hard to see past the fact he is a Falcon however.

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:07 AM

the only reason people pput Matt Ryan outside top 10 is that he hasn't won a playoff game. All of you can go check his stats.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422920)
the only reason people pput Matt Ryan outside top 10 is that he hasn't won a playoff game.

When it counts is when it matters... A safety from the defense just don't cut it...

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 422921)
When it counts is when it matters... A safety from the defense just don't cut it...

His only stat outside top 10 is completion percentange and he finished 11th there.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422924)
His only stat outside top 10 is completion percentange and he finished 11th there.

Who is #1?

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 422925)
Who is #1?

Drew Brees... and I don't care. I'm not afraid of him.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422927)
I'm not afraid of him.

You may not be, but your team is :bng:

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:30 AM

They are not. You can't ever enter a football game thinking that there is no way to win against the opponent. NFL players certainly don't do that.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422933)
They are not.

I guess that makes them "brave" losers then? lol

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:39 AM

Why did I expect all of you Saints fans be like this? It's only been about a week since I joined these forums and I still haven't met a decent Saints fan.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422942)
Why did I expect all of you Saints fans be like this? It's only been about a week since I joined these forums and I still haven't met a decent Saints fan.

If you can't take a little civilized smacktalk, thats your problem...

Be glad you have been here a week, ATL fans/mods of the Atl boards ban Saints fans on sight...

How is that for classless?

atltillidie 08-01-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 422945)
If you can't take a little civilized smacktalk, thats your problem...

Be glad you have been here a week, ATL fans/mods of the Atl boards ban Saints fans on sight...

How is that for classless?

Ever met SaintRay, joe horn, sYcola..is..awesome, Reese, jb 3.0, and many others on that board? None of them are banned because they aren't trolls.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422946)
Ever met SaintRay, joe horn, sYcola..is..awesome, Reese, jb 3.0, and many others on that board? None of them are banned because they aren't trolls.

And do they complain about the rival fans being classless when they get "ribbed" a little?

You've been here a week, no need to think us classless... Most of us will talk civilized football and the smacktalk is left in the smacktalk section... I was just giving you a hard time...

sharke 08-01-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422942)
It's only been about a week since I joined these forums and I still haven't met a decent Saints fan.

Well, if it makes you feel better, it's been 29 years and I still haven't met a decent falcons fan.

atltillidie 08-01-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sharke (Post 422975)
Well, if it makes you feel better, it's been 29 years and I still haven't met a decent falcons fan.

Well, you've just met one.

saintfan 08-01-2012 12:55 PM

Brees
Brady
Manning
Manning
Rivers
Rogers
Schaub
Flacco
Stafford
Romo


There's 10 right there who I think are better than Matt Ryan, and I'd say that about Matt Ryan regardless of who he plays for, it's just more fun to say it about him because he's a Failclown.

What hammers me is the media, ESPN in particular, and John Clayton to be specific, calling Skid Britches "Elite". IMO Brees, Brady, Rogers, P Manning, and MAYBE Rivers, are "Elite". Matt Ryan doesn't even sniff elite.

Is he top 15? Maybe. But top 15 ain't top 10, and it sure as hell isn't "elite".

sharke 08-01-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 422983)
Brees
Brady
Manning
Manning
Rivers
Rogers
Schaub
Flacco
Stafford
Romo

dude, harsh, even I'll defend ryan on that one....

but I'd also put Vick and yes, Sanchez, above ryan

atltillidie 08-01-2012 12:59 PM

Vick? Flacco? SANCHEZ?! You guys gotta go check Mattyice's stats.

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sharke (Post 422985)
dude, harsh, even I'll defend ryan on that one....

Flacco has won a playoff game :jkool:

stats mean nothing without wins

atltillidie 08-01-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 422983)
Brees
Brady
Manning
Manning
Rivers
Rogers
Schaub
Flacco
Stafford
Romo


There's 10 right there who I think are better than Matt Ryan, and I'd say that about Matt Ryan regardless of who he plays for, it's just more fun to say it about him because he's a Failclown.

What hammers me is the media, ESPN in particular, and John Clayton to be specific, calling Skid Britches "Elite". IMO Brees, Brady, Rogers, P Manning, and MAYBE Rivers, are "Elite". Matt Ryan doesn't even sniff elite.

Is he top 15? Maybe. But top 15 ain't top 10, and it sure as hell isn't "elite".

He has stats that say top 10 all over him. Once again, his only stat outside top 10 is completion percentage. and he finished 11th there.

sharke 08-01-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422987)
Vick? Flacco? SANCHEZ?! You guys gotta go check Mattyice's stats.

A) matty ice is a horrible, HOORIBLE, name
B) Jesus is now on Sanchez's team so seriously, watch out
C) c'mon, no soft spot for Vick?

saintfan 08-01-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 422991)
He has stats that say top 10 all over him. Once again, his only stat outside top 10 is completion percentage. and he finished 11th there.

Completion percentage is arguably the most important stat for a QB. So there you go. Then again, if he were to complete 80% of his passes and continue to choke in big games, well, I guess you get the point.

And yes, I think Facoo is better than Ryan. I think Stafford is better than Ryan. I think Romo is better than Ryan too. Neither of those three is "elite", and Ryan sure as hell isn't elite.

saintfan 08-01-2012 01:08 PM

And how does one get the "ICE" moniker when one hasn't won a playoff game? The media hypes this turd so much - they're desperate for another star. They should look north to Detroit for that in my Opinion. Skid Britches sucks monkey balls.

atltillidie 08-01-2012 01:12 PM

NFL Stats: by Player Category

This is passer rating. I'm going to try to dig up the rest of the stats so you guys can see them.

atltillidie 08-01-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 422995)
Completion percentage is arguably the most important stat for a QB. So there you go. Then again, if he were to complete 80% of his passes and continue to choke in big games, well, I guess you get the point.

And yes, I think Facoo is better than Ryan. I think Stafford is better than Ryan. I think Romo is better than Ryan too. Neither of those three is "elite", and Ryan sure as hell isn't elite.

Flacco's completion percentage is below Matt Ryan's... 57.6%

As for Matt Ryan not completing 80 percent of his passes... Only Drew Brees had even a 70% (71.2) completion percentage. I think only Aaron Rodgers came close(68.3). 60% is considered above-average, an Matt Ryan is at 61%. The the qbs in the top 10-5 had about 61%-65%

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 423004)
Flacco's completion percentage is Tim Tebow bad...

As for Matt Ryan not completing 80 percent of his passes... Only Drew Brees had even a 70% completion percentage. I think only Aaron Rodgers came close. 60% is considered above-average, an Matt Ryan is at 61%. The the qbs in the top 10-5 had about 61%-65%

Matt Ryan is 11th in completion percentage at 61.3, Brees had 71.something and Rodgers is way behind at 68.something

atltillidie 08-01-2012 01:36 PM

He's also tied with ELi Manning for 6th in the league for TDs. (29)

He's 8th in the league for First downs. (205)

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 01:39 PM

well until he starts scoring 40+ TD's a year, I'll stay unimpressed :mrgreen:

atltillidie 08-01-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 423015)
well until he starts scoring 40+ TD's a year, I'll stay unimpressed :mrgreen:

Ben Rothlisberger threw for only 21. :/

|Mitch| 08-01-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 423016)
Ben Rothlisberger threw for only 21. :/

great, we just figured out that Skid is better than Ben Rapistberger and not as good as Drew... :bng:


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