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Boutte 01-06-2013 09:08 PM

Do you play RGIII?
 
To me that was borderline criminal. Definitely stupid. It's not they were in the Vikings situation. Cousins has proved he can play. If this kid has a serious injury injury Shanahan should be fired.

bobdog86 01-06-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Tough call. All I would really say is if I was Shanny "the weasel", I think I would have rather listened to the "professionals" aka Doctors as opposed to a player, you know they would try and play on a stump. Hell, Doc Andrews himself was on the sidelines.

|Mitch| 01-06-2013 09:16 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
That play in the 4th quarter when he went out of the game, looked nasty... No way is a knee supposed to give out and fold the way his did...

Jamessr 01-06-2013 09:18 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Well I would take the advice of my doctors an ask the player...
However he was clearly shut down going into the 3rd. Kirk cousins isn't all that bad either. I would have gone with cousins at the beginning of the 3rd.

But then again I'm an armchair coach at best

QBREES9 01-06-2013 09:27 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
I just hope he not seriously hurt after that game.

Jamessr 01-06-2013 09:30 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
I think he'll be fine after the off season

Wilde18 01-06-2013 09:40 PM

What happened? Didn't watch the game

Danno 01-06-2013 09:42 PM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Redskins Dr. Andrews never cleared RG3 to return against Ravens.

"[Griffin] didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.

"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."


Redskins Dr. Andrews never cleared RG3 to return against Ravens - CBSSports.com


Wow, thats more serious than a bogus bounty program.

Crusader 01-07-2013 02:12 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
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From the frontpage of nfl.com

I'm the quarterback of this team. My job is to be out there if I can play. I'm the best option for this team. That's why I'm the starter.
- Robert Griffin III


I didn't like him at Baylor and I don't like him with the Redskins. They should have played Cousins.

SloMotion 01-07-2013 04:54 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
In retrospect & hindsight being twenty-twenty, "no". I wouldn't have answered that way after the first quarter though, :lol:. Yeah, it was a playoff game and of course the guy wants to play, but you have to think about his health & career.

It would have helped me also in that I wouldn't have chosen WAS to win and WAS to cover the spread, just as I wouldn't have chosen MIN to cover the spread had it not been a gametime decision to sit Ponder (!@#$) :mrgreen:.

It's a business, but I hope they didn't just compromise the career of a promising young QB for the sake of a playoff game.

saintsfan1976 01-07-2013 06:03 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Our coach was suspended merely for suspicion of hurting players.

Shannahan flat out lied and refused to follow doctors orders.

Let's see if Goodell has the balls to take this one on.

That is if he can peel himself from Ray Lewis' jock strap.

TheOak 01-07-2013 06:21 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Exactly why a running QBs is not what we want or need.

Boutte 01-07-2013 06:29 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 470764)
Exactly why a running QBs is not what we want or need.

And exactly why the popular trend in thge NFL of running the option is going to be short lived.

Mardigras9 01-07-2013 08:43 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
I play him. It's win or go home and he gives you the best chance.

TheOak 01-07-2013 09:11 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 470768)
And exactly why the popular trend in the NFL of running the option is going to be short lived.

The ONLY way to make it work RELIABLY is to look like LSU last season... three QBs. at least. and they all have to be option QBs. But then you have commoditized QBs and they don't get the payday.

RGIII, Vick..... Both Eagles and Skins have found them selves trying to get through a game with a QB that has seen little or no playing time this season. You saw Denver try and do it with Tebow, if Tebow had gotten hurt then they would have to change their game plan to suit a passing QB.

If you had RGIII, Vick, and Tebow on the same team you would have a shot as when one went down the game plan wouldn't have to change.

Wilson will not last long if he keeps blocking for Lynch.

At the end of the season teams with Passing QBs win championships and Super Bowls.

papz 01-07-2013 09:49 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
I play him.

He got them there.
He wanted to stay in.
He's the franchise quarterback.

If it were Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers... there wouldn't be a second guessing of the decision. If RG3 is the franchise quarterback, then he should be treated like one and given the same type of respect from the team.

The Redskins had one hell of a season and have a great future ahead of them. They made a lot further than anyone thought they would this year.

onebyone 01-07-2013 10:24 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
There was a point in the game when it seemed obvious not only could he not run, but he could hardly even walk. I probably would've yanked him there. You just sort of knew that things were only going to get worse.

Danno 01-07-2013 10:33 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
I tell RG3 to shut his trap and I listen to the team doctors advise.

If Doc says OK, then I send him in.
If Doc say NO, he sits.

Shanahan ignored the Doctor.

SaintsBro 01-09-2013 03:52 AM

Re: Do you play RGIII?
 
The other important thing about this, is how it changes the future relationship between Dr. Andrews and RGIII and the Redskins organization.

In medical jargon among doctors, it's called a "non-compliant patient." The kind of patient who ignores the doctor's instructions or keeps un-doing the good the doctor has done (for example, a person who doesn't take their prescribed medicine, or a diabetic who doesn't follow instructions and won't change their diet and lifestyle, a heart attack patient who won't quit smoking, that's considered a non-compliant patient). Many doctors don't take very kindly to that kind of thing.

If I'm Dr. James Andrews, I take a long look at whether or not I want to continue treating RGIII, or if I want to just walk away from him and say, you know what, I can't repair your knee if you keep messing it up, it's not worth risking my reputation of success and excellence on you, I think you need to see somebody else.

From a medical perspective, Dr. Andrews is exposing himself to potential legal and professional risk here, and at a certain point it quite frankly may not be worth the hassle and headache for him. Dr. Andrew's name and reputation is on the line here, and RGIII ignored his professional consultation, and the Redskins basically lied and put words in his mouth and treated him like crap. Surgeons are measured professionally by their successful outcomes, and RGIII was an epic fail of an outcome, through no fault of Dr. Andrews.

TheOak 01-09-2013 06:47 AM

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RG3 knee surgery set today; all Wednesday's NFL news - NFL.com


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