Archie Manning: Don't call Falcons' Matt Ryan a 'choker'
 

"Peyton went through it at Tennessee because they didn't beat Florida, and (Ryan is) going through it now with his playoff record," said Archie Manning, the father of NFL quarterbacks. "But this is not Tom vs. Peyton, or Aaron vs. Matt. It isn't tennis. It isn't golf. Ninety to 95% of the time, it's the best team wins, not the best quarterback. You get to the point of labeling people chokers or losers, and that's not fair. It's one of the worst things in sports."

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I, for one, am so sick of everyone comparing Sh*t Pants Ryan's playoff FAILURES to Peyton Manning. Peyton can win big games, Ryan can't. End of discussion.

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Archie, just because they bullied Peyton and he didn't deserve it, doesn't mean Matty '2pts' doesn't deserve it.

Just sayin'. :mrgreen:

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Lets go Melty Ice show us what you got.

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I hope that the Seahags DESTROY Atlanta! It would be so awesome to have them go yet another year without a playoff win. Especially this year, when it's been talked about so much.

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Can we still call him skid britches?

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Ryan AND his wife!!

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Not only can we, but that is our duty as proud Saints' fans and as fans of football in general.

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I'm banking on it. Let's go Seahawks!!!!!!
(Yuk, that just feels dirty, Who Dat)

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Adversity at it's strongest is attacking my Falcons. This Sunday we can either fight through it, or we can bend over, and just take it. I expect us to fight it with every fiber of our being.

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Not really. The Falcons haven't faced much adversity at all this season, it's why they're 13-1 and on top of the NFC South. Adversity is having your head coach and other key members of the team suspended for the season. Overcoming adversity is still finishing 7-9, second in the division and handing the team that finished first in the division it's only loss.

It's not a matter of 'fighting through it' or 'bending over and taking it'. I'm sure the Falcons give it their all in the playoffs, they just get beat by better teams. They are not a team that controls their own destiny.

"If every man in here gives 30 minutes of extra work per day this week, then I'll work an HOUR longer every day."-Matt Ryan

I see the Matty '2pts' quotes in your signature now & then and they explain to me, in part, why people naturally don't appreciate Matty '2pts'. First and foremost is his abysmal playoff record in a league where, at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is winning a SuperBowl. Second is the way he loses.

Last, but not least, is he's too 'hollywood' & goofy to be the inspirational leader he imagines himself to be. When I see some of his quotes, I honestly think he's envisions himself to be Shane Falco (Keanu Reeves) from the movie, 'The Replacements, 2000'. I betcha' if we could ever get inside his house/apt, that CD is somewhere. And it was a terrible movie, so you really can't say everyone has it.

Just calling it like I see it, and I'm not viewing it through red & black goggles, eh? Until he wins the big one, he's a choker & he's no 'Peyton Manning', that's for sure.

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The kicker and the linebacker cracked me up. :p

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... and 'Jumbo', the sumo wrestler/offensive lineman, :mrgreen:.

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I call him all kinds of names without usually getting to "choker," I guess it's not profane enough!

Conspiracy theorists take note: the NFL made Seahawks at Falcons the EARLIEST playoff matchup of the weekend! So, the cross-country travel may hurt, but the Seahawks are playing tough football right now. The Foulcons will choke, Natty Ass will melt, and the Seahawks will proceed to the NFC Championship Game. Take it to the bank.

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Not this season, I meant the last four years. No one likes getting their asses kicked in the playoffs every time they make it. We understand that we are total failures in the playoffs we win a game in the playoffs and we're more motivated than ever than ever to do win in the playoffs.

You can't be the quarterback of an NFL team and take a seat in the back. He might not be a someone like Ray Lewis, but I would not like it if he didn't say things like what he said in my signature.

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The problem is Matty '2pts' doesn't have the resume to back up his 'inspirational leadership'. That comes with winning the tough games & in the playoffs. Did you happen to watch any of the DEN/BAL game? Flacco just passed Ryan on the scale of who you'd want to QB your NFL team. When Ryan can pull off a games like that, maybe then you can take him seriously as a leader. Until then, it's all just false motivation & cheerleading.

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I'm not gonna' congratulate Matty "1-win" on his first playoff victory, I'm gonna' put it in the proper perspective.

- Matty just joined an exclusive club of QBs with one playoff win. He's now right up there with former Atlanta great, Steve Bartkowski, who incidentally, also has a 1-3 playoff record. Matt Schaub (HOU), Erik Kramer (DET) and Matt Cassel (NE/KC), among many others, also have one playoff win. Pretty select company there, Matty.

- Russell Wilson still has a better playoff record than Ryan. 1-1 (.500) > 1-3 (.333)

- It took some last minute heroics by a field goal kicker in order for Matty to notch his first playoff victory. Who's got 'ice' in their veins now Matty?'.

I still think Archie got it wrong.

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So Peyton Manning isn't good because of his under .500 playoff record?

Dan Marino was trash?

Ben Roethlisburger and Eli Manning are better than Drew Brees and Peyton Mannng?

That's what I got out of that post. If you believe that, then you should say yes to those questions according to your arguement.

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That's why Flacco doesn't have more 4th quarter comebacks than Ryan.

Again, you can't be an NFL Quarterback and take a back seat.

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You're not seriously talking about Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Ben Roethlisburger, Eli Manning & Drew Brees in the same post as Matty '1-win' and expect me to take you seriously, are you? :rofl:. The elephant-in-the-room you may be missing is the SuperBowl ring(s).

And come up with something else than, "you can't be an NFL QB and take a back seat", you sound like a broken record. Actually, you sound like Matty '1-win' using the same old tired cliche's over and over and over. 4thQtr comebacks a team leader do not make.

Enjoy the kool-aid. I'm outta' here, Matty '1-win' is a boring topic. Let's hope your field goal kicker shows up next week, eh? :lol:.

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I wasn't comparing those guys to Ryan, I was just making statements that are apparently true based on the statement you made. I didn't type 'Matt Ryan' one time.

It's true.

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Ok Ok ok Archie... I won't call skid britches a choker!











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He won a single playoff game, but has lost three.

So far this victory can still be categorized as "fluke" because you gotta win more than one to be taken seriously when you've been there a couple times before.

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And apparently according to Pat Yankhisnuts, Ryan is now Elite. LMFAO..he is elite because he won a playoff game!! Thats some funny stuff there.

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So one of our all-time decents goes out and defends the crappy QB of our biggest rival??? Where is the world heading?

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and the definition of elite is?????

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Wouldn't call Ryan elite but he isn't bad. Sometimes our rivalry and hate for them can blind that someone is a good player.

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I think Matt is in between the categories, very good qbs and elite qbs. If he keeps on heading down the road he is now, he'll be elite soon.

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NOT!:dunce:

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Matt Ryan could be a good QB... I'll give the guy that. he has all the tools IMHO.
However he can't deliver in big games when he needed most.
If he isn't carefull they won't be saying elite when the speak of him, it will be more like compairing him to Tony Romo...

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Sure...... Why don't we make 32 Qb catagories so fans of NON-ELITE QB's can say their QB is in a category of his own...


Somewhere between Montana and JaMarcus Russel. Hows that? I doubt it is debatable at all.

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NOW can we call him a choker?

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No. He didn't throw the game away. If you want to see a choker, watch Tony Romo. He's been SINGLE-HANDEDLY throwing away games for years. There's a choker.

Choking can be done with more than one hand

That's called a circle....

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Your right. WE did choke. Giving up that big of a lead with the big dance on the line is unacceptable.

It hurts, but we can't hold on to it, though. Gotta let it go at sometime. We must move forward

You say "we" as if the other 99.8% of this forum is Falcon fans.

We don't have to do anything. You need to deal with your teams issues.

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You know who I'm talking about.

What I know is you talked sh1t all season and the Falcons choked.

Deal with it

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And based on the pick and fumbled snap I guess it's safe to say skid britches can't hold on to it either. LOL

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