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QBREES9 01-28-2013 09:07 PM

Flacco wants $20 million
 
Flacco wants $20 million: Ravens need to sign Flacco or he may test free agency - Detroit Football | Examiner.com

|Mitch| 01-28-2013 09:17 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Good luck to ya!

onebyone 01-28-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Win the Super Bowl, then worry about your contract Joe.

I will say though, Flacco is many years away from being worth $20 million a year no matter what happens. A good qb for the Ravens? Yes. Worthy of Brees/Manning/Brady money? No. No, no, no, no, no. No.

saintsfan403 01-28-2013 09:55 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Flacco, you will not get that contract. You jackass

lee909 01-29-2013 12:31 AM

Is this the same Joke Flacco that has never threw for over 4000 yards,not threw over 60% completion for 2 years or is this the QB with a career stats of 102 TDs,56 int and 34 fumbles

Beastmode 01-29-2013 01:29 AM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
He'll get it, or close to it. 12 playoff games.

burningmetal 01-29-2013 01:34 AM

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So the Ravens make it to the Superbowl and Flacco thinks he deserves 20 million a year? Trent Dilfer WON the Superbowl with the Ravens in 2000. Should he have gotten 20 million? He sucked, and he knew it. Flacco has played better than him, but not near enough to deserve what he wants.

SloMotion 01-29-2013 05:38 AM

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What is it with these guys and their egos before they accomplish anything? Flacco has been in my doghouse in the past for being an underachiever, but I give him credit for having at least one playoff win in each of his first five seasons, something even the 'great' Matthew 'Ice' couldn't accomplish (:rolleyes:) ... but not $20 million worth.

He's had Ray Rice & a pretty good defense to help him out along the way, don't get too greedy, Joey ... Baltimore's success hasn't been all you, eh?

Crusader 01-29-2013 06:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 476107)
So the Ravens make it to the Superbowl and Flacco thinks he deserves 20 million a year? Trent Dilfer WON the Superbowl with the Ravens in 2000. Should he have gotten 20 million? He sucked, and he knew it. Flacco has played better than him, but not near enough to deserve what he wants.

Trent Dilfer didn't suck at all. He was however a very limited quarterback who managed to have success in the leauge by being very aware of those limitations and therefore played within them.

burningmetal 01-29-2013 08:33 AM

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I'm not talking about Dilfer's entire career. He was serviceable over his career. But that year, especially in the playoffs? He was terrible and so was the rest of that offense. Their best output was in the Superbowl, and even then they had some defensive and special teams scores, as I remember.

So my point is that it is never about one player. Flacco has been very ordinary, on a good team, for years and suddenly he thinks he's THE man. That's where I have a problem with him.

TheOak 01-29-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 476102)
Is this the same Joke Flacco that has never threw for over 4000 yards,not threw over 60% completion for 2 years or is this the QB with a career stats of 102 TDs,56 int and 34 fumbles

No.. Its the Flacco that has never had a QB rating over 94% in regular season or completion % over 64 in the play offs.

Mardigras9 01-30-2013 08:24 AM

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A SB win would be a great bargaining tool.

SloMotion 01-30-2013 11:02 AM

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Yep, even Boomer agrees with the 'winning a SuperBowl' logic ... here he is lumping Stafford (Det), Ryan (Atl) and Flacco (Bal) all into the same category.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer Esiason, CBS analyst and former Bengals QB
Stafford is in the same class of quarterback as Atlanta's Matt Ryan and Baltimore's Joe Flacco, a group of guys that "until they win a Super Bowl, people are not going to get off their backs."

Read more here: Former quarterbacks say Lions' Stafford needs help | NFL (AP) | Latest news and video on the ...


Jamessr 01-30-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 476476)
A SB win would be a great bargaining tool.

How?
He's a slightly better version of Alex Smith.

SloMotion 01-30-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 476535)
How?
He's a slightly better version of Alex Smith.

Because it's all about winning a SuperBowl when you're an NFL QB. You can put all the stats you want and not win the big one or be painfully average and do, but without a doubt, getting that ring elevates you to a status above your peers. :mrgreen:.

RaginCajun83 01-30-2013 02:29 PM

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I want a flying car, like Flacco's 20 mil neither are going to happen any time soon

FinSaint 01-30-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Well, Flacco has looked pretty good in the playoffs, BUT he has been immensely helped in that regard by the brilliant catches of Anquan Boldin, who has pretty much caught everything thrown at him.

atltillidie 01-31-2013 03:18 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Right now, only 4 quarterbacks deserve that much money.

Jamessr 01-31-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 476774)
Right now, only 4 quarterbacks deserve that much money.

Exactly..
And Joe Flacco isn't one of them even IF he wins a Super Bowl.

SmashMouth 01-31-2013 09:17 PM

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SloMotion 02-01-2013 06:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 476774)
Right now, only 4 quarterbacks deserve that much money.

Don't leave us hanging ... which 4?

QBREES9 02-01-2013 03:36 PM

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Say it ain't so Joe, 20 million

atltillidie 02-03-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 476900)
Don't leave us hanging ... which 4?

You know who they are.

Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady.

SmashMouth 02-03-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 477002)
Say it ain't so Joe, 20 million

He's got pretty good leverage right about now ....

SloMotion 02-04-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 477273)
You know who they are.

Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady.

:lol:, just checking to see if you might have included "you-know-who" in that debate.

You passed. :mrgreen:.

SloMotion 02-04-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 477277)
He's got pretty good leverage right about now ....

You may be right. He's got one or more playoff victories in every season since entering the league & now a SuperBowl MVP to boot. He doesn't dazzle you with brilliance, but he gets the job done. Kind of like the upgraded Tim-Tebow-model with a passing option, :lol:.

Nemesis 02-07-2013 05:14 AM

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He also doesnt make clutch mistakes. This just isnt about what we think he's worth. Its about what the Ravens think about searching for another QB . Top 4 money? no. More than Shaub types. Big Ben or Romo money at the least will be surpassed.

SloMotion 02-07-2013 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nemesis (Post 478165)
He also doesnt make clutch mistakes. This just isnt about what we think he's worth. Its about what the Ravens think about searching for another QB . Top 4 money? no. More than Shaub types. Big Ben or Romo money at the least will be surpassed.

11 playoff TD's without an interception this season. Yep, that's clutch.

K Major 02-07-2013 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 476476)
A SB win would be a great bargaining tool.

For sure!

TheOak 02-07-2013 01:17 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis (Post 478165)
He also doesnt make clutch mistakes. This just isnt about what we think he's worth. Its about what the Ravens think about searching for another QB . Top 4 money? no. More than Shaub types. Big Ben or Romo money at the least will be surpassed.

I beg to differ, while Flacco may shine in the playoffs he is inconsistent during the regular season.

Look at his game logs:
Joe Flacco Game By Game Stats and Performance - Baltimore Ravens - ESPN

His QB rating in Regular season is quite different from his Postseason QB rating.

Frikken Romo has a better regular season QBR.

K Major 02-07-2013 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478255)
I beg to differ, while Flacco may shine in the playoffs he is inconsistent during the regular season.

Look at his game logs:
Joe Flacco Game By Game Stats and Performance - Baltimore Ravens - ESPN

Frikken Romo has a better regular season QBR.

Its time for Dallas to start thinking hard about their future at QB. Romo is what he is... not very clutch when you need him to be.

TheOak 02-07-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 478267)
Its time for Dallas to start thinking hard about their future at QB. Romo is what he is... not very clutch when you need him to be.

He's a slipping clutch when your on an incline trying to get into traffic lol

Nemesis 02-08-2013 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478255)
I beg to differ, while Flacco may shine in the playoffs he is inconsistent during the regular season.

Look at his game logs:
Joe Flacco Game By Game Stats and Performance - Baltimore Ravens - ESPN

His QB rating in Regular season is quite different from his Postseason QB rating.

Frikken Romo has a better regular season QBR.


His agent could argue that his playoff performances werent anomalies, and an indictation of his progression as a QB. I remember Eli starting to get mentioned along with the elites the same way. The Ravens had a reshuffled OL along with other issues such as the firing of their OC that could've affected his performance at times. They were a couple plays away from making repeat SB appearances, and it wasnt despite Flacco being at the helm.

As previously stated, I think he should be paid more than Romo and Shaub. Shaub rarely carries the team if they cant run to set up the play action and air game, yet I think Flacco does when he's unleashed in marquee games. He can be just as good as Big Ben. Flacco's teammates such as Suggs always stand up for him in public. Im sure Romo's squad is on the fence about him, and you know it's bad when someone like Bradshaw calls Big Ben an idiot. Flacco is a model player with still I think an upside.

atltillidie 02-14-2013 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478255)
I beg to differ, while Flacco may shine in the playoffs he is inconsistent during the regular season.

Look at his game logs:
Joe Flacco Game By Game Stats and Performance - Baltimore Ravens - ESPN

His QB rating in Regular season is quite different from his Postseason QB rating.

Frikken Romo has a better regular season QBR.

Agreed. The best qbs are good on a consistent basis.

atltillidie 02-14-2013 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 478267)
Its time for Dallas to start thinking hard about their future at QB. Romo is what he is... not very clutch when you need him to be.

Romo is a good qb, but it's beyond me as to why he chokes in big games all the time.

Jamessr 02-14-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 479924)
Romo is a good qb, but it's beyond me as to why he chokes in big games all the time.

managment and coaching...

QBREES9 02-14-2013 11:19 PM

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You need to play the season. Not just the playoffs.

SmashMouth 02-16-2013 12:35 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
Anybody else want $20 million?

QBREES9 02-16-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Flacco wants $20 million
 
What he wants, and what he's going to get is a big difference. Hey ain't no DREW BREES !

Nemesis 02-20-2013 02:23 AM

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Brady has a 16-0 record that Illl bet he'd trade for Flacco's ring. The postseason is just when you find out if your QB has the balls to carry your squad, and is showing enough development to make an investment into . Flacco deserves Eli money


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