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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; So.. I am honestly asking. Do you think its a better chance his play has dropped off in the last two years because he was in Philly or because he has been playing for 10 years and lost his step... ...

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Old 03-15-2013, 01:49 PM   #171
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So.. I am honestly asking. Do you think its a better chance his play has dropped off in the last two years because he was in Philly or because he has been playing for 10 years and lost his step... Ive heard a lot of what I call experts (that have participated in this game from playing to coaching to FO) say he has lost a step or two at 30 Yo.
I think it's a combination of both. But even if he's lost a step or two, it doesn't mean he still can't be pretty good.

With 8 years in the league before he went to Philly, he had to have known how the place was..
There's a big difference visiting a place as opposed to living there. And at the end of the day, money talks... and it was a lot of money. I've moved to places before knowing exactly how the place was(crappy), but did it anyways because of the money. I was miserable... and eventually moved back home for less.

He also does not play special teams anymore, which I think lowers his value even more.
If you think that way, then his price tag should be even more dampened... lowering the risk factor. That said, if I signed Nnamdi, he's not playing special teams.
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I am of the opinion that after Jim Johnson died in 2008 (Eagles last deep playoff run) they never replaced the guy. Eventually the horrible defense play and mid-season defensive coaching shuffle contributed to Andy Reid getting canned.

Great read: Eagles Must Find The Next Jim Johnson - SB Nation Philly

As for Asomugha, the past 3 or 4 times I saw the Eagles play the past couple years I didn't key in on him, but he started. I also felt like the Eagles had talent on their defense, a big beefy d-line, quick DB's, and they played like they were stoned or something. Watching both the Dallas and Atlanta games last year was almost laughable for the Eagles D as a whole. Been proven that giving a veteran a new team can get him to perform again. He is only 31 so he has a good 3 to 4 years left in him.

Remember, Nnamdi is a local (from Lafayette, LA) so it would be a great place to close-out his career.

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I am of the opinion that after Jim Johnson died in 2008 (Eagles last deep playoff run) they never replaced the guy. Eventually the horrible defense play and mid-season defensive coaching shuffle contributed to Andy Reid getting canned.

Great read: Eagles Must Find The Next Jim Johnson - SB Nation Philly

As for Asomugha, the past 3 or 4 times I saw the Eagles play the past couple years I didn't key in on him, but he started. I also felt like the Eagles had talent on their defense, a big beefy d-line, quick DB's, and they played like they were stoned or something. Watching both the Dallas and Atlanta games last year was almost laughable for the Eagles D as a whole. Been proven that giving a veteran a new team can get him to perform again. He is only 31 so he has a good 3 to 4 years left in him.

Remember, Nnamdi is a local (from Lafayette, LA) so it would be a great place to close-out his career.
I knew he is from Lafayette, I am from Abbeville.. I suppose I am starting to agree with the feeling that some are stating in regards to any FA's... Maybe it is time we look for youth and start building something long term.

Picking up players with only a few years left means that every few years we are going through this same exact cycle...

I stopped buying anything but Deuce jerseys because of that LOL.
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I['m not going to blame Nnamdi Asomugha or anyone on the Eagles defense for the issues. Mainly I'm going to blame Juan Castillo for never having coached the defensive side of the field when he took over. He made good folks look bad and was NEVER able to bring that defense together
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I['m not going to blame Nnamdi Asomugha or anyone on the Eagles defense for the issues. Mainly I'm going to blame Juan Castillo for never having coached the defensive side of the field when he took over. He made good folks look bad and was NEVER able to bring that defense together
Weren't the Eagles Defense near 8-10th in the league when he got let go? The offense never gelled.

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2012 they were middle of the pack.. 15 overall I think
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2012 they were middle of the pack.. 15 overall I think
Ohhh how would have loved to have that awful 15th ranked defense in 2012
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When I mentioned earlier about why Nnamdi's counting stats weren't there as a Raider... here is the evidence.

So for the next hour, we sat and watched Nnamdi Asomugha. Baldinger had already gone through the tape earlier in the day. He pointed out how Asomugha locked down receivers, one-on-one, how he used his long arms to jam them at the line. He bumped them and kept them from getting into their routes. He destroyed the timing between the quarterback and the receiver. Only three balls were thrown to his side. None were completed.

“That’s a clinic on how to play the corner,” Baldinger said.

It only confirmed what I had heard and read about Asomugha. He had allowed just one touchdown pass in three seasons. There were only 13 passes completed on him in all of the 2010 season. So when the Eagles signed him in July, 2011, it made perfect sense to think it was a great move.
That's right... 13 completed passes. 1 touchdown in 3 years.

So how did it go so wrong?

Well, it didn’t help that he walked into an Eagles defense that was in a state of disarray with a miscast Juan Castillo serving as coordinator. They were playing a tricked-up front (the wide nine) and trying to fit three Pro Bowl cornerbacks into two spots, which meant Asomugha found himself playing more zone defense. He looked confused and uncertain playing in space. The geometry of the game – the angles he took to the ball, the angles he took to make a tackle – was different.

In Oakland, Asomugha played almost exclusively on the outside, one-on-one with a man right in front of him. He didn’t have to read or adjust; he just had to stay with his man. It was a good fit for him with his height and long arms. He played it so well that teams did stop throwing the ball to his side. He had eight interceptions in 2006 and just three in the next four years combined.
How did Nnamdi Asomugha's skills erode so quickly? | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Backs up the majority of what I discussed earlier. System, etc.
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Does anybody else get that feeling that the lack of news towards Nnamdi means that he is more likely to end up with the Saints
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:34 PM   #180
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Not really as we haven't brought him in for a visit yet. We know he's at least visited the 49ers.
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