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frankeefrank 04-20-2013 02:04 AM

I want Geno Smith
 
I think the kid is an amazing QB prospect.
Arm.
Accuracy.
Acumen.

We likely won't take him, but it made me wonder...
Sean Payton willl inevitably bring in a capable young QB.
Walsh had Young, Reid had Kolb...
Who, When will our next guy be/come?

lee909 04-20-2013 02:08 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Why sign a player to sit for the at least 3 years and waste the value in the rookie deal.We dont need to sign/draft this year or next.

frankeefrank 04-20-2013 02:17 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Why?
https://www.google.com/search?q=aaro...ient=firefox-a

That's why

lee909 04-20-2013 02:32 AM

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And yet Luck,Wilson,RG3 have proved you dont need to sit for a few years prior to starting.We have millions locked up in a QB for at least three years and have little cap room to play with because of that,we are not in a position to draft a QB to sit with holes in the O-line and all over the defense.A LT,OLB,CB,ILB,S are far more valuable to us for the next few years.
Lets say you draft Smith he sits for three years then gets to start.He has two years on his deal and then if he does well you need to pay out a big contract to keep him.Sign somebody in two years and he sits for a year and has four years on his deal still.The saints are in a better cap room to get free agents.

FinSaint 04-20-2013 03:42 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Pass...

Shoe. 04-20-2013 06:46 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
So our defense sucks, we have Drew Brees, but we should go QB in the first? And backup QB at that? Whatever you're smoking, grab me some too next time lol

xan 04-20-2013 07:43 AM

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If that was the only problem....

No amount of logic, however twisted or convoluted, with extra dollops of juicy rationalizations, can come to the conclusion that Geno Smith is an option.

Seer1 04-20-2013 07:53 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Can he block? Can he tackle?

SaintsBro 04-20-2013 08:32 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Liking a player, and thinking he's a good fit for the team, are two different things.

jeanpierre 04-20-2013 08:38 AM

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Geno Smith? That's who the kids that suck will draft and why they will be picking early again...

ClintSaints 04-20-2013 09:44 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
I have one word:

No.

hagan714 04-20-2013 09:46 AM

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football IQ is key.

SmashMouth 04-20-2013 09:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 495673)
football IQ is key.

And not enough of it here... And it's too early for an earlier draft pick.

voodooido 04-20-2013 10:16 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
My IQ has dropped 10 points just reading this thread. I wasted 3 minutes and I want them back.

lumm0x 04-20-2013 11:02 AM

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Geno Smith is one guy I can see being out of football in 3 years. Vince Young 2.0

lsutigerfan 04-20-2013 11:45 AM

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Damn, I just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading this crap.

Rugby Saint II 04-20-2013 01:14 PM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
He's not even an option for me at this point in time. We have too many needs that we need to fill now.

NOS2SB 04-20-2013 02:09 PM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
You're retarded.

dbonlilv14 04-20-2013 02:18 PM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Ill pass. In my honest opinion, I don't think he will be starting for anyone any time soon.

I could be wrong though.....

Jamessr 04-20-2013 03:35 PM

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This is just like the other 100 threads about who will replace Drew Brees....

TheOak 04-21-2013 06:01 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 495635)
And yet Luck,Wilson,RG3 have proved you dont need to sit for a few years prior to starting.We have millions locked up in a QB for at least three years and have little cap room to play with because of that,we are not in a position to draft a QB to sit with holes in the O-line and all over the defense.A LT,OLB,CB,ILB,S are far more valuable to us for the next few years.
Lets say you draft Smith he sits for three years then gets to start.He has two years on his deal and then if he does well you need to pay out a big contract to keep him.Sign somebody in two years and he sits for a year and has four years on his deal still.The saints are in a better cap room to get free agents.

Which season are we going to tank to get a top 3 draft pick? :P

homerj07 04-21-2013 06:41 AM

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No. Not an option. Especially this year

vpheughan 04-23-2013 02:47 PM

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The same reason the Packers "wasted" a draft pick on Aaron Rogers.

st thomas 04-23-2013 02:59 PM

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Not yet. There will be a time for that and its years away. The spread o is a fad it will be contained and were off to the next wonder of the world.

papz 04-23-2013 03:10 PM

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Geno Smith?

http://img10.glitterfy.com/graphics/...Fools_HAHA.gif

You're a funny man.


That's the only explanation.

voodooido 04-23-2013 03:56 PM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
It appears he may be falling out of the first rd.

frankeefrank 04-23-2013 07:18 PM

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Haha I love it...
Can't wait to be right... Just hope he doesn't end up to close to home

spkb25 04-24-2013 05:53 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 495632)
I think the kid is an amazing QB prospect.
Arm.
Accuracy.
Acumen.

We likely won't take him, but it made me wonder...
Sean Payton willl inevitably bring in a capable young QB.
Walsh had Young, Reid had Kolb...
Who, When will our next guy be/come?

He's not

Cruize 04-24-2013 09:42 AM

Re: I want Geno Smith
 
When people talk about the most valuable player available, the QB's have to enter the conversation. Yes, without any doubt, defense and OT are the most pressing needs. But, Brees's contract in two or three years, his age, his small stature, and his very high number of attempts which exposes him to hits, is a reality no one wants to talk about. In a perfect world, his contract, production, and health will work for many years. However, we don't live in a perfect world. McNown or Wallace will not win a game for Brees if he goes down. Barkley could. Smith could. Plus, they have great trade value as well. In my best case scenario, an impact player falls to #15. Next, the Saints trade down and trade Ivory and are able to grab OLB Collins early and QB Griffin late.

Jamessr 04-24-2013 12:02 PM

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It would seem Mickey Loomis, Sean payton and most of all Drew Brees need to check with people here to see how much longer he can play...
really this Drew Brees sh*t about his age, arm, contract is getting old....

voodooido 04-24-2013 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 496410)
Haha I love it...
Can't wait to be right... Just hope he doesn't end up to close to home

:stupid:

I hope you are speaking about being right on another post because there is no way you will be right here. He is FAAAALLLLLLLIIIINNNNGGGG to the late first to early second.

lee909 05-01-2013 10:43 PM

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Geno Smith's firing of agents, pre-draft actions shed light on why QB may have dropped
Y! SPORTS

Less than a week after the New York Jets picked Geno Smith in the second round of the NFL draft, the quarterback is still under great scrutiny in league circles.

Reports surfaced Tuesday that Smith fired agents Jeff Nalley and Eric Burkhardt of Select Sports Group. While Smith has publicly denied that it had anything to do with his falling out of the draft's first round last week, there are indications to the contrary.

Geno Smith speaks during the Jets' introductory news conference Saturday. (AP)On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group – his agents included – were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft. "I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches … he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

[More: Possible Top 10 for the 2014 NFL draft | Photos]

When Smith was asked on a radio show Tuesday about firing his agents, he claimed the decision wasn't based on when he was drafted. When pressed, however, he didn't give a reason.

"I don't want to shed too much light on it," Smith told SiriusXM NFL Radio. "The thing that I can tell you is that it's not because of the whole draft experience. It's not because of one particular incident. There's a number of things. And that story, you know, that battle will be fought on a different day. As of right now I don't feel too comfortable talking about all the details of it."

Smith did not respond to Yahoo! Sports' attempt to get a comment on the situation.

As for Select Sports, the firm issued a statement defending its work and wishing Smith well.

"We worked tirelessly for Geno Smith and all of our draft prospects," the firm said in its statement. "The NFL draft is unpredictable, and we prepared Geno and all of our draft prospects, as we do every year, about what can happen during the draft.

"Not only did we tell him that what transpired on the first day of the draft was possible, the question of whether Geno would be a first- or second-round pick was arguably the most talked about subject in the three months leading up to the draft. We wish Geno the best."

One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

[More: 2013 AFC draft grades | NFC]

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

Geno Smith threw for 4,205 yards for West Virginia last season. (Getty) "Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

Smith opened himself up to criticism when he told ESPN last Thursday that he wasn't sticking around for Friday's second round after getting bypassed in the first. Smith then changed his mind, saying Friday that he returned after his "supporters" convinced him to stay.

By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.

Two of the sources said how Smith reacts to things could be a major factor for him as he tries to take over for Mark Sanchez in New York. The Jets clearly want to move on after four years with Sanchez, including a league-leading 52 turnovers over the past two seasons.

QBREES9 05-06-2013 10:15 PM

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I want Geno Smith, to stay in New York with the JETS !!!!!


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