Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal

atltillidie · 07-28-2013, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Icomeinpeace

As a Falcons fan I think his contract was fair and exactly what anyone who doesn't have a better option available to sign or draft should expect to pay...lets be honest, the only QB's in the NFL that we would prefer to have over Ryan are not ever going to become free agents and last year's draft and the QB talent that came out of it is more of an aberration than the norm...it was the best QB class since the Marino, Elway class and there have been exponentially more busts than stars drafted in the first round as QBs...if you have a guy you can't replace you pay him big money.

Agreed, it just doesn't make sense to scrap a top 10 qb because he isn't elite.

|Mitch| · 07-28-2013, 08:17 PM

Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless...

Icomeinpeace · 07-28-2013, 08:20 PM

Ryan is far from stagnant...he showed the ability to connect on the deep ball for the first time since we drafted him and he continually makes the adjustments at the line of scrimmage that are the sign of an elite QB...lets not forget that Brees had 4 years on San Diego that he didnt show enough to them to be their starter and Ryan is going into his 6'th year and has proven to the team that drafted him that he has the potential to be the kind of QB Brees already is...to act like the only reason Ryan has had the sucess he has had over the past 3 years is because of his weapons is like saying the only reason Brees has excelled is because of having a great offensive coach to call his plays.

atltillidie · 07-28-2013, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

All I saw was Julio Jones put 'Young' Ryan on his back.

JJ is improving.

Ryan is stagnant.

Were you watching the same games I watched? You saw no difference from 2011 to 2012?

You didn't see how much better he threw the deep ball? You didn't see how much more mobile he was? You didn't see how much farther the team got?

2012 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

iceshack149 · 07-28-2013, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

A joke of an owner hires a bigger joke of a GM, who signs the biggest joke of a QB.

Poetic.

Yikes. Sounds like Saints fans- especially in the Aaron Brooks era. Just like those Saints fans of old, you're being a little too harsh. I completely understand the frustration.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

You're getting there.

A simpler way to put it may have been....

"He's not worth it, but what choice do we have?"

That's it exactly. Ryan isn't as bad as you think he is but he's not in the top tier of QB'S for sure. The Falcons don't have a better choice and if they lost Ryan it would set the organization back a few years. He is a good QB. They have a better chance with him than they do with whatever putz they can hope to get in free agency.

That said, the Falcons overpaid and everyone knows it. They were forced to pay him a higher salary because starting over with any other QB would scrap this season.
Also, Gonzalez almost certainly won't be back next year so the Falcons would lose two key players that had a big part of bringing the team a 13-3 season.

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless...

I'm enjoying their perspectives. It's part of why this board is so great.

SloMotion · 07-29-2013, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless...

Yeah, there's no newspaper lining the floor or bird droppings everywhere ... it helps clear their heads and form coherent thoughts ... it's why I hang around,

. Best board on the 'net, bet.

TheOak · 07-29-2013, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

He must have been throwing it around without knowing what it meant because it means 'now or never' and I feel like if we don't get it done this year, we'll still be a threat to win a title the next year. That's when I think it'll be now or never for us.

For Gonzo this is his second "now or never" season.

|Mitch| · 07-29-2013, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

With 'Mattiocre' at QB,

aka Skid Britches around here

07-28-2013, 06:34 PM	#51
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by Icomeinpeace As a Falcons fan I think his contract was fair and exactly what anyone who doesn't have a better option available to sign or draft should expect to pay...lets be honest, the only QB's in the NFL that we would prefer to have over Ryan are not ever going to become free agents and last year's draft and the QB talent that came out of it is more of an aberration than the norm...it was the best QB class since the Marino, Elway class and there have been exponentially more busts than stars drafted in the first round as QBs...if you have a guy you can't replace you pay him big money. Agreed, it just doesn't make sense to scrap a top 10 qb because he isn't elite.

07-28-2013, 08:17 PM	#52
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless... saintfan and SloMotion like this.

07-28-2013, 08:20 PM	#53
Icomeinpeace Rookie Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 9	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Ryan is far from stagnant...he showed the ability to connect on the deep ball for the first time since we drafted him and he continually makes the adjustments at the line of scrimmage that are the sign of an elite QB...lets not forget that Brees had 4 years on San Diego that he didnt show enough to them to be their starter and Ryan is going into his 6'th year and has proven to the team that drafted him that he has the potential to be the kind of QB Brees already is...to act like the only reason Ryan has had the sucess he has had over the past 3 years is because of his weapons is like saying the only reason Brees has excelled is because of having a great offensive coach to call his plays. atltillidie likes this.
Icomeinpeace Rookie Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 9

07-28-2013, 08:21 PM	#54
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan All I saw was Julio Jones put 'Young' Ryan on his back. JJ is improving. Ryan is stagnant. Were you watching the same games I watched? You saw no difference from 2011 to 2012? You didn't see how much better he threw the deep ball? You didn't see how much more mobile he was? You didn't see how much farther the team got? 2012 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN 2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN

07-28-2013, 08:53 PM	#55
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,085 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan A joke of an owner hires a bigger joke of a GM, who signs the biggest joke of a QB. Poetic. Yikes. Sounds like Saints fans- especially in the Aaron Brooks era. Just like those Saints fans of old, you're being a little too harsh. I completely understand the frustration. Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan You're getting there. A simpler way to put it may have been.... "He's not worth it, but what choice do we have?" That's it exactly. Ryan isn't as bad as you think he is but he's not in the top tier of QB'S for sure. The Falcons don't have a better choice and if they lost Ryan it would set the organization back a few years. He is a good QB. They have a better chance with him than they do with whatever putz they can hope to get in free agency. That said, the Falcons overpaid and everyone knows it. They were forced to pay him a higher salary because starting over with any other QB would scrap this season. Also, Gonzalez almost certainly won't be back next year so the Falcons would lose two key players that had a big part of bringing the team a 13-3 season. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless... I'm enjoying their perspectives. It's part of why this board is so great. SloMotion likes this.
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07-29-2013, 06:43 AM	#56
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless... Yeah, there's no newspaper lining the floor or bird droppings everywhere ... it helps clear their heads and form coherent thoughts ... it's why I hang around, . Best board on the 'net, bet.

07-29-2013, 06:45 AM	#57
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by atltillidie He must have been throwing it around without knowing what it meant because it means 'now or never' and I feel like if we don't get it done this year, we'll still be a threat to win a title the next year. That's when I think it'll be now or never for us. For Gonzo this is his second "now or never" season.

07-29-2013, 11:32 AM	#58
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Falcons and Ryan agree to new deal Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan With 'Mattiocre' at QB, aka Skid Britches around here

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