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nola_swammi 11-04-2013 12:32 PM

R incognito (Miami Dolphin scum) mssg
 
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

Richie Incognito of Miami Dolphins used slurs in messages to Jonathan Martin - ESPN

exile 11-04-2013 01:25 PM

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I'm not an advocate of violence. But that Incognito punk needs his.... (fill in your own blank).

saintsfan403 11-04-2013 02:34 PM

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Turbo douche strikes back

QBREES9 11-04-2013 02:57 PM

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"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

He needs to leave the NFL.

Danno 11-04-2013 03:08 PM

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Wow, I gotta think thats a bit of an uncommon form of hazing... just a hunch.

Bye bye Richie, and good riddance.

Garry42 11-04-2013 03:33 PM

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This story is not going to end well for Richie. All the talent in the world, just no brains!

Danno 11-04-2013 03:45 PM

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In no way am I condoning what that moron said, I'm just curious ...

If another black athlete had said this to him, would there be nearly as much outrage?

I'd hope the answer would be yes but I'm not sure.

exile 11-04-2013 03:45 PM

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He's done in Miami. Hopefully everywhere. Unfortunately I thought that the guy had turned a corner. Anyone else see the feature on NFLN on him? Painted him as a changed man. I guess not so much really. Interesting to see if any other Miami players get caught up in this as well.

"He's done," a ranking club source said Monday. "There are procedures in place and everyone wants to be fair. The NFL is involved. But from a club perspective he'll never play another game here."

Source: Incognito is 'done' on the Dolphins | Miami Dolphins In Depth

Crusader 11-04-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 544696)
In no way am I condoning what that moron said, I'm just curious ...

If another black athlete had said this to him, would there be nearly as much outrage?

I'd hope the answer would be yes but I'm not sure.

Forget the racial slur for a moment, if anybody sends me texts like that saying they'll kill me I'd be contacting the police.

Shoe. 11-04-2013 04:19 PM

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Seems like not much has changed with Richie. A real *** on the field, and apparently an even bigger one (and a lot more things) off of it.

Danno 11-04-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 544710)
Forget the racial slur for a moment, if anybody sends me texts like that saying they'll kill me I'd be contacting the police.

That part didn't bother me at all, since its obviously hazing. The racist stuff bothers me the most. I've had friends say they're gonna kill me numerous times. Even my wife tells me that occasionally, joking of course, I think...

exile 11-04-2013 04:45 PM

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Evidence. Tannehill leave Matt Moore alone!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYQZs3UCUAEWaB6.jpg:large

SloMotion 11-05-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 544710)
Forget the racial slur for a moment, if anybody sends me texts like that saying they'll kill me I'd be contacting the police.

What I don't understand is why do you wait 6-7 months after receiving a text like that to do something about it? That right there is an open invitation to kick someone's arse ... if you're not comfortable doing that, at least forward it to your employer for action and/or like you said, the police.

Incognito is obviously a jerk, but WTH was going on with Martin that he couldn't take any sort of decisive action to address a serious issue like that?

SaintsBro 11-05-2013 11:04 AM

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As is typically the case with people like this, the longer article reveals he has a laundry list of past incidents of aggression/violence/threats/bad behavior, prior to this, that were not properly addressed.

ETA @ SloMo -- apparently there was some kind of "lunchroom incident" last week, different from the messages, which prompted Martin to leave. Whatever that was.

exile 11-05-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 544869)
What I don't understand is why do you wait 6-7 months after receiving a text like that to do something about it? T

Mental abuse can take months or even years to finally take its toll. Trust me, I know. I have been married for quite some time.

nola_swammi 11-05-2013 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 544869)
What I don't understand is why do you wait 6-7 months after receiving a text like that to do something about it?

Incognito is obviously a jerk, but WTH was going on with Martin that he couldn't take any sort of decisive action to address a serious issue like that?


It started his ROOKIE yr (last year). being a rookie you think the stuff was common. Sure he probably wanted to kick RI arse but RI was set in a leadership role and his teammates followed RI. Martin is still young and being put in a situation like that how do you respond to stuff like that. place yourself in his situation; age 23(maturity level) loner (no friends) and the pressure that ri was placing on you (cafeteria prank by teammates). All he did was remove himself from a bad enviroment and his agent stood up for him by reporting RI.

lee909 11-05-2013 11:43 AM

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As you say he probably thought it was normal rookie year initiation pranks.Sounds like Incognito found a victim and just went after him knowing he would be backed up

SloMotion 11-05-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 544989)
As is typically the case with people like this, the longer article reveals he has a laundry list of past incidents of aggression/violence/threats/bad behavior, prior to this, that were not properly addressed.

ETA @ SloMo -- apparently there was some kind of "lunchroom incident" last week, different from the messages, which prompted Martin to leave. Whatever that was.

It's no secret the NFL employs violent, vile human beings, but yeah, it's not like the red flags weren't there with Incognito at Nebraska/Oregon, when he was at St. Louis, with Martin missing OTA's for personal reasons, et... For those reasons, I hold the Miami Dolphins organization just as culpable as Incognito in this ... you can't tell me someone didn't know what was going on. It's too bad none of Martin's teammates couldn't realize that it was getting out of hand and show some leadership by stepping in and addressing it. Incognito is probably some kind of 'roid-head as well, so you bring a few of your buddies if need be, but teammates don't let this kind of stuff go on.

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 545005)
It started his ROOKIE yr (last year). being a rookie you think the stuff was common. Sure he probably wanted to kick RI arse but RI was set in a leadership role and his teammates followed RI. Martin is still young and being put in a situation like that how do you respond to stuff like that. place yourself in his situation; age 23(maturity level) loner (no friends) and the pressure that ri was placing on you (cafeteria prank by teammates). All he did was remove himself from a bad enviroment and his agent stood up for him by reporting RI.

I've been in this situation a few times and I'm a firm believer that "people will do to you what you let them". Under no circumstances do you accept this type of abuse and you take your arse whippings (if need be) on/off the field until you make them respect you. I'm not getting snarky with you, but this ain't junior high school anymore and I'm kind of disappointed in a guy like Martin for not sticking up for himself, IMO. :neutral:

The NFL is starting to really piss me off on quite a few levels ... :burn:.

nola_swammi 11-05-2013 05:22 PM

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I agree he should kick his arse when the messages was left, but somehow he thought it had passed, new development happen with his teammates pranking him in the cafeteria ( I don't know what RI involvement in it but by RI placing a target on him I wouldn't doubt some weakling coming along to push @ him some more) How do you react to teammates choosing to alienate themselves from you?

Barry from MS 11-05-2013 07:14 PM

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Martin took it as long as he could, and finally broke down. Having to work and play next to that sub-human dips--t would break anyone.

The N word and the ol' "#2-in-your-mouth" and the ol' "slap yo momma" bit is pretty classy stuff. But if a classy dude like Dickie Incog says he's gonna kill you in a voice mail WITHOUT a shred of acknowledgement that it could be interpreted as foul or a "my bad, dude, I was completely wasted last night", exactly how do you handle that? Avoid, which Martin obviously did. Dickie has never displayed a sense of humor or is generally not known as a joking-kind of person...ever. "Disdain" is the best word I can think of considering how former teammates talk of him. Sorry, but Martin did what he could do any put up with it as long as possible.

Did I use the term "classy" right?

SloMotion 11-06-2013 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 545193)
... exactly how do you handle that?

When you got a person harassing/intimidating you on that level, it's up to the individual to check the harasser, IMO. If you can't do it physically, then report it. Avoiding it just encourages/emboldens your attacker and escalates the whole situation.

It's a sad case all around for everyone involved, :neutral:.

exile 11-06-2013 09:05 AM

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And the pages turn. I heard an interview with Kelly. He made some great points and good inside information. What befuddles me is that Incognito really seems to have the Dolphins locker room.

"Miami Dolphins coaches asked player Richie Incognito, who was the offensive line's undisputed leader, to toughen up teammate Jonathan Martin after he missed a voluntary workout last spring, multiple sources told the Sun Sentinel.
The sources told the paper they believe that Incognito, who is accused of using racially incendiary language and bullying tactics against Martin, may have taken those orders too far."


READ MORE: Sun Sentinel

Srgt. Hulka 11-06-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 545193)
Did I use the term "classy" right?

If classy means digusting and uncalled for, then yes, you used it correctly.

SmashMouth 11-07-2013 07:30 AM

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Incognito called Sapp the N-word during a game

TheOak 11-07-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 544710)
Forget the racial slur for a moment, if anybody sends me texts like that saying they'll kill me I'd be contacting the police.


Pretty much how i see it... I could care less about a name that someone calls me. You threaten my mother, I am coming to your house.

RaginCajun83 11-07-2013 09:39 PM

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Looks like each day something even more unbelievable seems to come out, hope this thing gets settled sometime soon

QBREES9 11-09-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 545549)
Pretty much how i see it... I could care less about a name that someone calls me. You threaten my mother, I am coming to your house.

Your right.


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