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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna He just wore out his welcome. He's not an organization first type of guy. He's a diva. Not the type you can't overcome, but I'm pretty sure Chip Kelly just got tired of hearing him chirp ...

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Old 03-31-2014, 06:55 AM   #21
 
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Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons

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He just wore out his welcome. He's not an organization first type of guy. He's a diva. Not the type you can't overcome, but I'm pretty sure Chip Kelly just got tired of hearing him chirp and I wouldn't be surprised if he was vocal about wanting Vick to start in the locker room. He's definitely a thuggish guy, but I like that. I don't doubt he's gang affiliated, hell, I grew up affiliated with Bloods my whole life and have no criminal record. Its A Cop Out To me.
WOW... you were part of this?

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WOW... you were part of this?

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Not at the extent of the LA versions, but I still have strong ties to it to this day. Close family members that I hang with daily. Friends I grew up. People I've met who just so happened to also be a part of it. Gang banging isn't AS bad as it is in Cali down here. But it can be depending on the people. I never went ahead and got jumped in or blessed in, but I've been heavily affiliated for over a decade. I mean, what color do I have on in my default. lol
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Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons

He was released because of quite a few things:

1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama.

2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism.

3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada...
You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards.

Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS.

Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk.

I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that.

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Re: Eagles release Pro Bowl WR DeSean Jackson after six seasons

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He was released because of quite a few things:

1. Every year he wants more money, Chip Kelly doesn't feel like dealing with that drama.

2. He is at the very least, immature. Part of a gang or not, throwing signs on National TV, social media is hardly indicative of maturity or professionalism.

3. "He isnt a bad guy", "hes never been arrested", etc... yada yada...
You haven't been bad until you are, you haven't been arrested until you are, you do not murder someone until you do... Fine. Aaron Hernandez set the tone for future gang bangers that refuse to sever their ties or at least keep them on the DL while in the league. Its a huge liability, and I am not aware or any corporation that would hire and pay someone $10m that is known to have ties with gangs and continues to publicly advertise that. It is one thing to be associated with corruption or criminal activity, its another thing when you are associated with people that kill and smile about it afterwards.

Too much of a risk. The Eagles released him to get ahead of all the BS.

Rez.. Here is the difference. I would hire you knowing you have a history and some ties. If your avatar was a picture of you throwing signs and you were posting pictures celebrating the prison release of one one of your friends while he is still wearing his prison t-shirt... Sorry bro, I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole... Not for $10m. To much of a risk.

I might hire you to drive trucks, but if you hung out with people that were known transporters of drugs and illegal weapons I would even hire you to do that.

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I was just brought up knowing how to separate your professional life and social life. I was born in New Orleans. The 9th Ward as you know. I went to elementary school were the racial demographics were 50/50 over here in Mississippi. I did a year of middle school were the demographics started to lean more in favor of blacks, and for the first time ever I began to consistently be in trouble. More because of who I hung around then what I was doing. The only thing that saved me was the fact the teachers recognized my grades were all A's, and were more lenient. We moved, and I finished my grade schooling career at a place were it was 90% white, and I never had any trouble at any point in time. And I'm not saying that to make it a racial thing, but only to make my point. That taught me how to deal with EVERYONE. Because everybody is different. I could blend. The white kids couldn't really understand how I talked. I learned to change that up around them. I didn't flash the gang banging ties around them or at the school because I knew it would only hold me back. Same goes for my music. I don't often reference the Blood ties because it only brings drama. So I agree with you in that aspect. It was dumb for Desean to throw up the C's (I'm throwing up in my mouth...ugh) in a game. But I think it was a heat of the moment, knee jerk reaction. Anybody who came up around that kind of goes back to that as a crutch when in a confrontation. Like a dog showing it's teeth if you will. Not to mention gangs have become more of a glorified part of Hip Hop, and EVERYBODY thinks they're in them now. It's a little deeper then what's seen on the surface. I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.
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I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.
Can you see the irony in that statement? There isn't a F'ing thing honorable about robbery, murder or dealing drugs.

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I was just brought up knowing how to separate your professional life and social life. I was born in New Orleans. The 9th Ward as you know. I went to elementary school were the racial demographics were 50/50 over here in Mississippi. I did a year of middle school were the demographics started to lean more in favor of blacks, and for the first time ever I began to consistently be in trouble. More because of who I hung around then what I was doing. The only thing that saved me was the fact the teachers recognized my grades were all A's, and were more lenient. We moved, and I finished my grade schooling career at a place were it was 90% white, and I never had any trouble at any point in time. And I'm not saying that to make it a racial thing, but only to make my point. That taught me how to deal with EVERYONE. Because everybody is different. I could blend. The white kids couldn't really understand how I talked. I learned to change that up around them. I didn't flash the gang banging ties around them or at the school because I knew it would only hold me back. Same goes for my music. I don't often reference the Blood ties because it only brings drama. So I agree with you in that aspect. It was dumb for Desean to throw up the C's (I'm throwing up in my mouth...ugh) in a game. But I think it was a heat of the moment, knee jerk reaction. Anybody who came up around that kind of goes back to that as a crutch when in a confrontation. Like a dog showing it's teeth if you will. Not to mention gangs have become more of a glorified part of Hip Hop, and EVERYBODY thinks they're in them now. It's a little deeper then what's seen on the surface. I think he's a Crip (throws up again), just not an active, banging Crip. And I don't think he ever put in work or anything like. Which is robbery, murder, or drug dealing for the set. Some people are just kind of honorary.

Perhaps I'll phrase it differently.

1. He's not bright. Only the hardest headed thug couldn't learn and play "the game" for $10m/year. Or the fakest wanabe gangsta.

2. If he threw C's out of emotion on national TV, he lacks self restraint and or discipline.

I figured out "work" with out the definition.

The math is dim+immature+emotionally driven = Accident looking for a place to happen.

Or

Maybe nothing at all

It's a $10m gamble...

Since you brought up "honorary member"... WTF? A fake thug? That life is what people turn to when they can't survive any other way. That's like me putting on dirty clothes with holes and hanging out in a soup kitchen... Or socialites buying Harley's, fake gang vests, and bandanas pretending to be bikers .... I don't understand some people.


Anyway.... You didn't use the word soldier and I appreciate that.

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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
Perhaps I'll phrase it differently.

1. He's not bright. Only the hardest headed thug couldn't learn and play "the game" for $10m/year. Or the fakest wanabe gangsta.

2. If he threw C's out of emotion on national TV, he lacks self restraint and or discipline.

I figured out "work" with out the definition.

The math is dim+immature+emotionally driven = Accident looking for a place to happen.

Or

Maybe nothing at all

It's a $10m gamble...

Since you brought up "honorary member"... WTF? A fake thug? That life is what people turn to when they can't survive any other way. That's like me putting on dirty clothes with holes and hanging out in a soup kitchen... Or socialites buying Harley's, fake gang vests, and bandanas pretending to be bikers .... I don't understand some people.


Anyway.... You didn't use the word soldier and I appreciate that.

I wouldn't say fake. Just not committed to throwing his life away. Marshawn Lynch is a gang member. I'm pretty sure it's way more then just those too. I mean, for the most part everybody could be considered a fake thug who comes from a bad place because that's the face you have to put on to survive. The fakest thugs shoot you down too. I learned that quick. But I don't want to focus on verbiage. I agree with you about him. He's me first. He's immature. I wouldn't put 10 million up for him as a GM. 6 or 7 though? I'll take my chances. He's proven us otherwise so far. I really feel like the gang **** is a cop out. He didn't just suddenly become a Crip in his 20's. That doesn't happen. That never will happen. No real gang member would allow that to happen.
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Can you see the irony in that statement? There isn't a F'ing thing honorable about robbery, murder or dealing drugs.

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It was the only word I could think of. We call it being "blessed in". But I agree with you. A lot of these dudes were raised by stuff like Scarface and Godfather as well as the local pimps and dealers. When you broke, you glorify the people who aren't. And I think most boys want to be the macho, bad ass, vigilante type guy if they could be. Idk man. Just giving y'all a different point of view. Discussion is healthy they say.
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It was the only word I could think of. We call it being "blessed in". But I agree with you. A lot of these dudes were raised by stuff like Scarface and Godfather as well as the local pimps and dealers. When you broke, you glorify the people who aren't. And I think most boys want to be the macho, bad ass, vigilante type guy if they could be. Idk man. Just giving y'all a different point of view. Discussion is healthy they say.

Discussion is healthy "They"say..... Cops, and DA's?

The thug throwing signs, acting macho, and raising hell isn't the one to worry about.... That's a decoy.

I've been broke, watched Scarface, and the Godfather a few dozen times. I grew up knowing Darth Vader as well. Didn't follow any dark path.
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Discussion is healthy "They"say..... Cops, and DA's?

The thug throwing signs, acting macho, and raising hell isn't the one to worry about.... That's a decoy.

I've been broke, watched Scarface, and the Godfather a few dozen times. I grew up knowing Darth Vader as well. Didn't follow any dark path.
Darth Vadar was the man though. The bad guy is usually the coolest. Lol.
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