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44Champs 10-05-2015 11:06 PM

N/S sort of - Weakest Jimmy Graham Block
 
We may miss him in the redzone, but to me, this one play exemplifies his poor attitude

Seahawks TE Jimmy Graham Sets an All-Time Weak Block Against Lions LB | Bleacher Report

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jnormand 10-05-2015 11:20 PM

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Lol. That was pathetic.

RailBoss 10-05-2015 11:37 PM

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What Jimmy calls Touch Football.

Tobias-Reiper 10-05-2015 11:57 PM

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Let... it... go.

It isn't "N/S sort of".. it is non-Saints. It is not news, let alone a revelation.

nola_swammi 10-06-2015 12:08 AM

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Hmm, Hicks should be happy that he out of N.O! I am glad you & him is out of N.O.

Crusader 10-06-2015 03:16 AM

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Yeah that was pretty darn bad. He is not even trying there.

He could atleast give this effort:

CheramieIII 10-06-2015 07:08 AM

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Jimmy Graham has become a non-factor since the trade. I think he was probably being a big mouth and not wanting to learn how to block and those are the reasons they decided to pull the trigger on the trade.

Mardigras9 10-06-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 673576)
Let... it... go.

Funny, when you look at Graham without Brees, you see just how good Brees can make you look.

RailBoss 10-06-2015 08:29 AM

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There is a lot more to the Jimmy Graham story that will eventually come out. In the mean time he's in Seattle and were not, time to move on.

RaginCajun83 10-06-2015 08:36 AM

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move on, he's not on the team anymore

saintsfan1976 10-06-2015 09:27 AM

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Different uniform, same result.

burningmetal 10-06-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 673609)
move on, he's not on the team anymore

I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy.

I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this.

BusDriver 10-06-2015 10:14 AM

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As often as the media says his name every Saint game some would think he is on the team. Hell I heard his named more than any other player the last to NFL games played.

RaginCajun83 10-06-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 673627)
I think it's somewhat relevant to note the struggles of a player who many people thought was a mistake to trade. They still try to say we miss him, as if somehow all of the other problems we have don't matter. It's all about Jimmy.

I don't revel in his struggles thus far, but I do think he is kind of validating the move. We talk about a lot of things that aren't saints related. I don't know why people are offended by this.

Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them.

burningmetal 10-06-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 673635)
Not offended, IMO all these Graham threads make it sound like some of the fan base is a bunch of scorn female teenagers who can't get past their first boyfriend dumping them.

Perhaps that's the case for some, but I really don't see anything unusual about it, overall. It seems to me that because he was a popular player, some people don't want to hear anything about him now that he's no longer on the team.

Other players who move on from us get all kinds of smack talk, and no one flinches. Like I said, it's relevant what Jimmy's doing (or not doing) when you consider how much whining is still going on about trading him in the first place. It'll die down...

homerj07 10-06-2015 11:50 AM

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Whoops.

brees84 10-06-2015 12:30 PM

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Crusader 10-06-2015 02:26 PM

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Its like family. You don't let a outsider mess with your brother but its ok for you to beat him senseless.

JG is now an outsider and he is talking smack about the Saints. Therefore he will piss people off.

Seahawks12th 10-06-2015 03:57 PM

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He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

dizzle88 10-06-2015 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 673709)
He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

halloween 65 10-06-2015 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 673709)
He is as soft as the Seahawks D said he is. You guys fleeced us in this trade, congrats.

Thanks for taking Puddin' off our hands, Unger is a stud, jurys out on our #31 draft pick Anthony in my opionion so far. But all in all, yeah you got fleeced.

Seahawks12th 10-06-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 673714)
We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

halloween 65 10-06-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 673714)
We all said it on the day of the trade.

Goes to show how well Payton used him in New Orleans, but he still showed his true colours often....whenever we needed a play or he had to be tough, he was nowhere to be seen.

Our WR Willie Snead is half Jimmy's size and twice as tough as him.

I'm loving Willie. Watching him come out of nowhere and play as well as he does is like a breath of fresh air for the O.

hagan714 10-06-2015 04:46 PM

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who here ever said or even entertained the idea that Jimmy was a blocker? he sets a mean pick and sets solid screens. that is it

that is why i lmao when jimmy got signed as TE and not a WR. Dude is the walking definition of a man without a position in the NFL.

The Dude 10-06-2015 04:51 PM

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Seattle fans are already fed up with him. From what little I saw (last half of 2nd quarter) they are really missing Unger too. Not that he is exactly all world for us, but he was in that system a while and had continuity with the other players. Lions defense were getting some great sacks and pressure.
I think we got the better end of the deal in the long run.

halloween 65 10-06-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 673719)
My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Good question. Depends on the F.O. We're cash straped now and 30 mill. just on Brees next season. Factor in age vs. extention+ hard call. But I will say if they don't try to surrond him with great pieces(O-line-G and T in particular) we want go far + our D has to at least be good so it might be a moot point resigning him. Then you roll the dice on a franchise qb.

dizzle88 10-06-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 673719)
My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?

Exactly, they did the same thing to Lance Moore and he became a Saints legend.

It's difficult to tell, the rookies we have on D seem perfect pieces to build upon - Kikaha, Anthony, Breaux and Damian Swann

In my opinion Payton refused to Address WR and Whilst Willie Snead has been a very nice surprise so far, teams can key on Brandin Cooks because at this moment in time, the names Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Josh Hill or Ben Watson do not exactly strike fear in opponents hearts. Hopefully Spiller finally getting healthy with play a big role.

Next offseason and draft will be key in my opinion, I believe it will be the continued process of retooling for life after Brees, which I think is the 2017 season - I don't personally see us resigning a guy that would be 38 Years old unless he looks completely dominant.

Tobias-Reiper 10-06-2015 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 673719)
My whole family thought Willie Snead was a find and of all places, the Browns practice squad. Man it must suck being a Cleveland fan. Having a talent like him and they are too blind to recognize it.

You do need a half-decent NFL passing QB to be able to recognize WR talent.

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So what is the mood here?? Blow up the team and start over or try to win with Brees?
Given what we have now, I think is a bit of both. Got 5-6 rookies starting on defense, some new players in offense, overall 20-some new faces.

ChrisXVI 10-06-2015 07:34 PM

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You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

Danno 10-06-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 673761)
You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

Not exactly, we used him about 50/50.

But WR's are never ever used as TE's.

He is what he is, a great pass catching TE that just doesn't excel at blocking.

44Champs 10-06-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 673576)
Let... it... go.

It isn't "N/S sort of".. it is non-Saints. It is not news, let alone a revelation.

If you dont want anything to do with this thread, then just skip iver it. It's that simple.

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44Champs 10-06-2015 09:08 PM

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I think it's somewhat ridiculous that people say "move on" about a player that was very relevamt to the team the last few years. Move on past the thread if you're not interested.

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skymike 10-06-2015 09:39 PM

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I think this is perfectly topical, because one of the HUGE topics we've had this year, was "what were we thinking when we traded away Graham?" And lot of people, including some of us, blasted the trade. Some of us, I believe were raising hell about it.

Lets dont kid ourselves. This not only answers some questions we had, but also gives you an indication that maybe our leadership does have a clue.

Its 'merica..

foreverfan 10-06-2015 09:54 PM

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Some just know more than others. :cool:

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ChrisXVI 10-06-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 673762)
Not exactly, we used him about 50/50.

But WR's are never ever used as TE's.

He is what he is, a great pass catching TE that just doesn't excel at blocking.

Not exactly. I don't recall Graham ever lining up with his hand on the ground as an in-line TE here. We argued that he was a TE because he lined up within a certain yardage of the tackle on x amount of snaps. But come on... We never used him as a real TE. DB's like Joe Haden were covering him last year.

burningmetal 10-06-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 673761)
You know, it's funny... Everyone criticized Jimmy for wanting to be paid like a WR, which was exactly how we used him. Now that he's actually playing TE he's horrible. Seems like Jimmy had a point after all.

He had an advantage lining up as a tight end OR slot receiver because he's getting covered by linebacker's and safeties most of the time. If he were a true WR, he wouldn't be quick enough to get open on corners. Don't believe me? See Jimmy vs. Aqib Talib a couple years back. And Talib isn't even a shut down guy. He's a play-maker who often gets burned.

Just because he can't block doesn't mean he wasn't a tight end. He had a tight end frame, with a skill-set (receiving-wise) that worked best at that position. The fact that he stinks at blocking just doesn't speak very well of him.

Tobias-Reiper 10-07-2015 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 673780)
If you dont want anything to do with this thread, then just skip iver it. It's that simple.

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But I do... tell you to get over it, and let it go.

1. He's not with the N.O. Saints anymore.

2. It should not come as any sort of news, surprise, or revelation to anyone that Jimmy Graham can't block: he had exactly 1 year of college football played when he got drafted by the Saints. In that year, he was never asked to block anyone. Up until this year, he has never, ever been asked to block anyone in the NFL either. How would he even know how to block, especially block players who have been practicing shedding blocks since H.S.?

The Dude 10-07-2015 09:32 AM

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Ray Lewis calls Jimmy Graham a 'queen tight end' | Sporting News



And more on Jimmy from Ray Lewis

SloMotion 10-07-2015 03:13 PM

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What's sad about the whole thang is, pretty much any of us coulda' held Travis Lewis (DET) out longer than that, :rolleyes: ... as for Ray Lewis' opinion, all I wanna' know is "What happened to the suit Ray? What happened to the suit?".


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