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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Lets see if Kap's Protest matter Upcoming trials: The case drew national attention last April with the release of a video of the encounter that was taken by a bystander. The video showed Officer Slager, 34, who is white, shooting ...

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Old 09-02-2016, 04:27 PM   #121
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Lets see if Kap's Protest matter
Upcoming trials:

The case drew national attention last April with the release of a video of the encounter that was taken by a bystander. The video showed Officer Slager, 34, who is white, shooting Mr. Scott, 50, after a traffic stop. Officer Slager had pulled Mr. Scott over for a broken brake light, and said he had fired because he feared for his life after Mr. Scott grabbed his Taser.

But the video showed Mr. Scott running away, and Officer Slager firing eight times, hitting Mr. Scott five times, according to the coroner’s report. The video also show Officer Slager planting evidence, attempting to drop the taser in the facility of Mr.Scott to collaborate with his false allegations.



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Old 09-02-2016, 04:40 PM   #122
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Last year West Monroe Police Department (WMPD) Officer Jody LeDoux fired his weapon at an unarmed homeless hispanic veteran Raymond Keith Martinez. He was indicted on charges of negligent homicide by a Ouachita Parish grand jury in January.

Martinez was shot in front of a convenience store on North 7th Street in West Monroe. LeDoux reportedly responded to a call from the store to have Martinez removed from the premises.

If convicted, LeDoux faces a possibility of up to five years in jail. Do you think 5 years worth a man's life!



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Racism only survives because people won't let it die. It was clinging to a thread just a few years ago. Then came Obama, determined to divide this country so he could bring it down. Well he hasn't quite succeeded yet, but we're teetering on the edge of it. People need to wake up and realize that we're being played like pawns, all of us. Our government is creating division where none existed and it's working because we let it. Everyone, whether black, white or f**king purple polka dotted has to stand up and say no more. Furthermore, we need to stop putting our faith in politicians who, even at their best are flawed, and put it back where it belongs - in God. The world isn't in trouble because of racism, terrorism or any other trumped up BS that the media tries to force feed us. We're in trouble because we've turned away from God and we're getting further away all the time. If each of us focused on doing what HE put us here to do to the best of our ability, we could change the world. I strongly suggest we each examine ourselves and just what have we done lately to honor our Heavenly Father. We're all going to have to answer to Him one day for what we did or did not do with the life He's given us. I'd like to be able to tell him I did the best I could to love the way He loves. That's really all that's going to matter at that point. I don't think He's going to be very impressed by political stances.

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Old 09-02-2016, 05:00 PM   #124
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This is not about racism, or blaming Obama. This issue was before Obama was born. People seem to always try to pivot the issue towards something else, now it's politics? No, people are tired, frustrated, and anger that evidence that can been seen by the naked eye, audio that can be heard from foolish individuals with high authority and no repercussion for those individuals. Like the old saying, which is TRUE! If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. This unpatriotic, selfish, need attention, political propaganda I will not fall for. Especially when I have much to lose, people don't know what lies around the corner, with all this abuse of authority it might just be your mother, father, brother, sister, son or daughter at the wrong end of a barrel.
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http://www.guns.com/2015/03/03/video...f-store-video/


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Hearings continued Tuesday for Jody Ledoux as the attorneys on both sides of the case work to throw out some of the evidence before the trial. Ledoux is facing a charge of negligent homicide.

The state called several people to the stand who claim Ledoux used excessive force or was violent with them. Donald Harger is the former Interstate Battery owner, he's the man who is shown in the video where Ledoux throws him into a rack of batteries.

The state questioned Harger about what happened and he stated he was never aggressive toward Ledoux and he just wouldn't comply. The defense countered trying to diminish Harger's credibility saying he has had several run ins with the law, and saying Harger has an aggressive history with people and cops.

Two others were also called to discuss their experiences with Ledoux saying he lied on their arrest reports. The state says their testimonies were meant to show Ledoux's pattern of retaliation and how he responds to people who aren't compliant.

The defense argued in those instances Ledoux never pulled out a weapon and these people weren't under the influence. They say it doesn't compare to what happened with Raymond Martinez.

A detective who talked with witnesses after the shooting in December 2014 was also called to the stand. He discussed how witnesses told him Martinez's stance wasn't seen as threatening, but for an officer seeing someone put their hands in their pocket is a bad sign.

West Monroe Police Chief Jeff Terrell was also called to the stand to discuss Ledoux's three years with the force, and how he's only arrested 110 people in that time.

The judge says he is going to make a ruling on the evidence by Friday and he is absolutely not going to move the date of the trial set for September 12th.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:20 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
This is not about racism, or blaming Obama. This issue was before Obama was born. People seem to always try to pivot the issue towards something else, now it's politics? No, people are tired, frustrated, and anger that evidence that can been seen by the naked eye, audio that can be heard from foolish individuals with high authority and no repercussion for those individuals. Like the old saying, which is TRUE! If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. This unpatriotic, selfish, need attention, political propaganda I will not fall for. Especially when I have much to lose, people don't know what lies around the corner, with all this abuse of authority it might just be your mother, father, brother, sister, son or daughter at the wrong end of a barrel.
Obama has done more to bring racism back to life than any corrupt cop or activist group ever could. Regardless, you missed the real point of my post, which is that we need to turn to God. Not people, not stupid protests or political posturing. He alone can fix this world, and we are supposed to be his vessels. If you can't see that then nothing you do or say will matter. Same goes for anyone.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:23 PM   #127
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.... and yet... I see no one fleeing the country in terror.

oh yeah... other countries dont have fat people on welfare, with big screen
tv's and air jordans. The benefits are too sweet here. but you hate it here.
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Regardless, you missed the real point of my post, which is that we need to turn to God. Not people, not stupid protests or political posturing. He alone can fix this world, and we are supposed to be his vessels. If you can't see that then nothing you do or say will matter. Same goes for anyone.
We (BLM) turn to god, he united us into(BLM) god using vessels (Kap, Reid, Lane, the media, etc..) soon this will end with prosecutions or maybe he have another plan to serve justice, I don't know, but he gave us a voice and we are using it.


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Old 09-03-2016, 02:48 PM   #129
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BUNCH OF NONSENSE!!!!

STOP THE KILLING OF THE INNOCENCT AND THEIR WILL BE NO PROTEST
Innocent? Are you talking about the 12.6% of a population committing 50% or more of the crime?

Not that Colin even understands the real issue. Bad parenting. Just by saying "His People" means he had decided long ago people are seperiated by race black/white/asian/etc.. By definition thats a racist.
What, Im not his people ? Theres Americans and his people? Im sorry who are these people Colin ?

Hope this doesn’t come out the wrong way, but always thought these kinds of problems stem from an unwillingness to talk about the real social problems. For fear of being called a racist. Why is 12.6% of a population committing 50% or more of the crime?
I dare say that if I was a cop and saw a white,asian, and black person running from a robbery, I would call in the other 2 but go after the black guy. I don’t consider it racial profiling. I consider it experience learned on a daily basis. Even the black cops do it.
Really seems to be a social problem to me.
The huge disproportion of crime in black communities has to be acknowledged publicly in order to deal with the problem, and the blame everyone else for your actions has to stop. Glorifying guns, thug life, and putting down women in songs should not be a celebrated thing.

I do not completely agree with all of the link below, but know the stats are pretty accurate, and it has some good comments at the end for people on both sides to think about. Couple of my black friend have had discussions on it.
FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?
FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

I remember my black friend Andrey when we hung out in college told me one day. “You see that security officer looking at me”, as we walked into a store. “yeah sure”,I said “why he looked at me also”. “Yeah, but thats was what I was talking about”. “I was taught he’s looking at me because I am black,” Andrey said “you were taught he’s just doing his job, you don’t even notice it.” “Thats the same hatred that fires the middle east, but no one talks about the parents or social up bringing.” Andrey like most of my friends had broken homes. I think something like 70% of black kids come from single family homes, thats crazy, and a break down of a family structure.
lol he also made me look like and idiot when I called him to see if he was going to the farrakhan million man march rally so we could go to dinner and talk old times. Andrey said “Really Chris ? Like I’d expect you to go to a David Duke Rally,” and I apologized.
Point is the fact that what I learned from him and other black friends, girl friends, is that there is a very big social problem on the black side of the fence thats never talked about, and its not going to go away with programs and throwing money and free jobs at it. Frankly Im not sure how to solve it. Im not that smart.
I’m guessing that some personally responsibility for your own actions, including parenting might be a good start. The vast majority of the american black population are brilliant, hard working, loving people, and I love they are a part of the united states. Would hate if I dint ever meet my friends.
I guess I’m just putting out there you cant blame everyone else for your problems. When so many of those problems are made by you. Just something to think about that I learned from my black friends.
The middle east is happening, I think, yes because Europe and Britain started it, but the parents are the ones teaching the hate, and for kids to throw rocks. Watching their friend shot by and Israel solder, because he wants to go home to his family that day, and a rock can kill, only affirms thats child hatred, and so it goes on and on and on.
Until people start talking about whats really happening, and we try to help eachother get over it. Until then, I do not see this kind of thing stopping.

Saying all this, its easy to see why Colin should keep his mouth shut. His ignorance on the real issues only makes the problem worse and dumber.

Not only that. Can you imagine if this is allowed to continue ? Whats next ? Players dumping tuna on the field to protest dolphines?
Showing up in bikinis to protest the miss america pagent ?
showing up in ewoke mask to promote the new Star Wars movie ?
Its simply not the place for it, and I dont feel like explaining theses idiots to my kid before the game. I came there to watch a football game.

This can get way out of hand.
Godell never does the right thing, and should have suspended him for 1 game.
Not for his view, but because he used his job to promote a view he knows very little about, and its not the place for it.
Protest like every one else. In the street on your off time.

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Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

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I made a joke earlier ,pg. 1 , about ColinK.
I think I made the point I believe he is wrong.

Why am I jumping in this mess to post my opinion when I already made mine in a sentence or two...
Some of ya'll comments are way off in left field....off subject. OJ? Really?
*I'll get to that later.
The US flag to me represents all of the men and women , White and Black, Other , who fought and died since 1776 to now, to make this country of freedoms that we all have. To disrespect the country's flag is to not honor all those people who fought and died for you to have the freedom and life here that you can have in this country. The words are important. It is an important, unitfying symbol of the U.S.A.
I say the pledge to the US flag and to the state of Texas everyday. Work related.
The US flag and the pledge unites people. It is a common link. The USA is not perfect. Where is it perfect? * I’ll get to that later.

Really, ColinK is contradicting himself. What he is doing is , is due to having those freedoms.
He is very confused. Troubled. I feel more sorry for him, no I don't!! No. LOL!! I can see why he is troubled and he needs to accept himself and be thankful for all he has and how his life turned out. Like some people have that White guilt thing , well, some people have Black guilt too.
I do believe his has some issues with being adopted and his White bio mom, who was not in his life, is out there now on twitter talking against him about sitting down and his Black bio father is unknown, I think. He is engaged to that radical woman. He grew up in a good family, just happened to be White, and lived a Mid Class lifestyle and in Wisconsin. Wearing Fidel Castro ,a Communist oppressor of the his people, was odd, crazy. CK tried to fit with some of the NFL's finest, LOL, the thuggish ones, and that was a mistake he made. Remember the incident a while back when he and some 49's and some trashy woman and she filed a lawsuit or something. Now he is turning Islamic. He is all over the place. He needs therapy. He needs to STFU too and stand up and salute this country and the people who fought then and now for him to have all these freedoms he has. His protest is in the wrong way. As for protesting, you, whoever, ColinK, can protest here in this country, unlike other places all you want for whatever. The price of tomatoes , Trump, Hillary, the police, whatever. Again, ColinK is misled.

Do you ever notice that the people against the police are the ones who need the police or the ones who can get the police and better access to the police? I left a post about that. Again, he is confused.
Racisms, ageism sexism, nepotism, classism, etc. , you will always have. I DID NOT say these things are right, so do not misread me. However, our flag and anthem represents our country and in our country, wrongs can change. You have a transparent justice system, laws for all, citizens being allowed as jurors, etc. Wrongs can change. You have the freedoms to change wrongs. You have rights here. Disrespecting the U.S. flag and anthem and THE country is not the way to protest or prove a point. CK is defeating his purpose.
He is doing like what 2 years old do when they do not get what they want and they just drop to the floor and fall out. Tantrum. The 2 year olds learn that tantrums do not work.

You guys and name calling each other and your views on other cases and bringing up OJ, way off subject. I said I would get back to that. In my opinion, OJ should have stayed with his wife instead of picking that 18 year. Opps, sorry . It is true.
I am not , NOT for DV. I think DV is very serious and pity those women in that situation who need help to get out. He killed that girl.
Then you guys are calling each other dumb and brining up OJ and are way off base.
Everyone brings something different here.
I am Black American, female , and Catholic. I am a big proponent of the Back to Africa Movement and the Back to Europe Movement and Back to whatever you come from or say you to come from or want to move to movement. Please go. Go live where it is better for you. The USA is not for you and the flag and anthem bothers you, go.
Me….ummmmm , The Middle East and Africa would not be so good for me.
Hmmmmm, Mexico is ok for the vacation places, but nooooooo. No thank you. I would not to live in Mexico. Well, where else? Eastern European countires…..eeehhhhhhh, NO! Not for me .No thank you.
Central and South America, again for me, NO!! Carribean vacation places are ok for vacations, but nah. Not a place there for me!!!
Hmmm, what places are left on Earth good for me? Western European countries, so-so. Good for a vacation, but not, nah, me living full –time for life and wanting my USA rights there, no. Too expensive and crowded in The UK and there is really that classism over there.
Swistezland! Oh, I am tens of millions of dollars short so that would not work for me.
Japan is expensive, tight and nah. Not for me. Australia, ehh, same as Japan. I like my rights here.
Well, what is left?
THE USA. I ‘m good. I am going to stay right here. nolaswami, burningmetal, who ever else here, ya’ll go. Move where ya’ll want to.
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