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vpheughan 08-28-2016 12:44 PM

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Wasn't he on "Injured Reserve" AKA "Paid Leave" himself?

lee909 08-28-2016 12:46 PM

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The NFL should not even consider stopping players speaking out if they feel the need. Im not saying i agree or disagree with his thoughts but surely the whole point of having freedoms is allowing people to use them. He made a protest that has caused no harm to anyone and at worst will affect his endorsements deals.

I despise our monarchy over here so in no way will ever sing the national anthem. Does that mean if a case like WW2 started up i wouldn't sign up,no of course not.

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lee909 08-28-2016 12:47 PM

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Forgot to add Kaepeenick would be better off concentrating on actually being a QB thsn making statememts at the moment though

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burningmetal 08-28-2016 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 714530)
The NFL should not even consider stopping players speaking out if they feel the need. Im not saying i agree or disagree with his thoughts but surely the whole point of having freedoms is allowing people to use them. He made a protest that has caused no harm to anyone and at worst will affect his endorsements deals.

I despise our monarchy over here so in no way will ever sing the national anthem. Does that mean if a case like WW2 started up i wouldn't sign up,no of course not.

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I don't think anyone, or at least not many, have a problem with allowing a player the option to express an opinion in some way. It's his opinion that is the problem. I don't believe that all opinions deserve respect. Some are just so misguided that you can't help but call the person out on it.

I've seen several comments from writers across the web, and heard people on TV saying that they support his right to free speech, or in this case, freedom of refusal... I guess. But all of these people are missing the point. He's being bashed because he's coming across as a whiner.

You said you hate your monarchy, and believe me, I can't stand our government here. But our national anthem here is not dedicated to the government, and bowing to their power. It's about freedom and those who fought for it. I'm not a very patriotic person these days due to the political corruption and overall dumbing down of our society. It's distressing. But the national anthem, to me, still represents what was and still could be great, again.

So for Kaep to use that as an opportunity to protest something, was in my opinion very disrespectful. And I thought his reasoning was downright wrong.

Danno 08-28-2016 02:20 PM

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He has the right to do it. Many great men died to give him that right

We have the right to be disgusted by his actions and have the right to call him out on it and protest his actions accordingly.

He's a freaking moron, but he's an American moron!!!

vpheughan 08-28-2016 03:34 PM

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He can "talk the talk" but won't "walk the walk".

Explain how your sitting is helping "the oppressed black people and people of color"? How "this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Bigger than football? If you really believe that then resign your position in the NFL, give back all that "oppressor" and "paid leave" money. Head to south Louisiana or Kokomo Indiana and help with the rebuilding.

RaginCajun83 08-28-2016 03:46 PM

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44Champs 08-28-2016 06:11 PM

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Here's an article reminding us of when Kaeperdick used the n word on the field and was fines for it. Personally, I also think it's ridiculous that the NFL doesnt require that players stand during the National Anthem. Those players should move somewhere else and see in what other country they can earn this much money

http://dailysnark.com/throwback-coli...black-players/

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Danno 08-28-2016 06:43 PM

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I think the NFL has the right to suspend him indefinitely, if they can punish a player for criticizing officials or racist comments, they can certainly suspend this moron for comments detrimental to the nfl brand.

The nfl is s private company and should be able to discipline accordingly.
Suspend his ass immediately. I'll applaud the decision loudly

jeanpierre 08-28-2016 08:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 714555)
He has the right to do it. Many great men died to give him that right

We have the right to be disgusted by his actions and have the right to call him out on it and protest his actions accordingly.

He's a freaking moron, but he's an American moron!!!

The above statements are pretty much the values that were part of my upbringing...

Always enjoyed this quote, which had been mis-attributed to Voltaire in an erred translation by Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

And while I still ascribe to the values the quote represents, there is pause...

We have come to the crossroads in this country's journey where corrupt minority malcontents, no matter the placations and compensations they receive have convinced ignorant masses in this country they simply can not be appeased enough...

Leftist demagogues have quietly sustained a coup of unaccountable mass media and tenured higher education disseminating their dogma as the high moral ground with a continued assault on the values laid forth by the Founding Fathers...

These malcontents throw upon themselves the veil of the oppressed in some Machiavellian scheme to attain singular, personal wealth while leaving those they claim to be a part of behind...

So at these crossroads it is time to resolve whereby the malcontents should be encouraged to depart this country, to take the wealth they've attained and seek their personal gratifications elsewhere...

For these malcontents have failed to pay the respect and appreciation for the sacrifices of blood, if not all, that has been given for them to have the quality of life they so richly enjoy yet fail to pay forward their part for that which they've suckled...


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