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Old 11-15-2019, 07:49 AM   #1
 
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Hey, look, there's a thug who plays for the Browns. Looks like everything is business, as usual, over there. What a train wreck they've become, in every way now. Not just being a bad team.

Some day, he'll play for the Bengals. The NFL's version of the convicts squad.
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I didn't think this was nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Yes, he swung his helmet and hit him in the head, that's horrible. People have done a lot worse and got suspended less than 6 games though. Worst thing I've ever seen was the Haynesworth stomp, and he only got 5 games. I know it's a different era, but still don't think this deserves 6 games.
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I didn't think this was nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Yes, he swung his helmet and hit him in the head, that's horrible. People have done a lot worse and got suspended less than 6 games though. Worst thing I've ever seen was the Haynesworth stomp, and he only got 5 games. I know it's a different era, but still don't think this deserves 6 games.
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The Steelers and Raiders use to do this in the 70s almost biweekly.
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I didn't think this was nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Yes, he swung his helmet and hit him in the head, that's horrible. People have done a lot worse and got suspended less than 6 games though. Worst thing I've ever seen was the Haynesworth stomp, and he only got 5 games. I know it's a different era, but still don't think this deserves 6 games.
Disagree. Rudolph was fortunate that it was only a glancing blow, if Garrett had a clear shot at him you're talking concussion for sure and possible brain damage. He swung it hard and those helmets are neither soft nor lightweight. I hope they suspend him for a long time to come. Rudolph's agent is considering legal action as well, I hope that happens too. If you wanna pull off a guy's helmet to throw a few punches, fine. Not the most mature thing, but it's not life threatening. This was on a different level altogether. He deserves severe punishment, he needs to be made an example of.
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Welcome to political correctness NFL 2020 style.
The Steelers and Raiders use to do this in the 70s almost biweekly.
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Yea, I just feel like as a society we're are evolving in this way where mistakes aren't tolerated at all. We tend punish people to the maximum in the name of humanitarianism, and we pretend as though people don't have all of these impulsive erratic emotions internally that they press down and repress from the world. Society as a whole is just hypocritical; a cesspool of sycophants who play the role of the egalitarian serviceman just to gain the default reputable standing.
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Man I don’t know what to make of all this. Rudolph gets pissed about a perceived unnecessary roughness by Garrett and tries to rip his helmet off. So then Garrett rips his helmet off and beats him with it. Just dumb ass stuff all around.
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Disagree. Rudolph was fortunate that it was only a glancing blow, if Garrett had a clear shot at him you're talking concussion for sure and possible brain damage. He swung it hard and those helmets are neither soft nor lightweight. I hope they suspend him for a long time to come. Rudolph's agent is considering legal action as well, I hope that happens too. If you wanna pull off a guy's helmet to throw a few punches, fine. Not the most mature thing, but it's not life threatening. This was on a different level altogether. He deserves severe punishment, he needs to be made an example of.
What do you think is more dangerous: Swinging a helmet and hitting someone in the head with it, or wearing a helmet and lunging into someones head/chin with it? Swinging the helmet like that is dangerous, I don't dispute that. The perfect swing could indeed cause brain injury. However, the way he swung it would be unlikely to cause significant damage. He hit him with the bottom of the helmet and he didn't really get a ton of velocity on the swing(there's a linear motion component to the the helmet and not a completely circular motion). Whether this matters or should matter in the overall punishment, I don't know. I do think players have done far worse and have gotten less punishment. For example, the Haynesworth stomp resulted in over 30 stitches in his head. This could have easily blinded Gurode(quite frankly I'm surprised that an eye didn't get hit by the motion that Haynesworth made) and caused all sorts of different complications. Haynesworth got 5 games for this. For the Garrett, just taking everything into account including the time period that we are in and how things are a bit harsher now.. I feel like 3 or 4 games would be about right. 6 games or more(if it goes into next season, that's just ridiculous) just seems excessive and I doubt that it was the result of a authentically objective viewpoint.
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