Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech

saintfan · 09-05-2012, 02:56 PM

God doesn't like the Dems?

SmashMouth · 09-05-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Yeah, and they can bus 'em to the polls too while they're at it. Oh, and they'll need an ID, but only to see the President. They'd never dream of asking for proof of ID to vote. No sir. That's preposterous.

That's very close to Eastwooding here, Saintfan! Here's is an empty chair to complement.

saintfan · 09-05-2012, 02:59 PM

"Eastwooding". It's a new verb! I LIKE it!

Mardigras9 · 09-05-2012, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You didn't get it? I'm going to have to work on my delivery.

I got you, looking into the future.

Cruize · 09-05-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And you partisan Democrats complain about just about everything except more handouts.

I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that.

saintfan · 09-05-2012, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that.

To be sure, I am not against helping people either. You must understand that the very programs you're speaking of WERE ILLEGAL, until the Progressives (read Liberals) re-wrote the Constitution in their own image.

The "New Deal", which is where most of these social programs got their start, was hotly contested and in fact was being struck down in lower courts. Roosevelt managed to replace two key Supreme Court Justices who would see things his way. It was not voted on by the people. It was not OF the people, and one can question whether it was actually FOR the people.

Since then, not a single bill passed by Congress has been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme court. NOT ONE. Not even Obama care, which is just about as illegal as it gets - FORCING Americans to buy a service from public companies? They had to call it a tax to get it through, even though the bills namesake, Obama, proclaimed "No New Taxes" for 250k or less earners. Still the waffling Justice thought long and hard and determined what was really meant was a tax.

Can you not see that the fix was in? It's as clear as tropical water. It's not even worth debating. And what's worse is that is does NOTHING to fix the real problems with health care!

If you're really about honoring the Constitution let me ask you this: Are you interesting in honoring the Constitution, or are you interested in honoring the liberal interpretation of it? This is a VERY BIG difference. For clarity, do read the Constitution and also read the Federalist Papers. If you do you will be forced to decide whether you really do honor what the Founders in amazing brilliance created or our Government post Roosevelt's "New Deal". You either come down on one side or the other. You cannot have it both ways.

Danno · 09-06-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that.

I've never been without a job since I was 16. I've never received one penny of Goverment assistance in my life, but if I had to I would. If I needed help to survive I'd humbly ask for it. I'd then do my best to pay it back. I'm not against a safety net, I'm against a safety hammock designed to create a dependet class of Government slaves.

Why do liberals insist on more and more handouts that aren't necessary? Why do liberals insist that others pay for them? Why do liberals insist on replacing the family structure with a Goverment mommy and daddy? It creates dependency and poverty and destroys entire communities.

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

Continue to give him fish, has no reason to fish on his own.

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive - Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson

09-05-2012, 02:56 PM	#11
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09-05-2012, 02:58 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,364 Blog Entries: 22	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech Originally Posted by saintfan Yeah, and they can bus 'em to the polls too while they're at it. Oh, and they'll need an ID, but only to see the President. They'd never dream of asking for proof of ID to vote. No sir. That's preposterous. That's very close to Eastwooding here, Saintfan! Here's is an empty chair to complement. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook! saintfan likes this.

09-05-2012, 02:59 PM	#13
saintfan Site Donor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 9,541 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech "Eastwooding". It's a new verb! I LIKE it! Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

09-05-2012, 03:05 PM	#14
Mardigras9 Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 2,426	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech Originally Posted by saintfan You didn't get it? I'm going to have to work on my delivery. I got you, looking into the future. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

09-05-2012, 06:54 PM	#15
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,103	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech Originally Posted by Danno And you partisan Democrats complain about just about everything except more handouts. I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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09-05-2012, 08:09 PM	#16
saintfan Site Donor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 9,541 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech Originally Posted by Cruize I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that. To be sure, I am not against helping people either. You must understand that the very programs you're speaking of WERE ILLEGAL, until the Progressives (read Liberals) re-wrote the Constitution in their own image. The "New Deal", which is where most of these social programs got their start, was hotly contested and in fact was being struck down in lower courts. Roosevelt managed to replace two key Supreme Court Justices who would see things his way. It was not voted on by the people. It was not OF the people, and one can question whether it was actually FOR the people. Since then, not a single bill passed by Congress has been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme court. NOT ONE. Not even Obama care, which is just about as illegal as it gets - FORCING Americans to buy a service from public companies? They had to call it a tax to get it through, even though the bills namesake, Obama, proclaimed "No New Taxes" for 250k or less earners. Still the waffling Justice thought long and hard and determined what was really meant was a tax. Can you not see that the fix was in? It's as clear as tropical water. It's not even worth debating. And what's worse is that is does NOTHING to fix the real problems with health care! If you're really about honoring the Constitution let me ask you this: Are you interesting in honoring the Constitution, or are you interested in honoring the liberal interpretation of it? This is a VERY BIG difference. For clarity, do read the Constitution and also read the Federalist Papers. If you do you will be forced to decide whether you really do honor what the Founders in amazing brilliance created or our Government post Roosevelt's "New Deal". You either come down on one side or the other. You cannot have it both ways. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook! SmashMouth likes this.
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09-06-2012, 08:40 AM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort Alabama Posts: 10,982	Re: Dems bring in crowds by the busload to fill stadium for Obama speech Originally Posted by Cruize I've been blessed. I'm 48 years old and have never taken any type of government assistance. Can you say the same? That includes unemployment in case you didn't know. And if you have, you deserved it because you lost your job through not fault of your own. One of the safety nets that separates our great nation from most around the world. I absolutely don't have a problem with my tax dollars going to those less fortunate than myself in America. What I do have a problem with is our tax dollars by the billions being sent around the globe with the idea of providing food, clothing, healthcare, and education to other nations peoples, while the Republican party wants to deny the same assistance and services for American citizens. That makes no sense to me! In my opinion it's unconstitutional and certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. On top of that, the foriegn aid usually ends up in the hands of corrupt governments who in use that money to oppress it's citizens instead of helping them. I certainly will always complain about that. I've never been without a job since I was 16. I've never received one penny of Goverment assistance in my life, but if I had to I would. If I needed help to survive I'd humbly ask for it. I'd then do my best to pay it back. I'm not against a safety net, I'm against a safety hammock designed to create a dependet class of Government slaves. Why do liberals insist on more and more handouts that aren't necessary? Why do liberals insist that others pay for them? Why do liberals insist on replacing the family structure with a Goverment mommy and daddy? It creates dependency and poverty and destroys entire communities. Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. Continue to give him fish, has no reason to fish on his own. I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive - Thomas Jefferson I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook! saintfan and SmashMouth like this.

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