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this is a discussion within the Poli-Sci Community Forum; In case you have not checked... since apparently this is only an issue when Republicans are in office.. Getmo is STILL open. Hows that for a campaign promise....

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:40 AM   #1
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For the Liberals

In case you have not checked... since apparently this is only an issue when Republicans are in office..

Getmo is STILL open.

Hows that for a campaign promise.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:30 AM   #2
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LOL. Romney has that covered. He has been for and against everything at one time or another.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:55 AM   #3
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In case you have not checked... since apparently this is only an issue when Republicans are in office..

Getmo is STILL open.

Hows that for a campaign promise.
This was never a promise he could keep. Of course a lot of people who knew nothing (and still don't) about that situation bought it at face value. A typical campaign promise with no possibilities for success.

This is a good example though of why I'm so down on voters in this country. I'm reminded of the song "Cult of Personality" while I watch the marketing campaigns trying to sell their products.

And I'm not sure which makes me more ill - the marketing or the people who take it seriously.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:32 AM   #4
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Well, libs (including the press) never cease to amaze me as to how they appear totally blind to offenses by Democratic officials.

On the issue of Libya, one thing really strikes me as odd. US law holds that a CEO of a corporation can be held legally accountable for failing to enforce EPA, OSHA and other federal regulations. The CEO doesn't even have to be aware of the infraction because it is held that as CEO he should be aware or establish sufficient company policies and practices to ensure that federal regs are upheld.

In the event an employee his killed on the job, the CEO and other company officieals can be charged for negligent homicide. In cases where a serious safety issue has been repeatedly reported and ignored the CEO can be charged manslaughter. In the most severe cases charges of third degree murder (a third degree murder is defined as a killing that resulted from a depraved heart or extreme recklessness) can be filed.

I recall the press calling for charges to be filed against Tony Hayward (BP CEO) over the Deepwater Horizon incident even though there were no documents indicating that he was aware of the safety issues on the rig.

The President effectively serves as CEO of the United States. How then can he not be responsible for the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and the three embassy staffers in light of the recently exposed documents. In light of the Aug 15, 2012 cable the US shoudl have immedialty pulled out of Beghazi and possibly Libya. I understand that that the Preseident cannot be charged while in office, but he can and should be held accountable.

So, where is the outrage. Why is it only the families of the dead and conservatives asking the President to tell us what he knew and when did he know it. This doesn't require an eight week investigation. What happened on the ground in Bengazi is important but less so that what happened on the ground in the White House on 9/11/12.

Until such a time when I hear the press and liberals showing some real outrage over these types of incidents, just shut the f*&# up about the other side because you have no credibility.

None.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:50 AM   #5
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The people have spoken. Four more years in power and a rejection of everything Republican. How's that for credibility? But hey, keep listening to Faux News for your "credibility." Wouldn't have it any other way.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
In case you have not checked... since apparently this is only an issue when Republicans are in office..

Getmo is STILL open.

Hows that for a campaign promise.
dude wow...good for you, really. i'm quite irritated about that for sure. however, romney has many more concessions before i could go for him - he's unlikeable and damn near unelectable - pathetic choice for the GOP, surely you can admit that.

completely agree about gitmo though. something else, since you're clearly conservo, check out the education (if you care) issue w/ obama and student loans...not pleased about that as well.

*shock* i'm informed?! yes, yes i am...anyone else?
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:02 PM   #7
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The people have spoken. Four more years in power and a rejection of everything Republican. How's that for credibility? But hey, keep listening to Faux News for your "credibility." Wouldn't have it any other way.
The people have spoken, and have decided jobs, healthcare, home ownership and any kind of chance at a normal life don't matter to them.

Where does republican credibility come into play here? Who has been in office for the last 4 years? Your "man" is the one responsible for this, and is merely proposing more of the same, rather unabashedly. I think the credibility issue clearly lies with the liberal and so-called independent voters who ignored all of the devastating decisions obama has made, and decided they were more concerned with sticking by party lines.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #8
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dude wow...good for you, really. i'm quite irritated about that for sure. however, romney has many more concessions before i could go for him - he's unlikeable and damn near unelectable - pathetic choice for the GOP, surely you can admit that.

completely agree about gitmo though. something else, since you're clearly conservo, check out the education (if you care) issue w/ obama and student loans...not pleased about that as well.

*shock* i'm informed?! yes, yes i am...anyone else?
I don't see where Romney is unlikeable. I'm not a Mormon, but other than that I think he's a very genuine man. I don't agree with 100% of what he has to say, but there isn't a politician alive who fits that description. Mitt has run business, and has been successful. He has always had a solid, balanced budget as governer, and when it's come to passing bills, or laws, he does in fact have a track record for working with both sides. So even if it's been something his own party might disagree with, it at least shows he has an open mind. Ultimately, politicians are supposed to work for the people. That means they are supposed to listen to the people, even if they don't agree.

That doesn't mean you should make an irrational decision if people are asking for something crazy, but you should be able to work with them.

obama has consistently rejected any idea not born of his own mind. That's always a disturbing thing. I wanted to see a man in office who knows how to manage money. Government is not business ,per se, but how it manages money is absolutely essential to businesses. You must have leadership with an understanding of how to manage business, even if they haven't run one. Even a basic understanding of economics, however, would be an improvement over what we're stuck with now.

Instead we have big government, throwing money around whimsically. Instead of letting a failing company go bankrupt and work it's way out of it, they throw money at them and say "here's a gift for your failure", while small businesses are saying "what's left for us?". And there go our jobs...

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:56 PM   #9
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I will never forgive Obama for this:

The Vick phone call. He calls a convicted felon to congratulate him on his release. This is a person who the Federal Government still regards with prejudice! A person who costs us over a million dollars. He was still playing football in prison on our dime. Never mind calling the people who were re-habilitating those dogs. Never mind thanking the officers who broke the case.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:10 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by saintfan View Post
This was never a promise he could keep. Of course a lot of people who knew nothing (and still don't) about that situation bought it at face value. A typical campaign promise with no possibilities for success.

This is a good example though of why I'm so down on voters in this country. I'm reminded of the song "Cult of Personality" while I watch the marketing campaigns trying to sell their products.

And I'm not sure which makes me more ill - the marketing or the people who take it seriously.
Because politicians are vultures that prey on the needy, the ignorant, and the gullible. Anyone who doesn't fall for their bullsh1t get labeled.

Ive said this on FB to may friends and family and offended quite a few...

Anyone that strongly believes in their candidate in this presidential race is as blind to reality as a three year old watching Barney (the purple one, not Frank)...
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