Cruize

More of the same failed right wing garbage.

dam1953

Danno. I think it's the Kool-Aid those guys drink.

Like Hulkster, my take is Obama won because 50% or more of the voting public are so heavily dependent on gvmt. Couple this with a TV media that is effectively the democratic party's version of PRAVDA. (Cruize: FYI PRAVDA was the Communist Party's "independent" press in the days of the Soviet Union. It was Pravda's job to tell the public that the Soviet Union was a utopian society while the capitalist countries was starving to death. Pravda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The fact that CBS failed to post the Obama interview after the Benghazi attack until the day before the election yet spent weeks airing critical reports on Romney's comments about the event is just the most recent piece of evidence. Since this is a football forum let's use a football analogy. The current state of affairs would be like choosing referees from the Atlanta sidelines for this week's Saints game.

I'm looking forward to four more years of blaming Bush.

dam1953

I think the following quote describes yesterday quite well.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." – Alexander Tytler

Beastmode

When I was in Afghanistan in 08 Obama told us to our face he'd stop the war. I guess he was right since he didn't say when. And drone attacks, there is plenty of data out there to prove it throws octane on the situation. The drones create collateral damage, there is no way around that fact. All it takes is one suicide bomber seeking revenge to kill scores of innocent people. It's really simple math here; we kill innocent people and they kill more, taking out some of our Soldiers along with them. I wish I could go back to that day in Jalalaabad and ask him one question, when?

Instead, he focused all his energy on healthcare which was a tertiary issue to get votes. He got what he wanted but the price is the destruction of full time jobs. Employers are getting around it by cutting hours. So now we have a never ending war, massive part-time jobs, and no real plan to create sustainable full-time jobs. The only plan he has is to keep printing more money until we run out of trees to keep this divided country from falling apart.

TheOak

There was no mandate... Not being reelected with less of a % than you were first election, against a candidate that was a marginally better option than McCain.

Here is my take:

This nation is so drunk with "being heard" that they will vote for sh1t just to say they voted. You should vote on props and bills that is a YES/NO vote... I can not cast a consolation vote in good conscience, and refuse to pick one turd over the other just because that is all i am offered. These political tickets for the last 15 or so years give me no YES option... All I can vote is NO/NO. I am not going to "give someone else a chance to screw things up" just because they are different.

After I buckle into my seat and the flight hits 30k feet, I am offered fish or fish, no thank you ill sleep and hope the next flight has beef.

As far as "working together", Obama is even more polarizing than Bush was, and he should look in the mirror before he lets "work together" come out of his lips.

Just say NO to voting on candidates until one is worthy of your vote.

Crusader

I have to agree with SloMo here, the biggest republican downfall in this election was the lack of a good candidate but also the lack of a good message, saying "As president I wanna do this" isn't enought, you need to say HOW you gonna do it and make people believe you too. If GW Bush could have ran again I think he would have taken Obama to the cleaners.

What strikes me is how negative the campains have been, seems to me like most of the focus is placed on painting the opponent as the devil instead of getting your own message across. Parts of it I would personally just call pure slander.

I do however think there will be an economic upswing during Obamas second term. Mainly because a reccession can't last forever, economic principles in themselves will eventually dictate a change for the better. Not fighting 2 wars at the same time will help your spending tremendously.
The costs of the 2003-2010 Iraq War are often contested, as academics and critics have unearthed many hidden costs not represented in official estimates. The most recent major report on these costs come from Brown University in the form of the Costs of War project,[1] which said the total for wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan is at least $3.2-4 trillion. Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Compare that cost to the cost of PPACA (Obamacare): "In 2012, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected PPACA will require more than $1.7 trillion in gross federal spending over the period 2012–2022, some of which will be offset by penalties and tax increases related to coverage, resulting in net spending of more than $1.2 trillion for the insurance portion of the bill. However, this is only a partial accounting for the impact of the bill, excluding some offsetting expense reductions and revenue increases that result in a net deficit reduction." Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You kids get off my lawn!

Cruize

So.........Republicans stated on day one of President Obama's term to obstruct everything, did so at RECORD levels, all in hopes of winning last night's election, our countries progress be damned in the process, and yet President Obama is polarizing? LOL. Could you be in more partisan denial?

foreverfan

THIS SHOULD SCARE THE CHIT OUT OF ALL OF US!!!

The Eight Stages of a Democracy



1. From Bondage to Spiritual Faith
Do we forget how young of a nation we are? Europe had shaped and reshaped itself so many times before we were even put on a map.
England ruled the young America, not with whips and chains, but with taxes. The people weren’t allowed to build a strong nation because all the money they made was sent back to England. In the beginning, they were cool with that.


They were running from Europe so they would have the right to serve the God of their choosing and the manner in which they would serve that God. To them, at least in the beginning, the sacrifice was worth it. But that didn’t last long because Spiritual Faith is life altering.

2. From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage
Now, you have spiritual people who fully believe God has their best interest at heart and that translates into the building of courage. Not in just this case, but in every case. Once you let God into your life, you begin to feel like you can move mountains. When you trust and have faith, fear seems to melt away.


3. From Courage to Liberty
This may seem funny but the courage you get from God makes you want to fight. O.K. maybe I didn’t say that right. The courage you get from God makes it impossible for you to allow someone to block your blessings. There, that’s better.


Our founding fathers knew we could not prosper with England at the head of our lives. We had to be a nation that put God first, then country, then family.


So NO! We will not bow to your Queen, we will not allow you to rob our country of it’s chance to be great, and no we will not allow you to dictate the lives of our children and grandchildren. We have God on our side and will fight for what we feel is right.


And that’s what we did. We fought and won our independence, our freedom, and our Liberty.


4. From Liberty to Abundance
And once you put your faith in God and walk through the fire without fear, you receive your blessing. And can’t we all agree, America has been blessed. We sprouted from a young nation into a world leader in record time.


Industry flourished, businesses developed, and the Economy became the envy and standard of the world. We fought amongst ourselves, defended our friends and allies, and built the strongest military force on the planet. We adjust and change our laws, while still adhering to the basic principles of our Constitution.

But all this comes with a price.

5. From Abundance to Complacency
Complacency- self-satisfaction, especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers and deficiencies. I think this came around the time of the Great Depression. The New Deal. The belief started to creep in that we had the money to do anything. People were hurting and wanted immediate help, so they turned to the government and the government answered.


We’re temporarily going to give out Social Security benefits, just to get people by until things get better. We’re going to set up Medicaid and Medicare to help the underprivileged and elderly, who just can’t afford healthcare. These are just temporary steps to get us through these hard times.


When did they end Social Security? They didn’t. No politician is going to advocate taking services from the poor and the old. Plus, now government has a huge money supply from all the taxes they collect for Social Security. Great way to get money from you to borrow against for other Government projects.


As the government continued to grow, so did it’s hold on the mind of the American people.

6. From Complacency to Apathy
Apathy- lack of interest or concern; indifference
Now, we believe we can not fail. We pushed the Nazi’s back and crushed Russia, what could go wrong? The age of drugs spread through America and people stopped caring. It was better to protest than to put yourself into a position to run for office. It was better to make love than resist the up and coming war in our own backyard, the ever growing size of government.
Then, one morning we awoke and realized Government played a role in every aspect of our life. We pay taxes from the moment we get up in the morning to the moment we go to sleep at night. They can tell your teenage daughter it’s O.K. to get an abortion without telling a parent. They can even take away your land and cite “eminent domain”.


And we threw our hands up and said “F it”. It’s nothing we can do, the government runs everything. And we stopped listening, we stopped paying attention, and we stopped holding politicians accountable for their actions. We allowed ourselves to be scared of the Government instead of making the Government scared of us.


This is were it gets really scary.


7. From Apathy to Dependence (WE MADE IT HERE ON ELECTION DAY)

This is were we are right now. We were so indifferent and complacent, the first person to come along and promise us the pot at the end of the rainbow, we jumped. This once God loving nation is starting to worship the Government instead.


The same God that gave our forefather’s the strength and courage to fight is being contested at every turn. God teaches us to rely on him and then on ourselves and the Government doesn’t like that. The now enormous Government, needs to keep feeding itself and it needs your complacency to do it.


They need you to not care they are taking over private industry. They need you to look away while the let the printing press run. They need you to worry about Nancy Pelosi, while the Federal Reserve consolidates power. And there’s only one way that could happen, if you are dependent upon them.


If you can’t keep your house without the Government, then you don’t care how they do it. If you can’t eat without the Government, you don’t care where your food comes from. If you can’t see a doctor without the Government, you don’t care how much it will cost future generations.
We have become the nation of ME, Myself, and I and then anyone else that’s poor. They got us right were they want us, completely dependent on the Government to make the economy work, to solve our individual financial woes, and to just give us that tingly feeling.


Guess what the last step is?


8. From Dependence to back into Bondage
This is what I don’t understand about America today. There was a time in our history where people were given jobs, houses, food, and healthcare. It was called SLAVERY!


Master controlled everything about the lives of their slaves. They picked the winners and losers, the house nigga and the field nigga. They assaulted those that would protest against their actions. They told their slaves when they could and couldn’t procreate. They picked which part of the pig the slaves got to eat.


Now, the government is starting to enlist the same tactics. They pick which people can get their homes refinanced or modified. They pick which companies are to big to fail and which one’s aren’t worth saving. They release terror list for Americans, AMERICANS, that would question the direction of their country. And with Obama’s full support of Planned Parenthood and his plans for national healthcare, population control won’t be far behind.


And we’re letting it happen. We are putting our heads in the sand and all our faith in a Man. A man that came from Chicago politics. A man that has an entire cabinet full of tax cheats and people who at one time or another have been under investigation. A man that down plays Christianity abroad and refuses to pray in front of a nation audience.


We’ve passed the 200 year mark but we’re still progressing straight back to Bondage. The Government never gives up power. All the power the current Government is stacking will now be the norm, how can it get any bigger? It will and they will want more money to make it happen.


But before they come after more money, they will come for our guns. Mark my words. The American people are different from those in the past. We will always believe in our right to protect ourselves.


When the social spending fails and the Government is knocked down a peg, the people at the top will tell us it’s in our best interest to let them handle it. The question will be, will we go back to God and develop the Great Courage to bring our country back from the brink or will hold out our arms and allow the government to attach the chains?

The Best is Yet to Come.

saintfan

You are, BY FAR, the most blindly partisan human being I have ever encountered.

If the Republicans are worth their salt, they will continue to block the liberal agenda at every turn. What you call 'progress' is the continuing demise of the founding principles.

Obama is far and away the most polarizing President in our lifetime.

Beastmode

He has 98% of the black vote. That's as polarizing as it gets in that department.