What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

I'm curious as to peoples opinion on the matters of abortions, death penalty and euthanasia. I feel that they are linked togehther but not neccesarily intertwined.

Can you have one withouth the other? What are the legal and moral impications? Should religion play a part in the matter?

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Abortion: Only legal in cases of rape & incest; child is going to be deformed/mentally retarded; mothers life is in danger.

NEVER to be used as a birth control!

Death penalty: 100% for it

Euthanasia: Don't like the idea of it but I understand why people want the option.

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

May I ask why only under those circumstances?

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Euthanasia - Suicide. A freedom... As long as Life Insurance doesn't pay out why should anyone care about the legality of a person deciding it is time to go?

As far as assistance in the action, if a person wants do do it. They should be the one that does it. If you can find Kavorkian and convince him to help you, you have the power to do it on your own. Don't be a puzzy, do it your self. No one should profit or make a dime from it.

No church or politician should decide that it isn't for you.


Capital Punishment - And eye for an eye. If someone that is bat-sh1t crazy, and walking the streets then there is a flaw in our system. If someone is that dangerous they do not belong on the streets, much less spend time in prison and get RELEASED!

People want to talk about people with guns intentionally killing people? How about a system that knows and has proven that someone is a murderer and figures x amount of years is punishment enough and they should be allowed to walk the streets and kill again.

Our justice system has killed more innocent people than privately owned assault rifles.

Abortion - It is not a question of whether the act is right or wrong. Its a question of whether it is better to force a child to be raised by a mother that doesn't want it... That's the REAL question.

Aborting a fetus is morally wrong but forcing a child to spend 18 years in an environment where its mother doesn't want it, abuses it,mistreats it, is morally sound ground?

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Agreed 100% on all three. These are the common sense non-agenda responses that should be accepted by everyone - and pretty must IS accepted by those who aren't trying to force their own agenda.

We are a dying breed sir.

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Euthanasia - Its still killing someone, even though its technically killing yourself. I'm seriously conflicted about this because in extreme circumstances where the person has no chance to live without severe and unbearable pain it seems the humane thing to allow.


Capital Punishment - Against it. Its murder and I'm not comfortable with it at all. The fact that murderers get out early or even get out at all is irrelevant to the death penalty decision. Those are problems with our system and have nothing at all to do with whether the death penalty is right or wrong.

Abortion - Wow where to begin? I guess I stand with most churches that agree only in the instance of rape, incest or possible death of the mother.

With rape, the woman did not get to choose. It was forced on her.
With incest, I just don't know. While its consensual (I guess), there are issues with the health of the baby.

Concerning the mother's health, I can certainly see where it would be unfair to force someone to risk their own life for the sake of another.

Now the justification for killing a baby because of a bad mom raising an unwanted child holds no water with me whatsoever. Adoption by loving parents is an option that blows that nonsense out of the water. I could not disagree more with that issue. And people change. A bad person at 18 is not necessarily a bad person at 21.

I've known people that "didn't want it" at a young age that now regret that decision more than any decision they've ever made in their entire life and it haunts their soul the remainder of their lives. They know they murdered someone, and it was their own child they killed. There is no greater suffering than that my friend.

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Taking a human life
In regards to your reply in Euthanasia and Capital Punishment - Both are taking someones life. Viewing them both in that light is a slippery slope.

War is murder/killing/taking someone else's life, are you prepared to stand in front of 250,000 + American Soldiers and make the statement that you condemn what they have or will do? War is the ultimate catch 22 for condemning all of it as murder or flat out wrong. Vietnam vets were called murders and baby killers when they returned from war.

There are instances where taking one life saves many others, in both times of war and peace.

If those criminals that take someones life in cold blooded murder are locked up FOREVER, never seeing the light of day, no TV, no internet, no chance to ever touch a blade of grass outside of a prison then maybe we can talk no Capital Punishment... However I still have issue with the fact that that convicted murder has taken a life than can never be returned, he has violated the rights of someone that can never get them back, he has caused tortuous pain and scarring to the families and friends of his victims. He should be put in a cell and burden innocent tax payers to the tune of a million+?

Our legal system is screwed due to liberals believing that criminals have rights beyond food and shelter. So given the option of putting someone to death that has taken innocent life, or putting him in a prison where he could POSSIBLY be released and take a child's innocent life which could you live with?

Keep in mind recently firemen were killed while trying to save someones home by a guy that killed his grandmother with a hammer and then was released.

Sooner or later a hard stand has to be made and it is justified to come at the cost of a murder's life and not an innocent.

Abortion
Abortion is ultimately a rights issue - Depending on how you look at it there are either 1 or 2 people involved. If you do not view a fetus as a person then your stripping the Mothers rights. If you view the fetus as a person then one or the others rights are being violated.. Difficult conundrum from a rights point of view.


Here, ill muddle it up for you a little more. Protect a fetus from the mother but endanger a pregnant woman and fetus by releasing killers?

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Why should a person that has murdered someone, get to live, while their victim is rotting in a grave?

Why should my tax dollars be used to feed, clothe and house an individual for 20, 30 or 40 years? How long has Charles Manson be in prison? You don't think that the POS that killed the people in the Colorado movie theater or the children and teachers at the school deserve to die for what they did?

Liberals try to salve their conscience by saying that a fetus isn't life until it reaches a certain stage of development. My argument to that is when a human female is pregnant, she will give birth to a human baby; not a puppy, or kitten, or rabbit.

Our society has regressed/degenerated itseld to the point that we have developed 'Morning After' drugs, for people that get drunk/stoned, have sex, get pregnant and then regret it.

Why should the baby have to pay the ultimate sacrifice for that person'e stupidity/carelessness?

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

Euthanasia - When reasoning about this I start ffrom myself. Say I would get a terminal illness that in the later stages causes a lot of pain and takes away all quality of life or if I was in an accident and became paralyzed. If that happened I would want to get put away. It would be important that I was still clear at mind and could make my own decision about it. I think an adult should have the right to end his or hers life, that shouldn't be someone elses decision.

Capital Punishment - It was abolished in Sweden in 1921 in peactime and 1973 during war. The last execution took place in 1910 and was also the only execution in sweden using the guillotine. I am for the capital punishment in certain extreme cases, serial killers, massmurderers or certain extremely brutal murderers.

Abortion - I would personally never want the abortion of a child I helped create even if it was by mistake. But I don't want to deny anyone else that freedom. I don't think there should be any restrictions except the ones we have in sweden today, must be before a certain week etc.

Re: What should be legal? Abortion, death penalty, euthanasia
 

I had a dicussion about abortions today with a man who is a devout christian. It was quite interesting but he was hellbent on abortions being wrong on the merit of the commandment saying "Thou shalt not kill". I told him that while I can't argue with that notion, not everybody is a christian and believe in the same things you do. And I told him I think the choice must be there for every individual on their own and myself being a christian I try hard not to judge others but to leave that to the lord. That made him stop and think about it.