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Missed The State Of The Union?

this is a discussion within the Poli-Sci Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak I'm curious, what 'all the money' did he spend with zero approval? That point is fairly moot however. Based on your reply your ok with what Obama is doing based on what his predecessors did? Wasn't ...

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Old 02-14-2013, 10:52 AM   #21
 
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Re: Missed The State Of The Union?

Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
I'm curious, what 'all the money' did he spend with zero approval? That point is fairly moot however.

Based on your reply your ok with what Obama is doing based on what his predecessors did? Wasn't Obama elected to do the opposite?

While W did start a grass fire with his LIBERAL actions, Obama has taken it to full blown global burning Armageddon.

Interestingly enough you agreed about how terrible the state of things are now and Obama was elected precisely to correct that... Reality is that he has tripled the damage and there is a lot more coming.

Now, that being said. It would be such a breath of fresh air if liberals would focus on present issues and not attack conservatives personally, and keep repeating "W", "W",..... Finger pointing resolves nothing, and claiming we are in the deep quagmire of sh1t we are in is because of someone else doesn't help get us out of it.. does it?

Unless you are willing to concede that Bush was genius enough to put the country into a situation that no one on the left side of the aisle is smart enough to get us out of?
Isn't it ironic how the libs spend us into oblivion and the demise of this country with nary a thought into actually fixing it with responsible spending practices, this what normal every day Americans do daily.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:00 AM   #22
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Isn't it ironic how the libs spend us into oblivion and the demise of this country with nary a thought into actually fixing it with responsible spending practices, this what normal every day Americans do daily.
OMG...

What was the surplus when Clinton left office? What was the deficit when W left office? Who spent trillions of dollars on two wars that YOU thought was for terrorism? You might want to rethink things if you think you are being given the straight poop from the right.

BTW...you might want to check with the thousands of moms and pops who are now short an offspring because they were off fighting wars that were not being fought for the reasons we are/were being told they were being fought, in my and millions of other American's minds.

Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

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Old 02-14-2013, 11:10 AM   #23
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Who spent trillions of dollars on two wars that YOU thought was for terrorism? You might want to rethink things if you think you are being given the straight poop from the right.

BTW...you might want to check with the thousands of moms and pops who are now short an offspring because they were off fighting wars that were not being fought for the reasons we are/were being told they were being fought, in my and millions of other American's minds.
From the right? LMAO...

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is using and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:11 AM   #24
 
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Re: Missed The State Of The Union?

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OMG...

What was the surplus when Clinton left office?
Thanks to Gingrich and a non-Democrat Congress, there was less spending.... and you're welcome. At least Clinton learned and actually reached out to Congress, unlike this current disaster in office whom is using the Constitution as target practice.

Meanwhile Senator Reid has yet to pass an actual budget in all of the years PRESBO has been in office. And also btw.... as soon as PRESBO took office, he and his Dems controlled Congress, Pelosi and Reid, increased spending by over 25% across the board and never looked back. Why can't they go back to 2008 spending levels? Just doing that would go a long way. No one is interested is fixing this nor the media shedding any light, shamefully.

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Old 02-14-2013, 11:17 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
Thanks to Gingrich and a non-Democrat Congress, there was less spending.... and you're welcome. At least Clinton learned and actually reached out to Congress, unlike this current disaster in office whom is using the Constitution as target practice.
And don't forget the dot com bubble, which collapsed after he left office.

Thank god for Newt and the Republicans. They killed Hillary's Obamacare and reined in spending. Too bad they started acting like Democrats when GW took office.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:20 AM   #26
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C'mon fellers. Some people cannot be reached. Let's just cull the herd and move on, shall we? lol
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C'mon fellers. Some people cannot be reached. Let's just cull the herd and move on, shall we? lol
I dunno, I think LB is willing to listen and learn. Some others... not so much.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:28 AM   #28
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I dunno, I think LB is willing to listen and learn. Some others... not so much.
1 out of 2 ain't bad. I do listen.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:30 AM   #29
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C'mon fellers. Some people cannot be reached.
Now that is funny. I feel exactly the same way!!!
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:25 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
Isn't it ironic how the libs spend us into oblivion and the demise of this country with nary a thought into actually fixing it with responsible spending practices, this what normal every day Americans do daily.
What's funny is that they ignore the hard questions, and continue the personal attacks.

What's ironic is that they all pull the trigger calling is Bu****es, and nothing could be further from the truth.

Their talking points have not changed in ten years! Bush.... War.... Bush..... War....
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