Missed The State Of The Union?

Saint_LB · 02-14-2013, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Their talking points have not changed in ten years! Bush.... War.... Bush..... War....

You left out "Oil"...and "rich people want to get richer at the expense of our country and their tactics are to convince 51% of the common Joe's that they are one of them"

saintfan · 02-14-2013, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Now that is funny. I feel exactly the same way!!!

I knew you were a gonner with the whole "balanced budget" thing. Libs who pay attention - and granted there aren't many - don't even go there because it's bunk and they know it.

Liberal Democrats are the big spenders - and our current POS (that's piece of **** if you're wondering) is the record setter among them. Check your history - and you'll need to go a bit further back than the 80's...

TheOak · 02-15-2013, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

You left out "Oil"...and "rich people want to get richer at the expense of our country and their tactics are to convince 51% of the common Joe's that they are one of them"

Reality check. EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else.

Well, except our government, they just fire up the ink jets and print what they need.

Saint_LB · 02-15-2013, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Reality check. EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else.

Anybody can make any comment they want on MB's...that's what makes it so interesting...but just because you say that doesn't make it so.

Have you ever noticed those little metalic looking reflector dealies that separate the lanes of a highway...the ones that have red reflectors to let you know you are going the wrong way? Did you ever wonder who makes those things and how rich is he?

I don't think he is getting rich at anyone else's expense.

I agree that everyone wants to get rich, and I also acknowledge that as of this date I have not accomplished that goal. That is probably the main reason that I do not support a political party that seems to be a fraternity for the rich.

As I stated previously, all of my observations come from my 59 year old simple brain. I do not let anyone else talk me into feeling some way...all of my opinions have been based on my simple observations. I guess that is a way of saying I could be wrong, but presently I am thinking that I am not wrong...and all of you supporting the elitists party are...unless you have a bank account that at least has 7 digits in front of the decimal point.

TheOak · 02-15-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Anybody can make any comment they want on MB's...that's what makes it so interesting...but just because you say that doesn't make it so.

Have you ever noticed those little metalic looking reflector dealies that separate the lanes of a highway...the ones that have red reflectors to let you know you are going the wrong way? Did you ever wonder who makes those things and how rich is he?

I don't think he is getting rich at anyone else's expense.

I agree that everyone wants to get rich, and I also acknowledge that as of this date I have not accomplished that goal. That is probably the main reason that I do not support a political party that seems to be a fraternity for the rich.

As I stated previously, all of my observations come from my 59 year old simple brain. I do not let anyone else talk me into feeling some way...all of my opinions have been based on my simple observations. I guess that is a way of saying I could be wrong, but presently I am thinking that I am not wrong...and all of you supporting the elitists party are...unless you have a bank account that at least has 7 digits in front of the decimal point.

Regardless of what you may "think', the guy that made those reflectors is selling them at a PROFIT to SOMEONE, thus getting rich off of someone else. Actually the guy selling those reflectors to the STATE is a perfect example of why you are wrong... He is under GOVERNMENT contract to supply those and GOVERNMENT contracts are very lucrative.

Oil and war are dirty words to you, so you bask in the light that Obama doesn't make his money off of oil and war... So where does he make it? Where does Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed make their money? Its not Oil and War... Its off of low income housing deals and keeping people needy.

As you sit there and call Republicans the "party of the rich" have you ever bothered to take a look at the members of your party? Really looked at the wealth they have amasses off of the backs of the poor and the rich alike? FYI Here is one you'll need a Zanax for, the Democrats main campaign contributor was George Soros, Who also gets RICH OFF OF HIS OWNERSHIP OF 2 MILLION SHARE OF HALLIBURTON... You know, the company that democrats love to hate because of Dick Cheney.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2007/02/27/soros_buys_halliburton
George Soros Finally Donates to Super PAC, Hopes to Counter the Koch Brothers

Top campaign contributors, stop looking at just the republicans and look at "YOUR GUYS" list... big money Hollywood, Corporate elitists<
Meet the 5 Biggest Donors to the Obama & Romney Campaigns | TheBlaze.com

Because you are led by your emotions you refuse to believe that is the case because you do not like the way it makes you feel. Everything you have bought that is in your home was sold to you at a profit, and the person selling it to you did so getting richer off of you.

Did Obama have a stake dinner for the poor around DC? No he surrounded him self with rich elitists that all support him and vote Democrat. Spin this in your mind anyway you like, it is what it is and he didn't serve meals to anyone needy. He served them to the rich elitists he has you believing are the bad guys so he could get their money for his campaign.... Which FYI... never stopped. Ive never seen ANY president campaign his entire career.

Where you have missed the boat is that you truly believe one party is different from the other, they are not, they just wear different colored neck ties. Much like the Saints and the Panthers, they may wear different uniforms and fans cheer for their own team, truth is that they play the same game with the same end goal in mind.

Furthermore as I have stated I am NO fan of Bush and never have been. My world much unlike yours is not black and white. However you should know that the man you have so much passion for (hate is as strong as love) is one of the greatest humanitarian presidents that has ever taken office.

As you stated you refuse to learn, so stay blind, keep hating, and believe as you will. However, what you believe doesn't change the below reality.

What George W. Bush Did Right | Foreign Policy

Obama is no different... Just a different color neck tie.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/wo...anted=all&_r=0

So.... Welcome to 15 February 2013, the morning you woke up and realized you support the party of the rich, corporate elitists that are owners of Halliburton. Now who has been blind?

TheOak · 02-15-2013, 07:46 AM

Here is another one for all the liberals.

You sit and agree with Obama that something needs to be done about the cost of education and college tuition......

Look at his largest contributor..

University of California 1.2 million.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/co...p?id=N00009638

How many students would that have helped?

Oh yea, he took money from elitist wealthy Harvard also.

Hypocrite. You don't have a leg to stand on.

Saint_LB · 02-15-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Did Obama have a stake dinner for the poor around DC?

Well...just as an example of how my simple mind works...I ordinarily don't go around being a "spell checker"...but on one hand you want to show me with all your quotes and links just how knowledgeable you are, but then I realize that you don't know that a "stake" is something you drive into the ground and a "steak" is a piece of meat. You see...I'm sitting here wondering...well, nevermind.

Originally Posted by TheOak

However you should know that the man you have so much passion for (hate is as strong as love) is one of the greatest humanitarian presidents that has ever taken office.

Edit...nevermind...I misread. I thought you were talking about Obama. Sorry.

I think the Bush's are concerned about the Bush's #1 and I'm not one of them. It is not passion for the man but rather amazement at his ability to make so many people like him. I am not one of the guys that considers him and myself to be "buds".

Danno · 02-15-2013, 08:23 AM

Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this...

EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else.

I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it.

I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats.

And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want.

The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could.

Saint_LB · 02-15-2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this...

EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else.
I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it.

I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats.

And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want.

The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could.

Danno...I have no problem with people being rich. I do have a problem with people getting rich even if it means other people losing their lives. If you knew some of the thoughts that go on in my head...some we touched on a couple of weeks ago...then you would probably think I am crazy. However, if some of my suspicions were to turn out to be real, then the country would go balistic.

I have always thought that I could look into people's eyes and see the truth, and I honestly have never been able to look into GW's eyes or his dad's and see nothing but deceit.

TheOak · 02-15-2013, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this...
EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else.
I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it.

I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats.

And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want.

The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could.

I am not sure you misunderstood me as much as maybe applied too much gravity to "at the expense of someone else".. Is the flood of liberalism making you passionate about certain words and phrases?

Point being that I am defining "richer" as an increase in monetary value, even if it is $5. "At the expense of someone else" I am not defining as "taking advantage of" or making someone else poorer unless you agree that if I buy a widget from you for $5, you are writing me a check for $5 and it is coming as an expense to you.

I am using "expense" as an accounting term. Not in a derogatory manor.

"Everyone" does not include our Government, our Government does not write a check at their own expense, they write a check at our (the tax payers) expense. And when there isn't tax payer money available they fire up the good old printers and make it them selves.

As far as for people being "taken advantage of" as the liberals love to say... EVERYONE in this country has the right to say NO, I don't want to pay x for that item in the private sector. The only true "taking advantage of" scenarios involve the Government making laws requiring private citizens to pay for a service... The citizens can not say no, and they can not shop the market for an alternative. Example: State inspection on a motor vehicle. While we can go where we want to for an inspection as long as it is licensed by the Government the price is X and we have to have it to take our vehicle on the road.

02-14-2013, 03:17 PM	#31
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,848	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by TheOak Their talking points have not changed in ten years! Bush.... War.... Bush..... War.... You left out "Oil"...and "rich people want to get richer at the expense of our country and their tactics are to convince 51% of the common Joe's that they are one of them" Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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02-14-2013, 03:52 PM	#32
saintfan Site Donor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 9,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by Saint_LB Now that is funny. I feel exactly the same way!!! I knew you were a gonner with the whole "balanced budget" thing. Libs who pay attention - and granted there aren't many - don't even go there because it's bunk and they know it. Liberal Democrats are the big spenders - and our current POS (that's piece of **** if you're wondering) is the record setter among them. Check your history - and you'll need to go a bit further back than the 80's... Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

02-15-2013, 06:03 AM	#33
TheOak Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 7,717	Originally Posted by Saint_LB You left out "Oil"...and "rich people want to get richer at the expense of our country and their tactics are to convince 51% of the common Joe's that they are one of them" Reality check. EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else. Well, except our government, they just fire up the ink jets and print what they need. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

02-15-2013, 06:54 AM	#34
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,848	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by TheOak Reality check. EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else. Anybody can make any comment they want on MB's...that's what makes it so interesting...but just because you say that doesn't make it so. Have you ever noticed those little metalic looking reflector dealies that separate the lanes of a highway...the ones that have red reflectors to let you know you are going the wrong way? Did you ever wonder who makes those things and how rich is he? I don't think he is getting rich at anyone else's expense. I agree that everyone wants to get rich, and I also acknowledge that as of this date I have not accomplished that goal. That is probably the main reason that I do not support a political party that seems to be a fraternity for the rich. As I stated previously, all of my observations come from my 59 year old simple brain. I do not let anyone else talk me into feeling some way...all of my opinions have been based on my simple observations. I guess that is a way of saying I could be wrong, but presently I am thinking that I am not wrong...and all of you supporting the elitists party are...unless you have a bank account that at least has 7 digits in front of the decimal point. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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02-15-2013, 07:35 AM	#35
TheOak Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 7,717	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by Saint_LB Anybody can make any comment they want on MB's...that's what makes it so interesting...but just because you say that doesn't make it so. Have you ever noticed those little metalic looking reflector dealies that separate the lanes of a highway...the ones that have red reflectors to let you know you are going the wrong way? Did you ever wonder who makes those things and how rich is he? I don't think he is getting rich at anyone else's expense. I agree that everyone wants to get rich, and I also acknowledge that as of this date I have not accomplished that goal. That is probably the main reason that I do not support a political party that seems to be a fraternity for the rich. As I stated previously, all of my observations come from my 59 year old simple brain. I do not let anyone else talk me into feeling some way...all of my opinions have been based on my simple observations. I guess that is a way of saying I could be wrong, but presently I am thinking that I am not wrong...and all of you supporting the elitists party are...unless you have a bank account that at least has 7 digits in front of the decimal point. Regardless of what you may "think', the guy that made those reflectors is selling them at a PROFIT to SOMEONE, thus getting rich off of someone else. Actually the guy selling those reflectors to the STATE is a perfect example of why you are wrong... He is under GOVERNMENT contract to supply those and GOVERNMENT contracts are very lucrative. Oil and war are dirty words to you, so you bask in the light that Obama doesn't make his money off of oil and war... So where does he make it? Where does Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed make their money? Its not Oil and War... Its off of low income housing deals and keeping people needy. As you sit there and call Republicans the "party of the rich" have you ever bothered to take a look at the members of your party? Really looked at the wealth they have amasses off of the backs of the poor and the rich alike? FYI Here is one you'll need a Zanax for, the Democrats main campaign contributor was George Soros, Who also gets RICH OFF OF HIS OWNERSHIP OF 2 MILLION SHARE OF HALLIBURTON... You know, the company that democrats love to hate because of Dick Cheney. http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2007/02/27/soros_buys_halliburton George Soros Finally Donates to Super PAC, Hopes to Counter the Koch Brothers Top campaign contributors, stop looking at just the republicans and look at "YOUR GUYS" list... big money Hollywood, Corporate elitists< Meet the 5 Biggest Donors to the Obama & Romney Campaigns \| TheBlaze.com Because you are led by your emotions you refuse to believe that is the case because you do not like the way it makes you feel. Everything you have bought that is in your home was sold to you at a profit, and the person selling it to you did so getting richer off of you. Did Obama have a stake dinner for the poor around DC? No he surrounded him self with rich elitists that all support him and vote Democrat. Spin this in your mind anyway you like, it is what it is and he didn't serve meals to anyone needy. He served them to the rich elitists he has you believing are the bad guys so he could get their money for his campaign.... Which FYI... never stopped. Ive never seen ANY president campaign his entire career. Where you have missed the boat is that you truly believe one party is different from the other, they are not, they just wear different colored neck ties. Much like the Saints and the Panthers, they may wear different uniforms and fans cheer for their own team, truth is that they play the same game with the same end goal in mind. Furthermore as I have stated I am NO fan of Bush and never have been. My world much unlike yours is not black and white. However you should know that the man you have so much passion for (hate is as strong as love) is one of the greatest humanitarian presidents that has ever taken office. As you stated you refuse to learn, so stay blind, keep hating, and believe as you will. However, what you believe doesn't change the below reality. What George W. Bush Did Right \| Foreign Policy Obama is no different... Just a different color neck tie. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/wo...anted=all&_r=0 So.... Welcome to 15 February 2013, the morning you woke up and realized you support the party of the rich, corporate elitists that are owners of Halliburton. Now who has been blind? Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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02-15-2013, 07:46 AM	#36
TheOak Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 7,717	Here is another one for all the liberals. You sit and agree with Obama that something needs to be done about the cost of education and college tuition...... Look at his largest contributor.. University of California 1.2 million. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/co...p?id=N00009638 How many students would that have helped? Oh yea, he took money from elitist wealthy Harvard also. Hypocrite. You don't have a leg to stand on. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

02-15-2013, 08:18 AM	#37
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,848	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by TheOak Did Obama have a stake dinner for the poor around DC? Well...just as an example of how my simple mind works...I ordinarily don't go around being a "spell checker"...but on one hand you want to show me with all your quotes and links just how knowledgeable you are, but then I realize that you don't know that a "stake" is something you drive into the ground and a "steak" is a piece of meat. You see...I'm sitting here wondering...well, nevermind. Originally Posted by TheOak However you should know that the man you have so much passion for (hate is as strong as love) is one of the greatest humanitarian presidents that has ever taken office. Edit...nevermind...I misread. I thought you were talking about Obama. Sorry. I think the Bush's are concerned about the Bush's #1 and I'm not one of them. It is not passion for the man but rather amazement at his ability to make so many people like him. I am not one of the guys that considers him and myself to be "buds". Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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02-15-2013, 08:23 AM	#38
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort Alabama Posts: 11,018	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this... EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else. I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it. I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats. And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want. The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!

02-15-2013, 08:37 AM	#39
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,848	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by Danno Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this... EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else. I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it. I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats. And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want. The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could. Danno...I have no problem with people being rich. I do have a problem with people getting rich even if it means other people losing their lives. If you knew some of the thoughts that go on in my head...some we touched on a couple of weeks ago...then you would probably think I am crazy. However, if some of my suspicions were to turn out to be real, then the country would go balistic. I have always thought that I could look into people's eyes and see the truth, and I honestly have never been able to look into GW's eyes or his dad's and see nothing but deceit. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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02-15-2013, 08:46 AM	#40
TheOak Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 7,717	Re: Missed The State Of The Union? Originally Posted by Danno Good stuff Oak as usual, but one thing rubbed me the wrong way, and I probably misunderstood you. I disagree with this... EVERYONE wants to get richer and it ALL comes at the expense of someone else. I don't believe in the finite pie. Someone getting rich doesn't mean there's someone becoming poorer because of it. I believe in an ever expanding (and sometimes shrinking) pie. A rising tide raises all boats. And I despise the wealth envy tactics that liberals employ. The "Rich" pay wages for many people. The rich help others become rich. They provide opportunities for other to climb the ladder as high as they want. The "rich" help the poor more than any US Government program ever could. I am not sure you misunderstood me as much as maybe applied too much gravity to "at the expense of someone else".. Is the flood of liberalism making you passionate about certain words and phrases? Point being that I am defining "richer" as an increase in monetary value, even if it is $5. "At the expense of someone else" I am not defining as "taking advantage of" or making someone else poorer unless you agree that if I buy a widget from you for $5, you are writing me a check for $5 and it is coming as an expense to you. I am using "expense" as an accounting term. Not in a derogatory manor. "Everyone" does not include our Government, our Government does not write a check at their own expense, they write a check at our (the tax payers) expense. And when there isn't tax payer money available they fire up the good old printers and make it them selves. As far as for people being "taken advantage of" as the liberals love to say... EVERYONE in this country has the right to say NO, I don't want to pay x for that item in the private sector. The only true "taking advantage of" scenarios involve the Government making laws requiring private citizens to pay for a service... The citizens can not say no, and they can not shop the market for an alternative. Example: State inspection on a motor vehicle. While we can go where we want to for an inspection as long as it is licensed by the Government the price is X and we have to have it to take our vehicle on the road. Share Share this post on Digg Reddit! Twitter! Facebook!
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