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this is a discussion within the Poli-Sci Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rickh Lowering salaries of senators and congressmen & executive branch would be nice, I guess. Many of those guys don't even need the money and the sweetheart deals they get after they leave and work for lobbying ...

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Old 03-20-2013, 02:42 PM   #31
 
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Lowering salaries of senators and congressmen & executive branch would be nice, I guess. Many of those guys don't even need the money and the sweetheart deals they get after they leave and work for lobbying organizations makes their salary kind of a joke to them.
Indeed.... and HR25 would be great too!
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:06 PM   #32
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Indeed.... and HR25 would be great too!
Good luck with that, a pure consumption tax which would eliminate Congress' power to encourage certain people and corporations? A totally progressive tax? that'll never happen.

It would be a great thing to pass though.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:10 PM   #33
 
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Good luck with that, a pure consumption tax which would eliminate Congress' power to encourage certain people and corporations? A totally progressive tax? that'll never happen.

It would be a great thing to pass though.
Agreed .... one can dream, however.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:40 AM   #34
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Now that Oak, is a different thread. I'm more than happy to discuss about whether cutting taxes will raise or lower taxes paid in the long run.

I didn't realize all taxes paid go to "Barry". If you want to have a serious conversation about what I think about tax rates, I'll oblige you after I get to work.

I think your better than this "Barry" talk but we'll see later today.
You deflect everything. It's not even worth my time to reply any more because you only follow with BS.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:41 AM   #35
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Then don't reply, because I guess, that the points I made earlier are poison to you.

In the echo chamber ppl ignore the facts that don't fit the world view. Don't even want to address them.

I'm not deflecting. I didn't want to get into a low road kind of thing where I give politicians "nicknames".

When in Rome, I guess
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:17 AM   #36
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Don't reply? lol! I started this thread and politely asked for an answer to a given scenario in the OP.

Much like the liberal party, you try to change the rules, and deflect.

Passive aggressive obstructionist deflection at its finest.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:29 AM   #37
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Glad we all agree that cutting taxes
Is the fastest way to spur the economy.
Interestingly enough the current Swedish government (which I happened to vote fore) has made lowering taxes and keepin salary increases down one of their main priorities during the last two terms. This has led to us having more poor people than ever, more people on government welfare, and a larger gap in income between the rich and the poor. Some of this is to blame on the poor economic times but lowering taxes isn't an automatic solution to everything.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:53 AM   #38
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Interestingly enough the current Swedish government (which I happened to vote fore) has made lowering taxes and keepin salary increases down one of their main priorities during the last two terms. This has led to us having more poor people than ever, more people on government welfare, and a larger gap in income between the rich and the poor. Some of this is to blame on the poor economic times but lowering taxes isn't an automatic solution to everything.
There is no automatic solution, I suspect there are ingredients other than just tax cuts involved in the situation in Sweden. I don't recall anyone bringing up limiting salary increases in America. I know of no one that supports salary caps... Lol except for the NFL.

You maintain your own currency, are primarily an export country so you must take a huge hit on conversions?

Sweden has made a recent push to reduce unemployment and raise pay which it looks like has increased unemployment.

Looks like you took some huge hits to GDP in the last decade also.

AMS-åtgärder masks your true unemployment rate of near 20%.

You should expect some in my replies.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:17 AM   #39
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Don't reply? lol! I started this thread and politely asked for an answer to a given scenario in the OP.

Much like the liberal party, you try to change the rules, and deflect.

Passive aggressive obstructionist deflection at its finest.
Oh crap dude... you're really playing word games this morning. I've answered again and again. The latest was post #14.

I'll post in very small, digestible chunks for you next time. Try to keep up won't you
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:32 AM   #40
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There is no automatic solution, I suspect there are ingredients other than just tax cuts involved in the situation in Sweden. I don't recall anyone bringing up limiting salary increases in America. I know of no one that supports salary caps... Lol except for the NFL.
Regular people support it but big business and shareholders (I'm a shareholder who don't support it) do. Its an easy way to raise profits since they can keep raising prices along with the inflation but keep salaries the same.

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You maintain your own currency, are primarily an export country so you must take a huge hit on conversions?
Right now the big exporting companies should be having troubled times becuase the conversionrate but still are doing really well. The Swedish Krona is one of the strongest currencies in the world right now, but that gos in cycles so it swings both ways. It should be noted that some of the bigger Swedish companies doess all their business in Euro or Dollars.

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Sweden has made a recent push to reduce unemployment and raise pay which it looks like has increased unemployment.
The biggest thing that hase casued unemploeyment are harsher financial times, losing two big car companies (Volvo and Saab) and a bunch of other jobs by them being relocated to low-cost-labour countries. Salaries and unemployment will always be tightly connected.

The government recently lowered the sales tax in restaurants hoping to create more jobs in that business. Th big fast food chains actually did employ more people (a couple of hundred total) but most smaller restaurants or small chains just used it to raise their profits. The thought was good but the result the intended.

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Looks like you took some huge hits to GDP in the last decade also.
Like most of the world the Swedish GDP took a hit in 2008-2009. But apart from that and a couple of years in the early 90s when we had a Swedish bank crisis the Swedish GDP has been raising steadily since 1970. BNP is Swedish for GDP.

BNP - internationellt | Tillväxt | Ekonomi | Fakta och statistik | Ekonomifakta.se, has a nice function where you can compare between different countries. Its all in Swedish but you will understand the country names in the drop-down menues.

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AMS-åtgärder masks your true unemployment rate of near 20%.
Unemployement rate at 20%? I actually had to go and look and that is a faulty number. Tidigare statistik - Arbetsförmedlingen [NS4 version]
posts a unemployement rate at 4.6% with a 3.9% in AMS-åtgärder (subsidised employments, training for new careers etc) for a grand total of 8.5%. What is very troubeling however is that roughly 15% of girls age 18-24 are unemployed and almost 20% of boys the ame age.

You kids get off my lawn!
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