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stockman311 09-07-2005 12:04 PM

Red McCombs must perish
 
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s....131c0622.html

:evil:

Someone needs to beat this S.O.B.!

He can't keep his team in Minnesota so now he is scheming with Benson to move the team to San Antonio and not even being the least bit covert about it.
I hope everyone agrees with me when I say F*ck Red McCombs!

Crusader 09-07-2005 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stockman311
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA090705.3C.FBNsaints.sanantonio.131c0622.html

:evil:

Someone needs to beat this S.O.B.!

He can't keep his team in Minnesota so now he is scheming with Benson to move the team to San Antonio and not even being the least bit covert about it.
I hope everyone agrees with me when I say F*ck Red McCombs!

I don't agree with the title of this topic. I see why McCombs would be interested i n this from a business POV. I do however find this to be utterly disturbing and very distasteful. The Saints belong in New Orleans now and forever.

TheDeuce 09-07-2005 02:20 PM

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That is just awful. If these a**holes in San Antonio TAKE ADVANTAGE of this situation and steal away the only thing that some of these people have left to hold onto, then shame on them. This is not the time to be taking advantage of a situation; people have lost their homes, possessions, and family members. I will be unbelievably pissed at Benson, the NFL, San Antonio, and I will most likely never watch another professional football game again. This is ridiculous; the Saints need to stay where they belong: IN NEW ORLEANS.

SapperSaint 09-08-2005 07:00 AM

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"F" McCombs and San Antonio! It is absolutely sick for them to say "Take advantage of this situation". If they so desperately want an NFL do an expantion team. They have an NBA team it sould not be that difficult for them. Take Advantage!!!!!! What a bunch of "F**kin' scumbags!
Crusader, I understand what you're saying about "business", but "business" should not even factor into this. This is not like a "Hostile take over of a corperation", they (S.A.) are talking about taking advantage of a natural disaster, human disaster; like a bunch of damn vultures waiting for N.O. to die.

:fuming: The whole thing makes me sick!

Euphoria 09-08-2005 09:38 AM

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I don't think any of this holds much water... I mean sure what city wouldn't want a NFL team? Combs isn't in a position to make decisions like this and seems he only making an opinion... and we all know what they say about opinions. I highly think that Jerry Jones will have a huge issue with the Saints in his back yard for one, Mr. Texas. I also can't phatom for the life of me why they think that the NFL owners would agree to move a small market team into yet another small market.

saintswhodi 09-08-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria
I don't think any of this holds much water... I mean sure what city wouldn't want a NFL team? Combs isn't in a position to make decisions like this and seems he only making an opinion... and we all know what they say about opinions. I highly think that Jerry Jones will have a huge issue with the Saints in his back yard for one, Mr. Texas. I also can't phatom for the life of me why they think that the NFL owners would agree to move a small market team into yet another small market.

Wow Euph, you and I agree, at least on the McCombs part. What a bunch of overreactions. Let me make this clear: RED MCCOMBS HAS NO SAY ON HOW SAN ANOTNIO IS RUN. He is Joe Blow on the street, except with more money. That's like someone interviewing Bill Gates and he says, boy maybe the Saints can play in San Jose, and everyone runs around like a chicken with their heads cut off about San jose trying to steal the Saints. Red McCombs is a San Antonio native, former NFL team owner who tried on numerous occasions to get the Vikes here, and failed. Who would guess he would speak up about the Saints? This is no reflection on the city of San Antonio or its people who have been more than helpful in light of this tragedy. In case some of you have forgotten, the Saints team is now living and practicing in San Antonio, and they have privately expressed interest in playing their home games here, CAUSE THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND THE SUPERDOME ARE UNINHABITABLE. Baton Rouge is busting at the seems as it is, and will more than likely be the headquarters of all relief and recovery efforts to New Orleans. They are already overcrowded, so much so LSU had to ove it's home game against AZ State to AZ. Be realistic, and stop looking for baseless reasons to blast San Antonio off the words of one insensitive coot.

Euphoria 09-08-2005 10:20 AM

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Yeah, we need to stop agreeing so much lately. LOL. I couldn't agree with you more... people have to realize some of these articles get written by jounalist just looking and even trying to create a story doesn't mean it has significant substance to the article. Quite frankly I think it only exposes the uninteligence the reporter is...

LordOfEntropy 09-08-2005 11:08 AM

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Well, these reporters do seem to spend as much time fishing as they do reporting. Fishing for stories, if you know what I mean.

Euphoria 09-08-2005 11:20 AM

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yeah and even pay attention when they are really hurting they go to an "opinion story" of some sort. Part of the problem is there are so many media outlets that there is a void for material. TV, Radio, Newpaper, magazines, BLOGS, fourms... its nuts.

saintswhodi 09-08-2005 12:09 PM

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An opportunity upstate
A large percentage of the 561,000 housing units in New Orleans are likely destroyed, according to the National Association. of Realtors. While many of them will probably be rebuilt, some of the construction will also shift to Baton Rouge and other Louisiana cities, creating more construction, architecture and engineering jobs in these areas.

Still, the economic outlook in the region is far from rosy. Even with support from the government and other cities, Katrina could reduce employment by 400,000 people in coming months and trim economic growth by as much as a full percentage point in the second half of this year, according to a Congressional Budget Office assessment.

Some companies say they won’t be headed back to New Orleans after the rebuilding effort gets underway in coming months. Many law and accounting firms and energy companies from New Orleans and the coastal cities of Mississippi have already made decisions to move operations permanently to cities such as Baton Rouge and Lafayette and have signed long-term leases there, brokers say.

And more are being courted by smaller cities looking to boost their local economy.

The city of Shreveport, near the Texas border, has taken out ads in the Baton Rouge Advocate touting its large supply of commercial space and ample housing stock.
"Baton Rouge has doubled its population in a week and there is not enough housing there for business resumption," said Shreveport mayor Keith Hightower. "We have housing, we have office space and we have businesses that want to adopt those that want to relocate."

In some cases, real estate companies are even trying to bring business into their hometown. Rod Noles, owner of Noles-Frye Realty in Alexandria, is trying to attract key companies to the city by promising to buy back the houses of employees who stay in the area more than a year at 85% of the purchase price if they eventually decide to leave.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...9.asp?GT1=6970


Look at these bastards in Alexandria and Lafayette tring to steal New Orleans' businesses. How dare they at a time like this. The nerve of someone to offer an available space to business who want to establish stability at a time like this and continue their operations in as much normalcy as possible. I mean a city in Louisiana actually trying to LURE businesses flooded in New Orleans to their areas? Scandalous. Boy, I hope these towns in Lousiana get ripped as bad as those terrible people from San Antonio, who had one loud mouth retired old coot speak and apparently represent the entire population of the city, which by the way is housing a large number of evacuees. :roll:

Euphoria 09-08-2005 12:13 PM

LOL, I guess no one realizes there is going to be a boom in New Orleans areas. Jobs galore, contruction, mechanics, tons. Lumber and brick industries... build build build, and jobs jobs jobs.

stockman311 09-09-2005 10:46 AM

First of all I am not ripping San Antonio or any other city for helping out with both the Saints and the citizens of New Orleans in a time like this.
I am ripping that F*ckstick McCombs for being a thoughtless, douchbag when the people of New Orleans are hanging on by a thread.
All I can say is that it sucks to have you NFL team owned by a dirty Fing car dealer with dirty fing car dealer friends schemeing to make some quick loot off of a natural disaster.
Frankly, I'd rather have Jerry Jones and I can't stand that S.O.B.

CheramieIII 09-09-2005 11:14 AM

These people are no better than the looters and rapists in New Orleans after Katrina. I would never be a Saint's fan if they moved to San Antonio, now is not the time for any city to be attempting to seize anything from the city of New Orleans.

saintswhodi 09-09-2005 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stockman311
First of all I am not ripping San Antonio or any other city for helping out with both the Saints and the citizens of New Orleans in a time like this.
I am ripping that F*ckstick McCombs for being a thoughtless, douchbag when the people of New Orleans are hanging on by a thread.
All I can say is that it sucks to have you NFL team owned by a dirty Fing car dealer with dirty fing car dealer friends schemeing to make some quick loot off of a natural disaster.
Frankly, I'd rather have Jerry Jones and I can't stand that S.O.B.

I know stockman, It's just people that are like F San Antonio cause of what one moralless clown said. That kind of crap pisses me off. McCombs is a slimeball. Curse him out all you want. But don't lump all of San Antonio into that.

saintswhodi 09-09-2005 02:42 PM

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Peter Finney: Red 'The Vulture' McCombs

Thursday, 2:10 p.m.

By Peter Finney
Sports Columnist

I didn’t know a vulture had four legs.

“This is a great opportunity for the city and we need to seize the moment, jump into it with all four legs,’’ said Red McCombs.

That’s Red (The Vulture) McCombs, former owner of the Minnesota Vikings, speaking from his hometown, which happens to be San Antonio.

“Every effort needs to be made to tie up the Saints for this season, including having people stand in front of the Alamodome singing, ‘When the Saints Come Marching In.’ ‘’

What class.

In a stricken, evacuated, underwater New Orleans, they’ve only begun to count the dead and here you have a former NFL owner dancing on the coffin, telling the San Antonio Express-News he believes a permanent move of Tom Benson’s franchise would be supported by league owners.

Red The Vulture. What a sleaze-ball.

There’s a time for everything. This is not the time to talk about moving a franchise – permanently - from a city that has served as the host of nine Super Bowls.

This is a time to open your arms to those who have lost homes, lost loved ones, lost everything, which is exactly what the city of San Antonio has done.

It has been open arms to Tom Benson’s football team, in the way of practice facilities, also to an estimated 12,000 of the displaced, in the way of shelters, rooms for the elderly, tons and tons of food, and runaway charity.

In San Antonio, you have someone like Famous Washington, a pharmacist, who grew up in New Orleans, sheltering 16 members of his extended family, from 9-months-old to 77-years-old.

In San Antonio, you also have Red (The Vulture) McCombs.

Millionaire McCombs, a longtime friend of Tom Benson, bought the Vikings a few years ago, and unloaded them, after failing to get a new stadium.

Now he’s saying, if Benson wants to make a permanent move to Alamo city, he’ll get the green light from the owners because, as McCombs puts it, “Tom sits on the management council and has a lot of clout.’’

What do I think?

In the post-Katrina world, I have little doubt Benson would like to relocate to San Antonio.

Forever.

But what about Paul Tagliabue, commissioner of the NFL?

That’s the billion-dollar question.

Because a vote of the owners would stop a move, because the commissioner owns the ultimate clout, Tagliabue sits in an emperor’s chair.

A city that has been the crown jewel among Super Bowl hosts has suffered the greatest catastrophe in the history of this country, assuming you place what happened on 8/29 above 9/11.

All of which leaves the commissioner facing several questions:

How crucial, how fair to the future of the NFL, is it keeping the Saints in Louisiana over the short term, in New Orleans over the long haul?

If it turns out Katrina KO’d the Superdome as the Saints’ home, where can the team play on an interim basis while a new home is being built?

What part – financially – would the league play in a “new’’ Superdome?
Given the circumstances, what part might the federal government be willing to play in such a revival?

Looking down the road, waiting for a renovated Dome, or a new one, in New New Orleans, all sorts of options would face the gypsy Saints of, let’s say, 2006 and 2007.

Perhaps playing all home games in Tiger Stadium?

Perhaps scattering them among Baton Rouge, Shreveport, Mobile, Jackson, Miss.?

And San Antonio?

Keep in mind, while the (North) Carolina Panthers, who the Saints play Sunday, were waiting to move into their new home in Charlotte, their interim home was across the state line, in Clemson, S.C.

Who knows what the future holds.

In a long-term manner of speaking, Katrina has made it a moment of truth.
For Tom Benson.

For Paul Tagliabue.

For the moment, my message to Red (The Vulture) McCombs is simple: Stop doing the boogie on a fleur de lis grave.

It’s unbecoming.

Let’s see how it all plays out.

New Orleans is down.

But not out.

How do I know?

Well, Paul Prudhomme is planning to show up Friday, leading a caravan of trucks to his offices in Elmwood.

“We’ve got generators, food and trailers and we’ll be in a parking lot cooking for anyone who needs it,’’ he said. “We’re going home, baby.’’

saintswhodi 09-09-2005 03:21 PM

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From Lew Pasquarelli's tip sheet:

• More on the Saints: Maybe we're misreading the tea leaves, but having spent a couple days with New Orleans Saints players and team officials last weekend, we think we've got a pretty good understanding of their sentiments. So you can ignore most of the rhetoric about wanting to play all their games in Baton Rouge, La. The overwhelming choice of the players is to stay in San Antonio for home games. In fact, several veterans expressed that opinion in a meeting with NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw Thursday. "I know they expressed their concerns to Gene," said coach Jim Haslett, "and we also expressed our concerns to commissioner Tagliabue. I don't think you have to be a brain surgeon to figure out that you'd like to play the games where you're practicing."
One "home" game that might be a natural to play at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge is the Oct. 30 contest with Miami, and former LSU coach Nick Saban. But some Saints players aren't even sold on that. "It just seems like there's so much going on [in Baton Rouge] will all the evacuated people there. I'm not sure they can even have a game there," said wide receiver Donte' Stallworth. Indeed, the city's population has essentially doubled in the past week, because of all the people who fled other parts of Louisiana -- hotels are packed and the influx has created traffic gridlock.

Officials at the Alamodome have cleared Oct. 2, in the event the league decides to have the Saints play their scheduled home game against Buffalo that day in San Antonio. City officials are working on details of a deal that would put the Saints in the Alamodome for at least four games. There is, as has been noted in the past week, great sensitivity to deal with here. San Antonio officials don't want to come off looking like vultures, poised to snatch a professional team from a crippled city. But the reality is that San Antonio would love to have NFL football and the Saints aren't going back to New Orleans anytime soon.

Some players have calmed down about having to play their so-called "home opener" at Giants Stadium on Sept. 19. It remains a sore spot, too, with team officials. Most allow that there may not have been many viable alternate sites. But the Saints lobbied hard to have the game played on Saturday night, Sept. 17. The way the schedule now stands, the team must travel to Carolina for Sunday's season opener. Then the Saints play the Monday game against the Giants, won't arrive back in San Antonio until early Tuesday morning, and will have a short week to prepare for another road game, at Minnesota on Sept. 25.

nola_swammi 09-10-2005 12:51 AM

nope, no way, San Antonio trying to reap the awards of NO misfortunes. I guess they're not thieves or looters. They are PARASITES.

SapperSaint 09-10-2005 01:26 AM

Whodi, sorry you happen to live in the town that happens to be doing this, but trust me, Red McCombs isn't the only person involved in this. Business leaders, city officials, the mayor and govenor. I spent seven months in S.A. and fell in love with the city. We are not blasting the general population but you have to admit that it would not hurt your feelings as bad with them moving to your hometown. When they were talking about moving to Mississippi I was semi-thrilled about it. However, since the current events have happened, if, (IF) they were to move, (even to MS), I could not be faithful to them.
I think we are getting ahead of our selves on this matter anyway.

saintswhodi 09-10-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint
Whodi, sorry you happen to live in the town that happens to be doing this, but trust me, Red McCombs isn't the only person involved in this. Business leaders, city officials, the mayor and govenor. I spent seven months in S.A. and fell in love with the city. We are not blasting the general population but you have to admit that it would not hurt your feelings as bad with them moving to your hometown. When they were talking about moving to Mississippi I was semi-thrilled about it. However, since the current events have happened, if, (IF) they were to move, (even to MS), I could not be faithful to them.
I think we are getting ahead of our selves on this matter anyway.

The thing is, I KNOW the city of San Antonio would love to have the Saints. I have no doubt. They were jumping for joy when Benson had his attorney mention the city a few months back as a possible relocation site. When they were gonna move here then, I didn't like it, but I knew I would soon change my mind. Saying they are attempting to take the team under conditions like this is deplorable, and smacks the people of San Antonio in the face, all for one ******* in McCombs. I am sure if Tom Benson, who everyone SHOULD be mad at for not standing up and saying this would not happen at a time like this, was speaking to the city privately about moving the team, they would listen. Hell, I have read articles that have said it's his preference to move here permanently. Why then are people getting mad at San Antonio, and not Benson? San Antonio is a great city, and the people there should not have to be cursed cause of one greedy ass non football team owner, and another greedy ass current football team owner. That's just ignorant.

Euphoria 09-10-2005 10:21 PM

I am with you brother... Everything points to the opposite that there is no plans of a permenant move. San Antonio is a great time... been there a couple of times and I don't have a problem with them getting some football action in there and benefit for all Texas has done for Louisiana during the hell.

SapperSaint 09-11-2005 02:30 AM

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Why then are people getting mad at San Antonio, and not Benson? San Antonio is a great city, and the people there should not have to be cursed cause of one greedy ass non football team owner, and another greedy ass current football team owner. That's just ignorant.
Your right. It is human nature to lash out and we all hate Benson anyway, have for years. No offense meant on my part. :drink:

saintswhodi 09-11-2005 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint
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Why then are people getting mad at San Antonio, and not Benson? San Antonio is a great city, and the people there should not have to be cursed cause of one greedy ass non football team owner, and another greedy ass current football team owner. That's just ignorant.
Your right. It is human nature to lash out and we all hate Benson anyway, have for years. No offense meant on my part. :drink:

No prob bud. I hate Benson too. This should have been squashed by him long time ago, yet he has made no move to do so, and no commitment to the city, at a time when they need it most. HE and McCombs can go jump off a bridge.


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