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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Los Angeles County California Population, 2003 estimate 9,871,506 Isn't LA Orange County? Nope ..... The O.C. is still larger in population then the San Antonio - Austin cooridor . Not to mention they have their own t.v. show . :P ...

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Old 09-13-2005, 10:21 PM   #21
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Los Angeles County California
Population, 2003 estimate 9,871,506


Isn't LA Orange County?
Nope .....

The O.C. is still larger in population then the San Antonio - Austin cooridor . Not to mention they have their own t.v. show . :P

http://www.fox.com/oc/
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:39 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by saintz08
Los Angeles County California
Population, 2003 estimate 9,871,506


Isn't LA Orange County?
Nope .....

The O.C. is still larger in population then the San Antonio - Austin cooridor . Not to mention they have their own t.v. show . :P

http://www.fox.com/oc/

Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info, but this population map says San Antonio is the 8th most populus city in America as of 2003, and even Austin is bigger than Anaheim, in Orange County. As a matter of fact, no city in Orange County is even close to San Antonio or Austin, let alone both.

http://www.citypopulation.de/USA.html

So your info is screwed dude. :P
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:33 PM   #23
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Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info
Where do I get my info ???
I bring the info to the debate .

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06059.html

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
I assume you are referring to the following counties as the San Antonio - Austin cooridor .

Bexar
Comal
Hays
Travis

I will even toss in :
Williamson

The total for these 5 counties is 2,834,413 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. , which by the way is 1 county is 2,957,766 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. has the advantage ......
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Old 09-14-2005, 08:30 AM   #24
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08 is correct OC is huge.....just go to an Angels or Ducks game and you will see how populated the county actualy is........Don't know about S.A.,but I doubt it's as dense as here...IMO
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by saintz08
Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info
Where do I get my info ???
I bring the info to the debate .

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06059.html

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
I assume you are referring to the following counties as the San Antonio - Austin cooridor .

Bexar
Comal
Hays
Travis

I will even toss in :
Williamson

The total for these 5 counties is 2,834,413 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. , which by the way is 1 county is 2,957,766 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. has the advantage ......
I see your population figures 08, and raise you a county map. I should have known this since I was in Diamond Bar, CA mid month August, even went to Disney World, LA county and Orange County are right on top of each other. There is no way in HELL the NFL would consider putting a team in one, and then the other. Plus San Diego is right down the road. So if either Orange County or LA County gets a team, that's it for that market. Two franchises have already failed there. SO thusly, they count as ONE market, just like Austin San Antonio. Putting two teams in that same area would be like Jefferson PArish saying they want an NFL team now, that's how close they are. So ha!!! LA and Orange County counts as one entity when talking about placement of an NFL franchise, thus their pop figure total counts as 12 mil or so. That makes San Antonio/Austin second. And like I said before, that doesn't even include south to Laredo, even Mexico and west to El Paso. Gotcha bro. Nice try though. You tried to divide an area that is geographically the same. Not flying. Sorry my man. I am still right. :P
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:19 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Originally Posted by saintz08
Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info
Where do I get my info ???
I bring the info to the debate .

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06059.html

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
I assume you are referring to the following counties as the San Antonio - Austin cooridor .

Bexar
Comal
Hays
Travis

I will even toss in :
Williamson

The total for these 5 counties is 2,834,413 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. , which by the way is 1 county is 2,957,766 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. has the advantage ......
I see your population figures 08, and raise you a county map. I should have known this since I was in Diamond Bar, CA mid month August, even went to Disney World, LA county and Orange County are right on top of each other. There is no way in HELL the NFL would consider putting a team in one, and then the other. Plus San Diego is right down the road. So if either Orange County or LA County gets a team, that's it for that market. Two franchises have already failed there. SO thusly, they count as ONE market, just like Austin San Antonio. Putting two teams in that same area would be like Jefferson PArish saying they want an NFL team now, that's how close they are. So ha!!! LA and Orange County counts as one entity when talking about placement of an NFL franchise, thus their pop figure total counts as 12 mil or so. That makes San Antonio/Austin second. And like I said before, that doesn't even include south to Laredo, even Mexico and west to El Paso. Gotcha bro. Nice try though. You tried to divide an area that is geographically the same. Not flying. Sorry my man. I am still right. :P
You can toss in all the counties of : Webb , LaSalle , Duval , McMullen , Frio and Medina .

Still come up short on Riverside County with 1, 782,650

By the way , it is Disneyland in Anaheim , not Disney World .....

You are wrong :P
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:50 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by saintz08
Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Originally Posted by saintz08
Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info
Where do I get my info ???
I bring the info to the debate .

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06059.html

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
I assume you are referring to the following counties as the San Antonio - Austin cooridor .

Bexar
Comal
Hays
Travis

I will even toss in :
Williamson

The total for these 5 counties is 2,834,413 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. , which by the way is 1 county is 2,957,766 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. has the advantage ......
I see your population figures 08, and raise you a county map. I should have known this since I was in Diamond Bar, CA mid month August, even went to Disney World, LA county and Orange County are right on top of each other. There is no way in HELL the NFL would consider putting a team in one, and then the other. Plus San Diego is right down the road. So if either Orange County or LA County gets a team, that's it for that market. Two franchises have already failed there. SO thusly, they count as ONE market, just like Austin San Antonio. Putting two teams in that same area would be like Jefferson PArish saying they want an NFL team now, that's how close they are. So ha!!! LA and Orange County counts as one entity when talking about placement of an NFL franchise, thus their pop figure total counts as 12 mil or so. That makes San Antonio/Austin second. And like I said before, that doesn't even include south to Laredo, even Mexico and west to El Paso. Gotcha bro. Nice try though. You tried to divide an area that is geographically the same. Not flying. Sorry my man. I am still right. :P
You can toss in all the counties of : Webb , LaSalle , Duval , McMullen , Frio and Medina .

Still come up short on Riverside County with 1, 782,650

By the way , it is Disneyland in Anaheim , not Disney World .....

You are wrong :P
Disney Land, Disney World, same difference. It's still Disney right? Anywho, Riverside is less than Austin/San Antonio, AND they already have one team in SoCal, so as far as NFL expansion they would only get one more, FOR THE AREA. So a slong as you are looking there, you are dead wrong. That whole area counts as ONE PIECE. Just like Austin/San Antonio counts as ONE PIECE. Give it up. You tried. You wanted to split a huge area into parts to prove a point, and it almost worked. But the county map did you in. And the fact that So Cal has one team already did that in. That area is the largest area in populus without a team, San Antonio/Austin with all parts South and West is second. That doesn't change whether Disney Land, Disney World, Disney ISland, Disney Planet, or Disney Universe is in Anaheim or Florida. You are wrong. And you started out wrong showing some article about MEDIA size, and continued to try to adjust from that gaffe. Sorry bro, maybe next time. :P
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LOL... boy you guys are in rare form today. My only question is is it possible for O.C. and the San Antonio/Austin Corridor to both get teamswhile leaving the Saints in New Orleans. (IMHO) the Saints will be in New Orleans. There is a ton of pressure on the NFL from all angles to keep the team in New Orleans. From a PR stand point its the right thing to do. From a financial Stand point its the right thing to do. Also if I remember correctly before this Katrina Krap Kicked OFF, the debate was refurbish the Dome or build a new stadium. Now its no debate. One or the other is going to happen. And it depends on the condition of the dome. Right bnow the process is moving forward and we will no soon which direction things are going to go. Before this disastor we didn't know what was going to happen or if anything was going to happen. Now we know somthing is going to happen. The Dome can't sit in it's current state. On top of all this, we have already seen the pressure of politics and the media. Just over a week ago Benson was "reportedly sneaking around trying to sneak out of New Orleans. Now "at least publicly" Benson is talking about a commitment to rebuilding and keeping the Saints in New Orleans. What happen to the old dirty bastard that would torment us with silence and talk cut offs and calculated media leaks to hold our city hostage.........CNN. The spotlight is on Benson and the NFL. And everyone wants to look like the good guy. Except red. He's to old to give a damn.

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Old 09-14-2005, 05:36 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by saintz08
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Originally Posted by saintz08
Okay 08, I don't know where you are getting your info
Where do I get my info ???
I bring the info to the debate .

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06059.html

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
I assume you are referring to the following counties as the San Antonio - Austin cooridor .

Bexar
Comal
Hays
Travis

I will even toss in :
Williamson

The total for these 5 counties is 2,834,413 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. , which by the way is 1 county is 2,957,766 established by the 2003 U.S. Census .

The O.C. has the advantage ......
I see your population figures 08, and raise you a county map. I should have known this since I was in Diamond Bar, CA mid month August, even went to Disney World, LA county and Orange County are right on top of each other. There is no way in HELL the NFL would consider putting a team in one, and then the other. Plus San Diego is right down the road. So if either Orange County or LA County gets a team, that's it for that market. Two franchises have already failed there. SO thusly, they count as ONE market, just like Austin San Antonio. Putting two teams in that same area would be like Jefferson PArish saying they want an NFL team now, that's how close they are. So ha!!! LA and Orange County counts as one entity when talking about placement of an NFL franchise, thus their pop figure total counts as 12 mil or so. That makes San Antonio/Austin second. And like I said before, that doesn't even include south to Laredo, even Mexico and west to El Paso. Gotcha bro. Nice try though. You tried to divide an area that is geographically the same. Not flying. Sorry my man. I am still right. :P
You can toss in all the counties of : Webb , LaSalle , Duval , McMullen , Frio and Medina .

Still come up short on Riverside County with 1, 782,650

By the way , it is Disneyland in Anaheim , not Disney World .....

You are wrong :P
Disney Land, Disney World, same difference. It's still Disney right? Anywho, Riverside is less than Austin/San Antonio, AND they already have one team in SoCal, so as far as NFL expansion they would only get one more, FOR THE AREA. So a slong as you are looking there, you are dead wrong. That whole area counts as ONE PIECE. Just like Austin/San Antonio counts as ONE PIECE. Give it up. You tried. You wanted to split a huge area into parts to prove a point, and it almost worked. But the county map did you in. And the fact that So Cal has one team already did that in. That area is the largest area in populus without a team, San Antonio/Austin with all parts South and West is second. That doesn't change whether Disney Land, Disney World, Disney ISland, Disney Planet, or Disney Universe is in Anaheim or Florida. You are wrong. And you started out wrong showing some article about MEDIA size, and continued to try to adjust from that gaffe. Sorry bro, maybe next time. :P
Your losing it today ..... :P

You are wrong. And you started out wrong showing some article about MEDIA size
What I started out showing you was the :
2005 State of the City Address given by Mayor Curt Pringle of the city of Anaheim. City seal and all ....

Where he indicates he has been contacted by the NFL to supply a proposal for a NFL franchise , with demographics other then the ones used by the Los Angeles / Ventura counties .

They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County
Now the counties they are using for the proposal total around 8 million people .

Now you got that between San Antonio , Austin , Laredo and Bare Butt Briar Patch ????
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