Which former Saint player do you miss the most?

TheGambler · 10-08-2005, 12:44 AM

Please try not to go too far over 10 years back. For instance, even though you might miss Archie Manning, Bobbie Hebert, or Eric Martin, it's a moot point to discuss any of them at this point.

Other than that, anybody is fair game. Whether it's "that Carolina QB" that you miss, or whether it's Toby Gowin, discuss

(a) the player you miss most

(b) why you miss him.

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(a) Had alot of good choices here, but it came down to Willie Roaf and Willie Jackson. When the dust settled, I chose Willie Jackson

(b) Willie Jackson, despite not being a real speed burner, always seemed to find ways to get open..........and more importantly, he was a major deep threat. It would have been much tougher to defeat the Rams in the '00 Wildcard game, as well as in the '01 regular season, without Willie Jackson on the team. As good as our WR's are right now....I dare say we have never really been able to replace the deep threat capabilites of Willie Jax. I'm hoping Devery takes that role.

I later heard several derrogatory terms thrown around about Willie Jax, such as "locker room cancer" and things of that nature. Can anyone give me the 411 on this guy, and let me know what was so unbearable about him that we couldn't keep him around?

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2005, 10:08 AM

... I would've asked "other than the Carolina QB", otherwise you know where this is going to end...

On offense, Willie Roaf for obvious reasons.
On defense, Sammy Knight. He always seemed to make a play when needed.

BoudinSandwich · 10-08-2005, 12:11 PM

I agree with Sammy Knight. He was probably my favorite recent football player to wear the black and gold. He was one of the hardest hitting safeties in the NFL and always came up with big plays. He was a ball-hawk.

D_it_up · 10-08-2005, 12:17 PM

Player I miss the most?: LeRoi Glover

Why? Isn't it obvious? We haven't had a DT worth spitting on since he left. 'Nuff said!

BoudinSandwich · 10-08-2005, 12:26 PM

I definately miss Glover, Roaf, Fontenot, Hand, Pathon, maybe even Grady Jackson. I don't care about the weight issue. Atleast our defense could clog things up back then. Notably, most of these players are linemen. I almost dare take Turley back. Granted, he is a tumor, but he wasn't THAT controversial here(though, he did have his moments.) The fact is, he could play. Our offensive line is hurting right now. I admit, give them a year or two and they'll gel together. I just don't like waiting.

BoudinSandwich · 10-08-2005, 02:20 PM

We all miss Jackson and Mills, but the thread was intended for younger players.

chRxis · 10-08-2005, 03:49 PM

bobby hebert b/c he's from not too far from where i grew up, he went to the same college i went to, and most of all, he led the saints to the playoffs... i know ppl are going to say "well, aaron led the saints to the playoffs".... bullsh#t.... jeff blake led the saints, and aaron basically came in and tried not to screw it up... when he came in that year we were already sitting pretty for a playoff spot, so he didn't do anything spectacular IMO

SapperSaint · 10-09-2005, 12:27 AM

I do not miss Roaf. He had given up on the team and basiclly quit. So as far as I'm concerened he can "Stick It".
I miss Sammy, we should have kept him.

As far as older players.....Jackson, Mills, and Dalton.

frankeefrank · 10-09-2005, 01:54 AM

I MISS Sam Mills...

If you're talking about players we can use...

Terrell Smith or Jerry Fontenot
It's an unpopular vote, but those guys were apart of a special offense.
running and passing

Saint_LB · 10-09-2005, 02:50 AM

This is a really stupid thread. Why didn't you just say anyone who is older than, say, 30, not even bother to participate? For some reason you have always wanted to separate the Saints of the last decade with the teams prior to that? Why would it be a "moot" point to discuss someone like Archie. I would imagine people know more about Archie and his family than most any of today's regulars.

Billy, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you are "the Gambler", and I thought this site had banned you. Guess not.

10-08-2005, 12:44 AM	#1
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Which former Saint player do you miss the most? Please try not to go too far over 10 years back. For instance, even though you might miss Archie Manning, Bobbie Hebert, or Eric Martin, it's a moot point to discuss any of them at this point. Other than that, anybody is fair game. Whether it's "that Carolina QB" that you miss, or whether it's Toby Gowin, discuss (a) the player you miss most (b) why you miss him. ---------------------- (a) Had alot of good choices here, but it came down to Willie Roaf and Willie Jackson. When the dust settled, I chose Willie Jackson (b) Willie Jackson, despite not being a real speed burner, always seemed to find ways to get open..........and more importantly, he was a major deep threat. It would have been much tougher to defeat the Rams in the '00 Wildcard game, as well as in the '01 regular season, without Willie Jackson on the team. As good as our WR's are right now....I dare say we have never really been able to replace the deep threat capabilites of Willie Jax. I'm hoping Devery takes that role. I later heard several derrogatory terms thrown around about Willie Jax, such as "locker room cancer" and things of that nature. Can anyone give me the 411 on this guy, and let me know what was so unbearable about him that we couldn't keep him around?
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frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	I miss... I MISS Sam Mills... If you're talking about players we can use... Terrell Smith or Jerry Fontenot It's an unpopular vote, but those guys were apart of a special offense. running and passing
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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	This is a really stupid thread. Why didn't you just say anyone who is older than, say, 30, not even bother to participate? For some reason you have always wanted to separate the Saints of the last decade with the teams prior to that? Why would it be a "moot" point to discuss someone like Archie. I would imagine people know more about Archie and his family than most any of today's regulars. Billy, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you are "the Gambler", and I thought this site had banned you. Guess not.
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10-08-2005, 10:08 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	... I would've asked "other than the Carolina QB", otherwise you know where this is going to end... On offense, Willie Roaf for obvious reasons. On defense, Sammy Knight. He always seemed to make a play when needed.

10-08-2005, 12:11 PM	#3
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	I agree with Sammy Knight. He was probably my favorite recent football player to wear the black and gold. He was one of the hardest hitting safeties in the NFL and always came up with big plays. He was a ball-hawk.

10-08-2005, 12:17 PM	#4
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Player I miss the most?: LeRoi Glover Why? Isn't it obvious? We haven't had a DT worth spitting on since he left. 'Nuff said!

10-08-2005, 12:26 PM	#5
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	I definately miss Glover, Roaf, Fontenot, Hand, Pathon, maybe even Grady Jackson. I don't care about the weight issue. Atleast our defense could clog things up back then. Notably, most of these players are linemen. I almost dare take Turley back. Granted, he is a tumor, but he wasn't THAT controversial here(though, he did have his moments.) The fact is, he could play. Our offensive line is hurting right now. I admit, give them a year or two and they'll gel together. I just don't like waiting.

10-08-2005, 02:20 PM	#6
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	We all miss Jackson and Mills, but the thread was intended for younger players.

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chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	bobby hebert b/c he's from not too far from where i grew up, he went to the same college i went to, and most of all, he led the saints to the playoffs... i know ppl are going to say "well, aaron led the saints to the playoffs".... bullsh#t.... jeff blake led the saints, and aaron basically came in and tried not to screw it up... when he came in that year we were already sitting pretty for a playoff spot, so he didn't do anything spectacular IMO

10-09-2005, 12:27 AM	#8
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I do not miss Roaf. He had given up on the team and basiclly quit. So as far as I'm concerened he can "Stick It". I miss Sammy, we should have kept him. As far as older players.....Jackson, Mills, and Dalton.