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CheramieIII 10-09-2005 01:07 PM

AB sucks!!!!
 
For those who saw some hope after last week, I guess you're ok now with me saying that AB sucks and will always be inconsistent and never a great QB in the nfl. It's his brain guys not his skills. He has none of the former.

FrenzyFan 10-09-2005 01:33 PM

Yup. Nothin' new here. We're in year six with the same old crap from Brooks. Yet, every year there are some who say it'll be different this time.

I had enough of it two years ago, but then again they call me a Brooks basher.

Rsanders24 10-09-2005 01:42 PM

Brooks sucks, O-line sucks, Defense sucks, coaching staff sucks, everyone on this whole team sucks! So what's your point? I don't care if we had Manning on our team we would still suck because someone else would definitely make up for it!!!

CheramieIII 10-09-2005 01:51 PM

That was my point that he has no brains and neither does anyone else on the team, but it starts with the QB and coach

GoldenTomb 10-09-2005 01:51 PM

Hebert says we should've drafted Odell Thurman....I said Derrick Johnson....either would be worlds better than what we have.

Its my freakin birthday today and all i wanted was for the Saints not to lose today....i would've accepted a tie.....they can't even do that.

Doesn't make sense to get mad about AB anymore....all this does is reinforce what observant fans have been saying for years.

SaintStoneyMount 10-09-2005 02:03 PM

I can't seriously back ABrooks anymore after today. I tried to stay nuetral on this issue but AB has forced me into this position. He has got to go.The coaching staff should be taken out and shot. This is ridiculous. This is pathetic. It's damn 42-3. What the hell is this? Somebody needs to lose their job. AB needs to go. Haz needs to go. Venturi never should have been here. Trade, cut, assasinate...I don't care just get these *******s out of here. :biggun:

CHACHING 10-09-2005 02:11 PM

word.

saintswhodi 10-09-2005 02:14 PM

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Doesn't make sense to get mad about AB anymore....all this does is reinforce what observant fans have been saying for years.
*Sigh*

chRxis 10-09-2005 06:51 PM

we have to make some roster moves before week 6... plain and simple. we cannot and will not compete with the roster we currently have.... it's a travesty! but we're the suckers here, b/c we're the ones who hold out hope that the offseason moves and signings and draft will finally help this franchise "get over the hump" and become a team that can compete in their conference... hell, they couldn't compete in their own state (LSU would win, trust me)

BrooksMustGo 10-09-2005 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenTomb
Hebert says we should've drafted Odell Thurman....I said Derrick Johnson....either would be worlds better than what we have.

Its my freakin birthday today and all i wanted was for the Saints not to lose today....i would've accepted a tie.....they can't even do that.

Doesn't make sense to get mad about AB anymore....all this does is reinforce what observant fans have been saying for years.

GT, happy birthday man. Sorry it turned out this way for you.

I agree on the LB situation. The front office and coaching staff have not made a meaningful move at the position since the start of the Haslett era. Even though, we have drafted a lot of LBs but we haven't drafted effective LBs. I think they've made some attempt to improve the position via the draft, but we all know that's kind of a crap shoot. What torques me off about the organization is that we constantly refuse to make a move on a quality free agent.

However, I am cautiously optimistic about Fincher being both:
1. Smart and a
2. Playmaker
Its a shame he hurt himself in pre-season.

As for AB, he's doing exactly what he's shown us he will do for years. You can't count on him.

CheramieIII 10-09-2005 07:43 PM

Brooks is a dumb period and should not be a QB in the NFLand the whole team needs to be retired or moved to LA.

BrooksMustGo 10-09-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
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sO YOU CALL NEVER TAKING A lb WITH ANY OF YOUR TOP TIER DRAFT PICKS A ATTEMPT AT MAKING IT BETTER?? USING A 2ND, 2ND ROUNDER ON c.wATSON WAS OUR HIGHEST PICK USED, Number 54 or 60.

And since when is counting on your QB more important than counting on your team?? AB didn't play grerat but he didn't stink up the joint either, the team did when can you people finally get that through your heads??

I question the wisdom of even responding to you. You seem a bit irrational after the loss...

In 2001, we drafted S Hodge at #70. He was our 2nd actual pick in that draft.
In 2002, we drafted J Allen at #82. He was our 4th pick in the draft.
In 2003, we drafted C Grant at #86. He was our 3rd pick in that draft.
In 2004, we drafted C Watson at #60. He was our 3rd pick, but in the 2nd round.
In 2004, we drafted C Bockwoldt at #240. He came in the 7th round, but does actually start for us.
In 2005, we drafted A Fincher at #82. He was our 3rd pick (I think).

So in 5 years we draft 6 LBs, 5 of them on the first day. The one guy we didn't draft on the first day actually starts for us now.

Now, our plans may not have worked out. Our draft picks haven't worked out at LB, but I don't think you can say that the team hasn't been attempting to address the position.

Or maybe you're arguing that the team didn't pick the guy YOU wanted or thought they should? Or that there is no way to get a valuable LB unless you use a 1st rounder for them?
As for MLBs -- Ed Hartwell was taken at 126 and he seems to have worked out well. Kendrell Bell and Jamie Winborn both went in the 2nd round and they are pretty good players. Napolean Harris went in the 1st round and isn't even with the team that drafted him and isn't setting the world on fire. Vilma went in the first round and can't shed blocks.

As for OLBs -- youre argument makes a bit more sense. Arrington was taken 2nd overall and I'm not sure I'd like him any more than the redskins. And the same draft that had Peterson and Bullock in the 1st round with Arrington had Ian Gold in the 2nd, Nail Diggs in the 4th, Gbaja-Biamila in the 5th, Dhani Jones and Adalius Thomas both in the 6th.
Will Witherspoon went at #73 and is arguably the best of that draft.
Terrell Suggs and DJ Williams both went in the first round in their years. But guys like Boss Bailey, Ted Lehman, Demorrio Williams, Karlos Dansby, and Tinoisamoa went no higher than early 2nd round.

I agree that a meaningful move needs to be made at the LB position. I'm arguing that we should have made a move on a known commodity via free agency.

You can criticize this team for MANY things, but we have drafted more than our share of LBs through the Haslett years. You may argue that Haslett can't evaluate a college LB and be totally correct, but you can't argue that we aren't drafting people to compete for the position.

CHACHING 10-09-2005 08:45 PM

Brooks is good if we are playin' the Panthers..(he's not great even then)
I'm sold ,the dude sucks!
I have been a staunch AB supporter in this forum from day one..but
NO MORE!
Is he the only reason we suck?
No
A big reason?
HELL YEA!
Our D need work, receivers,LB's,etc.....
BUT WE NEED A FIELD GENERAL!!!!
This dude looks to the sun for help..
clueless......IMO.

rock5025 10-10-2005 07:24 AM

Look, if someone still needs convincing that Brooks is a C- quarterback, then they aren't watching the games. He is representative of the whole. The team is low grade in talent and worse in game concentration. They suffer from lack of skill compounded by extreme lack of professionalism. Haslett is very poor as a coach and leader. For some reason he is unable to reach this team, prepare them for the opponent and derive their best efforts on game day. So, what do the Saints do with such poor performers. Pay them the bank and extend them for years into the future. Therefore, front office are idiots as well.

4saintspirit 10-10-2005 08:36 AM

While so true -- Bowman looked worse -- world of hurt

gandhi1007 10-11-2005 10:35 AM

Congratulations Aints!!! Our guys have managed yet again to make a highlight reel for another winless team. Aaron Brooks needs to trade his #2 Saints jersey in for an orange reflector vest & chase behind a garbage truck where he belongs! Hey Haslett, how are those stats now your always talking about. Jim "Has Been" Haslett is just as dumb as that moron he keeps at the helm. What coach keeps his star running back in aftera 42-3 route only to get his knee blown out. Congratulations dummy! Now you've managed to get the best offensive weapon on the team hurt for no reason. Any other coach would have had his pink slip waiting on him Monday morning. Lucky for Haslett, he works for an owner who is more concerned w/ selling tickets than actually winning games!!! Oh, by the way, how 'bout that defense!! If your reading this, Tom Benson, please fire the entire coaching staff & get rid of Brooks (not that any other team would give you more than a coke & a bag of chips for him)!!! It's sad to say, but I'm hoping we don't win another game this season. Maybe then, Haslett will get the axe & we will have a high enough draft pick to pick up Matt Leinhart. :evil: :evil: :idea: :idea: :evil: :evil:

saintswhodi 10-11-2005 10:42 AM

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Aaron Brooks needs to trade his #2 Saints jersey in for an orange reflector vest & chase behind a garbage truck where he belongs!
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& get rid of Brooks (not that any other team would give you more than a coke & a bag of chips for him)!!!
Welcome aboard gandhi. If that bag of chips is cool ranch doritos though, I think other teams will reject the deal. They're more valuable. :wink:


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