reshirt year for McPherson?

FLSaintsFan · 10-10-2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc.

How can you come to this conclusion? He hasn't even played! I may be proven wrong, but I don't think his past should be used to measure his potential. I say give him a shot. What could it hurt?

Also, maybe the Saints should start negotiations with San Diego now to get either Rivers or Brees. Just a thought.

Saint_LB · 10-10-2005, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Sometimes I wonder why this all seems so hard for this franchise. Other teams do it year in and year out, but these morons haven't figured it out once in half a century. .

IMO, this is where the problems begin. It is all on Benson, and his desire to put a product on the field that people will watch, but won't cost him too much money. If you look at that last statement, it is a recipe for mediocrity...which is what we have had for
the duration of Benson's ownership. Before that, with Mecom, it was pretty much more of the same.

You also have to factor in that most free agents have NO as last on their list, because of the losing mentality that this organization has, coupled with the fact that NO is not exactly the most idea place for someone to come and pick up big-time endorsements. It is just a losing situation all the way around, and the only way that I can see us ever fielding a championship team is that if by some miracle that one year all of the mediocre players somehow play way above their heads for an entire year....not likely.

lumm0x · 10-10-2005, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by FLSaintsFan

Originally Posted by lumm0x

...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc.

How can you come to this conclusion? He hasn't even played! I may be proven wrong, but I don't think his past should be used to measure his potential. I say give him a shot. What could it hurt?

Also, maybe the Saints should start negotiations with San Diego now to get either Rivers or Brees. Just a thought.

Basing it on his style of play in college, Arena Ball and pre-season. He reminds me of Aaron Brooks. Same skill set, same weaknesses. It's like their scouting reports are photocopied. Granted, he has potential, and it's not yet been wasted. But Aaron Brooks has had potential for well, 6 years now and what are we looking at every Sunday.

I hate to say it, but I will likely be prejudiced against this kid just because he reminds me so much of Brooks.

D-buck47 · 10-11-2005, 01:39 AM

With Duece out we may be in contenion for Leinart. At least the 49ers and Texans are worse. I'd rather go 4-12 than 8-8, it would give us a far better draft position. AJ Hawk?haha

mjf150 · 10-11-2005, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by saintz08

Originally Posted by lumm0x

I agree. Bowman is no future for us...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc.

I would love to see us get a good game manager. Someone who has football smarts and fire in his belly. A guy who knows what the game clock looks like, gets in the faces of his teammates and turns them into fighters. I was waiting for AB to start up a game of 3 card Monte on the sidelines today and crack jokes with the guys.

He went to Carolina ......

Well said. That couldn't be more true.

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 09:53 AM

Why do people just automatically assume we're gonna be so much better if we get Matt Leinhart?

Sure, he might be the next Peyton Manning or even a Carson Palmer. Or he might be a Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer...

Hell, Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick!

SaintStoneyMount · 10-11-2005, 11:13 AM

I hate to say it, but I will likely be prejudiced against this kid just because he reminds me so much of Brooks.

I'm not even going to go there with you, but the "P" word seems appropriate. This kid is a rookie. Brooks wasn't a rookie when he got to N.O. We need to give this kid a shot. He should have been in the game for the second half. Bouman is and always will be a back up and he knows it. We should have put the ball in AMACs hands.

APSaintsfan · 10-11-2005, 06:57 PM

I doubt this but I would love to have Marvin Lewis from Cinncinati. Look what he has done with his group of players. Damn he is a good Coach!!! Notice the word!!! A Coach!!!!!!

10-10-2005, 07:03 AM	#11
FLSaintsFan Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida's Space Coast Posts: 27	Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? Originally Posted by lumm0x ...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc. How can you come to this conclusion? He hasn't even played! I may be proven wrong, but I don't think his past should be used to measure his potential. I say give him a shot. What could it hurt? Also, maybe the Saints should start negotiations with San Diego now to get either Rivers or Brees. Just a thought.

10-10-2005, 07:07 AM	#12
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: RE: Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? Originally Posted by TheDeuce Sometimes I wonder why this all seems so hard for this franchise. Other teams do it year in and year out, but these morons haven't figured it out once in half a century. . IMO, this is where the problems begin. It is all on Benson, and his desire to put a product on the field that people will watch, but won't cost him too much money. If you look at that last statement, it is a recipe for mediocrity...which is what we have had for the duration of Benson's ownership. Before that, with Mecom, it was pretty much more of the same. You also have to factor in that most free agents have NO as last on their list, because of the losing mentality that this organization has, coupled with the fact that NO is not exactly the most idea place for someone to come and pick up big-time endorsements. It is just a losing situation all the way around, and the only way that I can see us ever fielding a championship team is that if by some miracle that one year all of the mediocre players somehow play way above their heads for an entire year....not likely.
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10-10-2005, 11:17 PM	#13
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? Originally Posted by FLSaintsFan Originally Posted by lumm0x ...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc. How can you come to this conclusion? He hasn't even played! I may be proven wrong, but I don't think his past should be used to measure his potential. I say give him a shot. What could it hurt? Also, maybe the Saints should start negotiations with San Diego now to get either Rivers or Brees. Just a thought. Basing it on his style of play in college, Arena Ball and pre-season. He reminds me of Aaron Brooks. Same skill set, same weaknesses. It's like their scouting reports are photocopied. Granted, he has potential, and it's not yet been wasted. But Aaron Brooks has had potential for well, 6 years now and what are we looking at every Sunday. I hate to say it, but I will likely be prejudiced against this kid just because he reminds me so much of Brooks.

10-11-2005, 01:39 AM	#14
D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	RE: Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? With Duece out we may be in contenion for Leinart. At least the 49ers and Texans are worse. I'd rather go 4-12 than 8-8, it would give us a far better draft position. AJ Hawk?haha
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10-11-2005, 08:14 AM	#15
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? Originally Posted by saintz08 Originally Posted by lumm0x I agree. Bowman is no future for us...but everytime I look at McPherson, all I see is a younger AB.....cannon arm, mobility.....lack of leadership, inability to read defenses, slow and poor decision making, etc, etc. I would love to see us get a good game manager. Someone who has football smarts and fire in his belly. A guy who knows what the game clock looks like, gets in the faces of his teammates and turns them into fighters. I was waiting for AB to start up a game of 3 card Monte on the sidelines today and crack jokes with the guys. He went to Carolina ...... Well said. That couldn't be more true.
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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Why do people just automatically assume we're gonna be so much better if we get Matt Leinhart? Sure, he might be the next Peyton Manning or even a Carson Palmer. Or he might be a Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer... Hell, Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick!
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SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	RE: Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? I hate to say it, but I will likely be prejudiced against this kid just because he reminds me so much of Brooks. I'm not even going to go there with you, but the "P" word seems appropriate. This kid is a rookie. Brooks wasn't a rookie when he got to N.O. We need to give this kid a shot. He should have been in the game for the second half. Bouman is and always will be a back up and he knows it. We should have put the ball in AMACs hands.

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APSaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 119	RE: Re: RE: reshirt year for McPherson? I doubt this but I would love to have Marvin Lewis from Cinncinati. Look what he has done with his group of players. Damn he is a good Coach!!! Notice the word!!! A Coach!!!!!!