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Old 10-24-2005, 08:41 AM   #1
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Updated: Oct. 24, 2005, 1:02 AM ET

Dolphins S Jones undergoes surgery for torn pectoral
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MIAMI -- Miami Dolphins safety Tebucky Jones underwent surgery to repair a right pectoral muscle tear and is expected to miss the rest of the season.

Dr. George Caldwell performed the surgery at Broward General Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale.

Jones suffered the injury in the Dolphins' 30-20 loss to Kansas City on Friday night.

Signed as a free agent last March, Jones had 24 tackles and two sacks in six games with the Dolphins (2-4). The 30-year-old Jones spent his first five seasons with the New England Patriots and was a member of their Super Bowl-winning team in 2001 before being traded to the New Orleans Saints in April 2003. He played two seasons with the Saints before being signed by Miami.

Last season, he started all 16 games at free safety for the Saints and set a career high with 110 tackles.


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Old 10-24-2005, 08:49 AM   #2
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Dolphins talk...


"If you watched the way the Saints collapsed today you would like our chances."



"We will only win if Aaron Brooks starts for them."



"If there were ever a team on our schedule that should be an "easy" win, the Saints would be it. If we muck this up.... oh man."



"Well, it is a home game for Saban. "


"Anyway, i wonder who the fans will be rooting for there? the saints, as they are the closest NFL team, or the Dolphins, because of Saban? I mean, college football over there is serious, it will be interesting to see where the loyalty lies."



"For security reasons they are not planning to sell tix for the whole stadium, only up to 75,000 or so. Right now they are expecting about 55K to show but i doubt it will be much more than that. Most people here are P.O.'d at the Saints owner because he's showing interest in San Antonio since noone knows how New Orleans will come back. The ower wasnt too popular to begin with so there will be some boycotts. Alot of people are going to see Nick though."


"OK, I'll just get right to it........."

NO's Passing Game Vs. Miami's Pass Defense:

Aaron Brooks has had his problems this year.......4 TD's and 8 INT's, but his problems are nothing in comparison to Miami's pass defense. Sam Madison has been decent but ALL of the other CB's have been flat out Horrible. Brooks will make a bunch of very bad plays, will try to do too much, and will turn the ball over, BUT, He also has all the skills to play in this league, and he "Can" pick a defense apart. Joe Horn might not play in this game, but their WR's are still very fast, and that could equal trouble for Miami's Secondary. If Miami doesn't get On Aaron Brooks, and their CB's continue to play like they have been it's going to be a VERY long day for the Phins. Brooks Will make some mistakes, but Miami has to force him to make them. EDGE: NO's(until Miami proves they can stop even just a decent QB/WR combo they don't deserve to be given the edge in this category)

NO's Run Game, Vs. Miami's Run Defense:

As we all know Deuce McAllister will not be playing, and that sounds like a very good thing for the Phins, but Antowain Smith, and Aaron Stecker have been pretty solid, and both of them are actually averaging more YPC than Deuce was before his Injury. Miami's Run D was Outstanding the first three games, and they have the players to pick that form back up, but they need to finish tackles. They make a lot of plays where they will get to the ball carrier at or behind the line of scrimmage, but will not make the tackle. Channing Crowder has done a pretty nice job for a Rookie, but he's been caught out of position an aweful lot as well. If Jr. Seau can play this week it will be a Huge lift for this defense, and we should see a pretty big improvement in this area. EDGE: Miami(they got pushed around a little bit by KC but That was KC, Miami's Run Defense will step it up again, and as mentioned before will get a big boost from Seau assuming he plays this week)

Miami's Pass Offense Vs. NO's Pass Defense:

New Orleans is ranked 5th in the league in pass defense, but that is mostly because their Run Defense has been so poor, and teams haven't needed to pass much against them(they have the second fewest pass attempts against them in the league). There will be opportunity's to throw the ball in this game, but the Huge question will be whether or not Miami can take advantage of them. Frerotte has been terrible at completing the big wide opens plays, if he just completes a couple of these per game Miami would be in good Shape. EDGE: Miami(Miami's WR's are better than NO's DB's and like I said there will be plenty of Opportunities here for them, Miami's QB HAS to hit on a couple of these eventually)

Miami's Run Offense Vs. NO's Run Defense:

NO's run defense has been pretty bad(ranked 26th in the league, and allowing 4.4 YPC). They don't really have any standout guys along their front 7, and teams so far have pretty much ran though them. Miami's O-line is shaky, and their ground game has been somewhat shaky as well, although a major part of that is because they just haven't ran the ball much. Ronnie Brown has looked spectacular the last few weeks, and needs to get the ball a lot more. Ricky Williams looks like he could break one at any time, but hasn't done much yet, and at this point in his comeback should just be a guy to give a breather for Ronnie Brown. EDGE: Miami(Only thing that would prevent Brown/Williams from having a big day is if the Coaching staff continues to keep the ball out of their hands, Especially Brown's. If Brown gets 20 or more carries this week, and RW gets a few more Miami's Rush Rankings will go up a few spots!!!)


OVERALL: Miami(Overall, Miami is just a more talented team, and this game really just comes down to a few things for the Phins.......Keep Brooks From Making Big Plays, Make Good On your Opportunities, and RUN THE BALL. Two of these shouldn't even be an issue because running the ball more is COMPLETELY in Miami's control so there's no excuse not to do it, and as I mentioned before they HAVE to be able to hit on a couple of plays eventually in the pass game. So just run The Ball, control the clock, and make the plays that you SHOULD make and it's win #3 for Miami)



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It will be Ricky's break out game. The fins need a win and here comes the cure called the Saints. Anyone think we have a chance is crazy. I do hope i'm proven wrong but we won't see another close competitive game until we playTampa. I would say New England but the weather will have an effect.
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Interesting post and responses at a Dolphins fan site...

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Dolphins practice with help of generator after Wilma

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DAVIE, Fla. -- Miami Dolphins coach Nick Saban planned to wait out Hurricane Wilma by watching game film at work. His wife said no.

"I tried to escape yesterday before the wind started blowing so I could come here where we had a generator and watch film and work during the storm," Saban said Tuesday at the team's complex. "And Terry politely said, 'If you leave the house now, I'm calling the cops and telling them to arrest you.'

"So that was basically the end of that."

Instead, Saban was home when the hurricane hit Monday. Later, he said, he stood in a foot of water and used a hand saw to remove a tree that fell on his front gate.

Despite damage from Wilma, Saban and his team returned to practice Tuesday. Many of the players left homes still without power.

"That's what we've got to deal with after we leave here," offensive tackle Damion McIntosh said. "While we're here, concentrate on what we've go to do as far as preparation and things like that. That's what we did. It wasn't a lot of talk about what happened."

Saban praised his team's focus on football under the circumstances.

"I don't care if you are a coach or player, you have family and personal issues and those things that are of concern," Saban said. "Everybody's safety is of concern. I have a great appreciation for the players and what they were able to do today to stay focused on the things that we wanted to try to get accomplished."

The Dolphins began preparations for their game Sunday in Baton Rouge against another team affected by a hurricane, the New Orleans Saints.

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It was suppose to be Ricky's break out game last week and the week before that.... lol. This game has the looks of an all out disaster for the Saints.
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Saints expect a different Williams on field

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SAN ANTONIO (AP) - As his season-long absence from football showed last year, Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams appears to be the same person who distanced himself from many of his Saints teammates.

"Ricky's just a different guy," said Saints receiver Joe Horn, Williams' teammate in New Orleans in 2000-01. "People he wanted to deal with, he did. And people he wanted to have nothing to do with, he didn't.

"No one could understand that. I don't think guys in the locker room could grasp that he wanted to be to himself, you know, quiet. If you didn't understand him and didn't know what he was about, it always kept people in suspense."

Williams and the Saints will meet on the football field for the first time since he was traded three years ago when the teams play Sunday at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, La.

Williams, the Heisman Trophy winner at Texas in 1998, came to the Saints with much fanfare. The Saints, under coach Mike Ditka, traded all their available draft picks from the 1999 draft - plus a first-round and a third-round choice the following year - to obtain Williams' rights from the Washington Redskins.

"It seems like after Coach Ditka left, things for me kind of fell apart. I went from the sweetheart of the organization to pretty much the goat," Williams said during a teleconference earlier this week.


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It was suppose to be Ricky's break out game last week and the week before that.... lol. This game has the looks of an all out disaster for the Saints.

It's not over yet. We have got to go crazy and support the Saints when they come. I pray we put it all together again this game. Last week we were almost there, but we have to keep the momentum going all game and not sit on our hands.

I can't tell if it's a disaster or not until after the game. Who can predict what will happen with this team ever??
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I pray we put it all together again this game.

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This game is probably going to be the highlight of the season. I'll be there. Oddly enough, I just might be there in one of two jerseys. I have a Ricky Williams Saints' jersey. I also have a Sammy Knight Saints' jersey. Granted Knight is no longer with the Dolphins, it is ironic. This entire matchup is ironic.
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