Monday morning QB

xan · 10-26-2005, 10:14 AM

I'm not saying AB is the only problem. I'm just saying that given all that there is going on with the Saints this season, having minimal deception to confuse the opposing defense is a significant contributor. This makeshift O-line has the disadvantage of having the opposing defense guess correctly what's coming, and of course they get beat and AB gets hammered.

But the coaches are to blame, not AB. He's doing the best he can under really bad circumstances. Not that he was doing that well in the best of circumstances, but he's actually a bright spot comparatively.

spkb25 · 10-26-2005, 10:15 AM

black we never scored 21 points against the eagles that year in the playoff game. we were a head 20-7. i am pretty sure if my memory serves me correct we lost 36-20. i think toi cook got beat up by fred barnett a couple of times. i am trying to remember it was so long ago. i am from jersey and my whole fam is eagles fans and i got my balls broke all day.

xan · 10-27-2005, 09:12 AM

Pro Bowl Level???? So ya think he's playing better than which of the following NFC QB's (remember 3 go to the Pro Bowl):

98.3 Mark Brunell
93.1 Bret Farve
94.9 Drew Bledsoe
90.8 Mark Bulger
90.3 Donovan McNabb
88.7 Eli Manning

At a Passing Rating of 69.5, Brooks is rated 27th out of 32 QBs with 3 games started. He's had two games with a rating over 90 and 2 games with ratings under 50. With the "dummied" down system, his rating has declined rather than improved; he's 10 points less than last year, which was down almost 10 points from the year before. Some of this is coaching, some of this is play calling. Some of this is the system. But he's not playing well in a system designed for his "special abilities." Now, if you had said Toilet Bowl....

TallySaint · 10-28-2005, 03:46 PM

Brooks isn't the worst, nor the best.

He's average on an average offense. Many reasons for his success, or lack of.

He's a talent, for sure. Unfortunately, he hasn't been a good fit. Not sure he's to blame.

I'll say this as politely as I can. Get off his ass.

8)

Tobias-Reiper · 10-28-2005, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

If you account for all the times you watch a WR, have the ball hit him in the stomach glance of his chin and go upside his head, how many times the TE either fumbles the catch are sticks it out where anybody could get it. See once again stats are misleading, this is what 4saintspirit was alluding to, by watching him play on the field he's done pretty good up until now. If he were playing on a better team there would be a great change in the stats you use.

..of course, for every other QB in the NFL, WRs and TEs don't drop passes...

...of course, all of Brooks' passes hit the reciever right on the numbers and on stride...

xan · 10-29-2005, 12:06 PM

Get off his ass or what, AB might cry? Better than that turd-eating grin he has on his face every time he screws up.

I'm not going to get off any underperformer making the kind of money he's making until they are consistently playing at an acceptable level.

CHACHING · 10-29-2005, 12:27 PM

Yeah 5.5 mil is no laughing matter....hahahaha..........
Brooks sucks but I must say that he has been a bright spot on the team in comparison.....
kinda like comparing different turds in the toilet....still just crap.....

saintswhodi · 10-29-2005, 06:06 PM

A) Never seen a QB with a 69.5 rating said to be playing at a "pro bowl level."

B) How easy it is to forget Brian Scott and Denagelo Hall dropping INTs in the Falcons game, and Travis Fisher doing the same in the Rams game. AB isn't playing any better, he is playing defenders who can't catch.

C) If you throw the ball 95 mph in the opposite direction of the way a receiver is running and it glances off is hands as he attempts to defy physics and catch it, then gets intercepted, that does not count as a drop. It counts as a bad pass, which is on the QB. Same as a 95 mph pass over the middle of the field to a receiver not even looking.

D) AB sucks, he's always sucked, and he always will suck. Does he ever play a whole game? He used to suck for the first 3 quarters then do something to make everyone forget in some 4th quarters of some games, now you never know which one quarter of good play per game you will get. I'll say this, he has been here long enough that our defense should know this, and should have adapted to that by now. I'll knock them for being late to realize who they have at QB.

SapperSaint · 10-30-2005, 05:47 AM

I still don't know how many times we can talk about.........

Does AB SUCK

or

Is AB a PRO-BOWLER

Who gives a crap! This whole team has NO IDEA how to win a football game. That includes everyone on the team.

Somebody PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.....

QUIT TALKING ABOUT AB!

We need to talk about how to fix this team, and drafting three-five players WILL NOT CHANGE THIS TEAM.

SapperSaint · 10-30-2005, 05:52 AM

Sorry to be so negative guys, just SICK AND TIRED OF F%&KIN' LOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-28-2005, 07:00 PM	#15
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack If you account for all the times you watch a WR, have the ball hit him in the stomach glance of his chin and go upside his head, how many times the TE either fumbles the catch are sticks it out where anybody could get it. See once again stats are misleading, this is what 4saintspirit was alluding to, by watching him play on the field he's done pretty good up until now. If he were playing on a better team there would be a great change in the stats you use. ..of course, for every other QB in the NFL, WRs and TEs don't drop passes... ...of course, all of Brooks' passes hit the reciever right on the numbers and on stride...

10-26-2005, 10:14 AM	#11
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	I'm not saying AB is the only problem. I'm just saying that given all that there is going on with the Saints this season, having minimal deception to confuse the opposing defense is a significant contributor. This makeshift O-line has the disadvantage of having the opposing defense guess correctly what's coming, and of course they get beat and AB gets hammered. But the coaches are to blame, not AB. He's doing the best he can under really bad circumstances. Not that he was doing that well in the best of circumstances, but he's actually a bright spot comparatively.

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10-26-2005, 10:15 AM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	black we never scored 21 points against the eagles that year in the playoff game. we were a head 20-7. i am pretty sure if my memory serves me correct we lost 36-20. i think toi cook got beat up by fred barnett a couple of times. i am trying to remember it was so long ago. i am from jersey and my whole fam is eagles fans and i got my balls broke all day.

10-27-2005, 09:12 AM	#13
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Pro Bowl Level???? So ya think he's playing better than which of the following NFC QB's (remember 3 go to the Pro Bowl): 98.3 Mark Brunell 93.1 Bret Farve 94.9 Drew Bledsoe 90.8 Mark Bulger 90.3 Donovan McNabb 88.7 Eli Manning At a Passing Rating of 69.5, Brooks is rated 27th out of 32 QBs with 3 games started. He's had two games with a rating over 90 and 2 games with ratings under 50. With the "dummied" down system, his rating has declined rather than improved; he's 10 points less than last year, which was down almost 10 points from the year before. Some of this is coaching, some of this is play calling. Some of this is the system. But he's not playing well in a system designed for his "special abilities." Now, if you had said Toilet Bowl....

10-28-2005, 03:46 PM	#14
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Brooks isn't the worst, nor the best. He's average on an average offense. Many reasons for his success, or lack of. He's a talent, for sure. Unfortunately, he hasn't been a good fit. Not sure he's to blame. I'll say this as politely as I can. Get off his ass. 8)

10-29-2005, 12:06 PM	#16
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	Get off his ass or what, AB might cry? Better than that turd-eating grin he has on his face every time he screws up. I'm not going to get off any underperformer making the kind of money he's making until they are consistently playing at an acceptable level.

10-29-2005, 12:27 PM	#17
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Yeah 5.5 mil is no laughing matter....hahahaha.......... Brooks sucks but I must say that he has been a bright spot on the team in comparison..... kinda like comparing different turds in the toilet....still just crap.....

10-29-2005, 06:06 PM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	A) Never seen a QB with a 69.5 rating said to be playing at a "pro bowl level." B) How easy it is to forget Brian Scott and Denagelo Hall dropping INTs in the Falcons game, and Travis Fisher doing the same in the Rams game. AB isn't playing any better, he is playing defenders who can't catch. C) If you throw the ball 95 mph in the opposite direction of the way a receiver is running and it glances off is hands as he attempts to defy physics and catch it, then gets intercepted, that does not count as a drop. It counts as a bad pass, which is on the QB. Same as a 95 mph pass over the middle of the field to a receiver not even looking. D) AB sucks, he's always sucked, and he always will suck. Does he ever play a whole game? He used to suck for the first 3 quarters then do something to make everyone forget in some 4th quarters of some games, now you never know which one quarter of good play per game you will get. I'll say this, he has been here long enough that our defense should know this, and should have adapted to that by now. I'll knock them for being late to realize who they have at QB.

10-30-2005, 05:47 AM	#19
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I still don't know how many times we can talk about......... Does AB SUCK or Is AB a PRO-BOWLER Who gives a crap! This whole team has NO IDEA how to win a football game. That includes everyone on the team. Somebody PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..... QUIT TALKING ABOUT AB! We need to talk about how to fix this team, and drafting three-five players WILL NOT CHANGE THIS TEAM.

10-30-2005, 05:52 AM	#20
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Sorry to be so negative guys, just SICK AND TIRED OF F%&KIN' LOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!