Peter King

saintswhodi · 10-31-2005, 10:50 AM

2. I think, and I do not mean to call out this man every week, but I'm picking on Aaron Brooks again. He makes some of the dumbest plays I've ever seen in a football game. Did you see that 25-yard sack he took? Inexcusable. And the safety? Yes, the offensive line is killing New Orleans. There is something about the instinct of playing quarterback that Brooks is missing.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...qb.mara/4.html

BoudinSandwich · 10-31-2005, 10:56 AM

Gus Frerotte could have had a better performance behind our offensive line than Brooks.

lynwood · 10-31-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

2. I think, and I do not mean to call out this man every week, but I'm picking on Aaron Brooks again. He makes some of the dumbest plays I've ever seen in a football game. Did you see that 25-yard sack he took? Inexcusable. And the safety? Yes, the offensive line is killing New Orleans. There is something about the instinct of playing quarterback that Brooks is missing.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...qb.mara/4.html

Preachin' to the choir brother.

xan · 10-31-2005, 11:43 AM

Sports Illustrated, ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS Sports and countless other football analysts and writers have been saying the same thing for almost 3 years, in addition to many posters here. What is it about AB that this FO sees that the rest of the world doesn't?

Tobias-Reiper · 10-31-2005, 11:52 AM

"POTENTIAL"...

..that, and fear of change...

Halo · 10-31-2005, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

"POTENTIAL"...

..that, and fear of change...

I agree with that. Potential is what he has. But only with the correct coaching. He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader.

On one play yesterday he fumbled the snap for the 2nd time that day. He got booed and then the next play you could see it in his eyes, he had this attitude like "you think that was bad, watch this," and then he rolled into the endzone and was sacked for a safety in the back of the end zone mind you, not trying to make his way out.

I think he's done if you ask me. He'll start the rest of the season but I think he's done and may be a backup the rest of his time in the NFL.

saintswhodi · 10-31-2005, 12:08 PM

He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader.

Actually Halo, he was sent to leadership classes off-season before last. Fat lot of good that did. And the coaches for two years have barked how he has been more vocal in the offseason and leading the team, before they have to play actual games that is. Coaching plays a part, but some people just don't have it. AB doesn't have it, has never had it, and it can't be taught to him.

Docoperater · 10-31-2005, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

"POTENTIAL"...

..that, and fear of change...

I agree with that. Potential is what he has. But only with the correct coaching. He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader.

On one play yesterday he fumbled the snap for the 2nd time that day. He got booed and then the next play you could see it in his eyes, he had this attitude like "you think that was bad, watch this," and then he rolled into the endzone and was sacked for a safety in the back of the end zone mind you, not trying to make his way out.

I think he's done if you ask me. He'll start the rest of the season but I think he's done and may be a backup the rest of his time in the NFL.

I agree with you Halo, Brooks doesnt have the natural leader insticts, and guys around him can sense that. Brooks can make every NFL throw there is, and better than most QB'S. But the lack of leadership has really hurt his game.

Lifer · 10-31-2005, 03:54 PM

Bottom line, Brooks does not have IT. "IT" being defined as the rare combination of skills, instincts and leadership to win football games. Favre has IT, Brady has IT, Manning has IT, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Elway, Aikman all had IT. Saints will never rise above mediocrity with Brooks at the helm. And depressingly, mediocrity as a goal seems out of reach for this year...I'm not saying the Saints miserable showing these past few years is all Brook's fault. It's not. there is plenty of blame to go around. But Brooks is not the man becuase he does not have IT. And Brooks will never develop IT. Some guys have IT and some don't.

LordOfEntropy · 10-31-2005, 04:14 PM

Jeff Blake took us to 10-6 in 2000. Though Aaron played the playoff game, it was not Brooks that got us there.

IMO, the wrong choice was made the following season. I know Blake opened cold, and the broken leg was a concern. Still, I think Blake earned 2001 year as the starter. Instead, Brooks was chosen, given a phat contract, and the team has teeeeeetered ever since, then spiraled downward. Blake should've been chosen, and a young quarterback should've been drafted or traded to groom behind him.

Still, my main gripe isn't with Aaron, or any other player on the team, for that matter. Rather, I believe the fundamental problem starts at the top, in particular at the desk of Tom Benson (for evidence, see R. Meuller, A Fielkow). He's an idiot, and whatever success this team may have achieved, he fired it before it could blossom.

Insert sarcasm here.... "boy, trading away Ricky Williams for two first round draft picks just before he decides to retire, well, what a -BONEHEAD- move. It's -such- an idiot move, lemme just fire the guy who made that terrible decision." -- Translation, Benson is an idiot, and should keep his nose out of operations.

Seriously, though, as long as Benson owns this team, it'll never be successful. I'm waiting for him to die. Coldblooded as it sounds, perhaps we'll finally taste success after that cretin expires.

10-31-2005, 10:50 AM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Peter King 2. I think, and I do not mean to call out this man every week, but I'm picking on Aaron Brooks again. He makes some of the dumbest plays I've ever seen in a football game. Did you see that 25-yard sack he took? Inexcusable. And the safety? Yes, the offensive line is killing New Orleans. There is something about the instinct of playing quarterback that Brooks is missing. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...qb.mara/4.html

10-31-2005, 10:56 AM	#2
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: Peter King Gus Frerotte could have had a better performance behind our offensive line than Brooks.

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lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Peter King Originally Posted by saintswhodi 2. I think, and I do not mean to call out this man every week, but I'm picking on Aaron Brooks again. He makes some of the dumbest plays I've ever seen in a football game. Did you see that 25-yard sack he took? Inexcusable. And the safety? Yes, the offensive line is killing New Orleans. There is something about the instinct of playing quarterback that Brooks is missing. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...qb.mara/4.html Preachin' to the choir brother.

10-31-2005, 11:43 AM	#4
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: Peter King Sports Illustrated, ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS Sports and countless other football analysts and writers have been saying the same thing for almost 3 years, in addition to many posters here. What is it about AB that this FO sees that the rest of the world doesn't?

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	Re: RE: Re: Peter King Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper "POTENTIAL"... ..that, and fear of change... I agree with that. Potential is what he has. But only with the correct coaching. He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader. On one play yesterday he fumbled the snap for the 2nd time that day. He got booed and then the next play you could see it in his eyes, he had this attitude like "you think that was bad, watch this," and then he rolled into the endzone and was sacked for a safety in the back of the end zone mind you, not trying to make his way out. I think he's done if you ask me. He'll start the rest of the season but I think he's done and may be a backup the rest of his time in the NFL.

10-31-2005, 12:08 PM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader. Actually Halo, he was sent to leadership classes off-season before last. Fat lot of good that did. And the coaches for two years have barked how he has been more vocal in the offseason and leading the team, before they have to play actual games that is. Coaching plays a part, but some people just don't have it. AB doesn't have it, has never had it, and it can't be taught to him.

10-31-2005, 02:43 PM	#8
Docoperater Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Iberia, La Posts: 9	Re: RE: Re: Peter King Originally Posted by Halo Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper "POTENTIAL"... ..that, and fear of change... I agree with that. Potential is what he has. But only with the correct coaching. He is not a leader and no one has done anything to make him into a leader. On one play yesterday he fumbled the snap for the 2nd time that day. He got booed and then the next play you could see it in his eyes, he had this attitude like "you think that was bad, watch this," and then he rolled into the endzone and was sacked for a safety in the back of the end zone mind you, not trying to make his way out. I think he's done if you ask me. He'll start the rest of the season but I think he's done and may be a backup the rest of his time in the NFL. I agree with you Halo, Brooks doesnt have the natural leader insticts, and guys around him can sense that. Brooks can make every NFL throw there is, and better than most QB'S. But the lack of leadership has really hurt his game.
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10-31-2005, 03:54 PM	#9
Lifer Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69	RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Bottom line, Brooks does not have IT. "IT" being defined as the rare combination of skills, instincts and leadership to win football games. Favre has IT, Brady has IT, Manning has IT, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Elway, Aikman all had IT. Saints will never rise above mediocrity with Brooks at the helm. And depressingly, mediocrity as a goal seems out of reach for this year...I'm not saying the Saints miserable showing these past few years is all Brook's fault. It's not. there is plenty of blame to go around. But Brooks is not the man becuase he does not have IT. And Brooks will never develop IT. Some guys have IT and some don't.
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10-31-2005, 04:14 PM	#10
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Jeff Blake took us to 10-6 in 2000. Though Aaron played the playoff game, it was not Brooks that got us there. IMO, the wrong choice was made the following season. I know Blake opened cold, and the broken leg was a concern. Still, I think Blake earned 2001 year as the starter. Instead, Brooks was chosen, given a phat contract, and the team has teeeeeetered ever since, then spiraled downward. Blake should've been chosen, and a young quarterback should've been drafted or traded to groom behind him. Still, my main gripe isn't with Aaron, or any other player on the team, for that matter. Rather, I believe the fundamental problem starts at the top, in particular at the desk of Tom Benson (for evidence, see R. Meuller, A Fielkow). He's an idiot, and whatever success this team may have achieved, he fired it before it could blossom. Insert sarcasm here.... "boy, trading away Ricky Williams for two first round draft picks just before he decides to retire, well, what a -BONEHEAD- move. It's -such- an idiot move, lemme just fire the guy who made that terrible decision." -- Translation, Benson is an idiot, and should keep his nose out of operations. Seriously, though, as long as Benson owns this team, it'll never be successful. I'm waiting for him to die. Coldblooded as it sounds, perhaps we'll finally taste success after that cretin expires.
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