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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Yeah, but just because San Fran, Green Bay, & Tennessee already have a "QB of the Future", doesn't mean anything. In fact, it probably makes them more likely to trade down to get more picks. Leinart will not fall any ...

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:45 PM   #41
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Yeah, but just because San Fran, Green Bay, & Tennessee already have a "QB of the Future", doesn't mean anything. In fact, it probably makes them more likely to trade down to get more picks. Leinart will not fall any further than 2 or 3, if that. Whether or not a team needs a QB will be irrellavent, because those teams that do not will have alot to gain from those who do want Lienart. The only guarantee the Saints have at Lienart is to finish with the worst record. Beyond that, nothing is for certain.
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:58 PM   #42
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I will guarantee you if we end up 6 or 7 we will either trade up to get Leinhart or trade down to get alot more picks. 6 or 7 this year is going to be a toss up between 20 different players and I wish we still had Randy and you all know who I be speakin bout. Don mak my gheto cum out!
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:49 PM   #43
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Here is the irony of the saints situation. When we finally suck bad enough to get a top ten pick and need to draft a QB, the draft is full of stud linebackers. Any other year I would be chomping at the bit to draft AJ Hawk, Chad Greenway, Demeco Ryans, Thomas Howard, D'Qwell Jackson, or AJ Nicholson. Hell, what if Ernie Sims, Paul Posluszny, or Ahmad Brooks come out early. This draft could be loaded at LB. Hilarious. God has a twisted sense of humor. My perfect scenario would be for the saints to put Amac in, have him perform well, go with the best player available draft strategy, and pick up Reggie Bush. Only in my dreams (and my madden 2006 franchise).
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:00 AM   #44
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We are going to have to do exceedingly bad in the standings because, despite what the link above shows in regards to strength of schedule, every mock draft shows that the Saints will pick behind the Titians, Jets, Cardinals, 49ers, Baltimore and probably the Texans, if they all end up with identical records. So it won't be "good" enough to end up 2-14 if they are also 2-14. Can you imagine being 2-14 and getting only the seventh pick in the draft? We can't win for losing.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:15 AM   #45
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Yeah, I see you got the SOS thing figured out but of course the SOS can change depending on how many wins those teams end up with at the end of the season. Thats why I find it fruitless to waste time on guessing every day, everyweek...
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Is it based on the wins that your opponents put up in the current year or the previous year? I was under the impression it was for the previous year.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:46 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Euphoria
Yeah, I see you got the SOS thing figured out but of course the SOS can change depending on how many wins those teams end up with at the end of the season. Thats why I find it fruitless to waste time on guessing every day, everyweek...
It's also fruitless for someone who isn't interested in a particular discussion to tell others something they wanna discuss is fruitless when that person can simply avoid the discussion altogether.
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Good point, SW.
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As far as your question about SOS mjf, I think it goes by records at the end of that year. Whoever played the easier schedule yet still had a bad record picks higher. The stronger your opponents SOS, the lower you pick if tied. The SOS you showed wa sjust a determination at thebeginning of the year, nased on last year, of who had the hardest schedule this season. It has nothing to do with the draft. So if we are tied with say Tenn, And Tenn's opponents have a .550 winning percentage, and ours have a .490 winning percentage, we would pick before them due to the fact we played an easier schedule, and still had a bad record.

Determining Order of Selection
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ The team with the lowest winning percentage at the end of the previous season drafts first in the NFL Draft.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ The rest of the teams are placed in order from lowest winning percentage to the highest.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ The Super Bowl winner drafts last, even if they do not have the highest winning percentage.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ The Super Bowl loser drafts next to last.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬à ‚Â¢ If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.
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I agree with everything you just said except for this:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi
So if we are tied with say Tenn, And Tenn's opponents have a .550 winning percentage, and ours have a .490 winning percentage, we would pick before them due to the fact we played an easier schedule, and still had a bad record.
I believe it is just the opposite. The team that played the stronger schedule pick before the team that had it easier.
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