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saintswhodi 11-14-2005 09:34 AM

Food for thought
 
Gus Frerotte vs. New England: 25/47 360 yards 2Td 1 INT 83.6 rating
Peyton vs, NE: 28/37 321 yards 3 TDs 1 INT 117 rating
Kelly Holcomb vs NE: 20/33 263 yards 1 TD 1 INT 83.3 rating
Jake Plummer vs NE: 17/24 262 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs 134 rating
Matt Schaub vs NE: 18/34 298 yards 3 Tds 0 INTs 112 rating
Drew Brees vs NE: 19/24 248 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs 137 rating
Big Ben vs. NE: 12/28 216 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs 93.8 rating


Pats last 7 opponents as injuries have crippled their secondary. Let's take a guess on next week:

Aaron Brooks vs. NE: ?

papz 11-14-2005 09:42 AM

RE: Food for thought
 
I think he's going to have a good game. And for some odd feeling I have in my gut, I think we'll win. Yes I know... I'm must be smoking something.

16-25 240 2 touchdowns 1 INT :shock:

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 09:46 AM

Pass that herb papzy!!!!!!

:beatnik:

xan 11-14-2005 10:27 AM

NE has not won two consecutive games this season. This is a job for the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS!

AB's line:

24/41 326yds, 2TD's, 1 INT 5 Sacks 41yds, 2 Fumbles, 1 recovery

What kills me is that NE is very suseptable to runs up the middle, and knowing this coaching staff AB will be tossing it up rather than let Smith/Stecker pound it.

NE 34 NO 21

4saintspirit 11-14-2005 12:16 PM

22 of 45 240 yards --- 3 TDs -- 2 INTs, 1 fumble.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
I'm thinking he'll have a Jake Delhomme type game...He'll f*-up.

F-R-A-U-D.

yasoon 11-14-2005 03:16 PM

Jake (who I have attacked in ABs defense, as whodi can attest) has 15 TDs and 10 picks.
So, for those playing at home, thats more than twice the tds of AB and 2 fewer picks.

What part of that defends your logic?

LordOfEntropy 11-14-2005 03:28 PM

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saintswhodi 11-14-2005 03:30 PM

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15fumbles/16INT'S/19TD'S what would you expect the record of this team to be with that QB'S numbers?
For a first year starter? Possibly in the Superbowl. Why yes in the superbowl. Throwing three TDs and no INTs against a dynasty. Let's look at a 4 year starter since you like to live in the past, since NOTHING from the past two years remotely justifies what you are saying:

13 fumbles/16INts/21TDs. What do you expect a team's record to be when their FOUR YEAR STARTER has these numbers? LMAO!!! You lose again. Just quit doing it to yourself. We can look at Jake in his second year as a starter if you want:

29 TDs 15NTs, on a team without it's number one receiver, and two starting RBs, losing a starting offensive lineman to retirement, and two more to injury. YOU LOSE!!!!! Give it up. Nobody buys that BS explanation to explain your lies, nobody is buying this crap you are spitting now. F-R-A-U-D.

papz 11-14-2005 03:32 PM

I agree with your diagnosis Dr. LoE. That explains everything.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by papz
I agree with your diagnosis Dr. LoE. That explains everything.

How about pathological liar? Can you add that disorder Dr. LOE? Don't people with this disorder usually make an attempt to explain away their lies, like making a thread called my explanation for blatantly lying to back up a false point? :wink:

yasoon 11-14-2005 03:36 PM

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I don't rememeber posting anything about what Aaron Brooks numbers are. That was never in my discussion...
Hmmmm.....I'm not sure if you read the post that started this thread. It was relative to ABs forthcoming outing against the Pats.

You said:

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I'm thinking he'll have a Jake Delhomme type game...He'll f*-up.
Which in turn leads people to explore which of the 2 guys are playing better because you chose to attack Jake as part of an AB discussion. I posted the numbers. They speak for themselves.

I said a long time ago that people should get over the fact that Jake is gone. What's done is done, right or wrong.

In this case, you slammed Jake outside of the context of the discussion. (Nobody mentioned Jake....he will probably have nothing to do with ABs game this week.) I retorted with what I like to call a series of facts. They don't support a forthcoming Jake-like performance as being worse than a forthcoming AB-like performance.

If you polled coaches and GMs around the league as to which QB they want on their team, I think you would find Jake would get at least 90% of the responses. You using him to either deflect criticism or support AB, is futile and pathetic.

Jake is in a better situation. I'll give him that..... But, that doesn't mean AB would not lose games for the Cats if given the chance. Such hypothetical crap is a waste of time. Every situation is different. But AB has regressed to a turd who is the mascot for Saints underachievement in the new millenium.

I'm not a basher. Last night someone said we beat the Rams in the playoffs cuz Hakim dropped the ball. That's not correct. AB played well and got us a lead, the defense gave it up and we got a break late. I give AB credit when he deserves it. I'm not a one trick pony like some folks. The problem is that AB doesn't deserve credit for much of anything this year. He's not getting better, he's regressing. Face the facts big daddy.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
Quote:

For a first year starter? Possibly in the Superbowl. Why yes in the superbowl. Throwing three TDs and no INTs against a dynasty. Let's look at a 4 year starter since you like to live in the past, since NOTHING from the past two years remotely justifies what you are saying:

13 fumbles/16INts/21TDs. What do you expect a team's record to be when their FOUR YEAR STARTER has these numbers? LMAO!!! You lose again. Just quit doing it to yourself. We can look at Jake in his second year as a starter if you want:

29 TDs 15NTs, on a team without it's number one receiver, and two starting RBs, losing a starting offensive lineman to retirement, and two more to injury. YOU LOSE!!!!! Give it up. Nobody buys that BS explanation to explain your lies, nobody is buying this crap you are spitting now. F-R-A-U-D.

My post wasn't meant for you, it was meant for the sane. You Sir don't speak for anyone other than yourself, so don't respond to my posts as nobody buys that b.s. (you are the only nobody).

My posts don't reflect any mention of Brooks's numbers are what he's done...First year starter, or not doesn't account for where that team ended up with the porous play by their QB. And since 2003 he's gotten no better.

Oh, I see. F-R-A-U-D.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
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But AB has regressed to a turd who is the mascot for Saints underachievement in the new millenium.

And Jake has regressed as well...

Yet another lie. His passer rating has gone up for 3 straight years, while Brooks' has gone down. Noone takes you seriously cause you lie to make false points. Tell the truth for once, and half the board wouldn't be riding your ignorant statements.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:30 PM

Once again, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Carolina is 24th in the league in rushing, we are 13th. They only attempt three more rushes per game than us. How can you look at Jake Delhomme and say he has gotten WORSE, and look at Aaron Brooks and not see he has gone from bad to terrible? So we rush the ball WAY better than they do, and Aaron Brooks still has a bottom feeder of a passer rating, while Jake is near the top. Stop embarrassing yourself. And what does passing for less than 200 yards have to do with anything? I bet Kyle Orton passes for under two hundred yards every week, and the Bears still win. So what? that's no point at all. The mighty Aaron Brooks has passed for under 200 yards 6 times this season. SIX OUTOF NINE GAMES!! Delhomme has only done it twice. On 40 less attempts he has more yards and TDs than Aaron Brooks. Just go away.

And the reason you ran from that other thread to make that dumb arse "my explanation" thread is cause half the board was slamming that BS. Get real.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:39 PM

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and he regularly has under 200 yard games which may account for his stellar rating because his team won't let him throw the ball.
What's your point again? you said this, and now can;t back it up. What is regularly, 2 out of nine games? I think for soem reasonwhen you watch the Saints play, you see Delhomme instead of Brooks. You want embarrassing?

27/45 1 TD 3 INTs and a fumble
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20050919_NYG@NO

12/32 199 yards 1 TD 2 INTs
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20050925_NO@MIN

Quit embarrassing yourself. That's just week two and three.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:40 PM

Two out of 9 games under 200 yards, as opposed to 6 out of 9 games under 200 yards. I killed you with your own BS stat. You are too funny.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
Slightly over embarassment. 11/18 for 216 yards and a TD.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051106_CAR@TB

Wait, that's over 200 yards. What you said was:

Quote:

and he regularly has under 200 yard games which may account for his stellar rating because his team won't let him throw the ball.
As normal, you can't back it up. Dude, you are sorry.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:44 PM

Wait, that is NOT UNDER 200 YARDS, like you said happened REGULARLY. Do you realize the more you post stats over 200 yards, the dumber you look? Nope, I don't think you realize, whichmakes it even funnier. By all means, continue. LMAO!!!

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:46 PM

Wait, so I am about to kill this stupidity once and for all: If those stats are embarrassing for Jake, and he has twice as many TDs and LESS INTs than AB, who is really getting embarrassed by you posting that? You're done.

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 04:48 PM

Wait, you said:

Quote:

and he regularly has under 200 yard games which may account for his stellar rating because his team won't let him throw the ball.
So you can't back that up, and you try another tact. Okay. If his team refuses to let him throw much, why does he have more yards and TD s than AB on a team that is 11 spots worse rushing the ball? Care to explain? LMAO!!!

saintswhodi 11-14-2005 06:23 PM

The Panthers DEFENSE allows Jake to throw more TDs and less INTs on less attempts? With more yards? Their defense???????? Are you really this dumb?

jrmllb 11-14-2005 06:36 PM

I think we could win, depends on what team shows up and which officals work the game, the SAINTS have gotten some messed up calls this year.

Do you think A-Train gets some attempts this week in NE?

papz 11-14-2005 06:43 PM

I hope he doesn't because I think Smith has been doing a great job back there minus the fumbles. If we make sure he gets 25 touches and Stecker around 15, I think we have a good chance at winning.

DARKFATHER504 11-15-2005 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xan
NE has not won two consecutive games this season. This is a job for the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS!

AB's line:

24/41 326yds, 2TD's, 1 INT 5 Sacks 41yds, 2 Fumbles, 1 recovery

What kills me is that NE is very suseptable to runs up the middle, and knowing this coaching staff AB will be tossing it up rather than let Smith/Stecker pound it.

NE 34 NO 21

The way A.Smith runs the ball we should have beaten daBears, but the coaching staff like to get away from things that actually work

CHACHING 11-15-2005 07:34 AM

Saints 27
Pats 17..
(If Brooks doesn't give the game away)

BoudinSandwich 11-16-2005 06:55 PM

Can the Saints' offense really score 27 points in one game?

LordOfEntropy 11-17-2005 11:53 AM

27 points? - not this years Saints. The only way I could see NE losing this one is if they somehow managed to come in overconfident and ill-prepared, -and- the refs hand the game away. But with NE struggling, I seriously doubt they'll come in overconfident or ill-prepared.


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