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mjf150 11-15-2005 03:11 PM

San Antonio Mayor Shooting-Off at the Mouth - Again
We need to show up in droves for the Tampa game in BR to shut this guy up.

Hardberger: Baton Rouge Can't Support Saints

Tue Nov 8,10:41 AM ET

San Antonio Mayor Phil Hardberger on Monday called on NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to schedule the New Orleans Saints 2006 home games in San Antonio following poor attendance in Baton Rouge La., for the latest game.

"We put 65,000 fans in (San Antonio's) last game, (Baton Rouge) put 32,000 fans in theirs," Hardberger said. "What else do I need to say?"

Hardberger said he will enter into serious discussions with Saints owner Tom Benson after the 2005 season, hoping to bring the displaced franchise to San Antonio permanently.

But regardless of the team's long-term plans, Hardberger said San Antonio should host the Saints' six home games next season.

"I don't want the commissioner to pick and choose and give us the smaller games, and put the big games somewhere else," Hardberger said. "If you want to do business with San Antonio, you have to treat us like first-class citizens. We're not second class."

newshound 11-15-2005 03:21 PM

RE: San Antonio Mayor Shooting-Off at the Mouth - Again
I think somebody 's gonna, or should, kill this guy.

He and Benson are made for each other, complete and total public relations nighmares. How come the National press is not getting a hold of this and squashing him I don't know.

:pokechop: :biggun: :cursing:

mjf150 11-15-2005 03:29 PM

Re: San Antonio Mayor Shooting-Off at the Mouth - Again
"But regardless of the team's long-term plans, Hardberger said San Antonio should host the Saints' six home games next season."

For a guy who wants to relocate a NFL team to his city, you would think he would know how many home games there are in a season.

TheDeuce 11-15-2005 03:38 PM

RE: Re: San Antonio Mayor Shooting-Off at the Mouth - Again
What an idiot, this guy just painted a huge bullseye on his chest. The national media has given Benson a lot of crap for talking with other cities, but I think the national media needs to rip this guy apart. Obviously trying to take advantage.

saintswhodi 11-15-2005 04:03 PM

Sorry Halo but I have to say it. This idiot is an *******!!! Shet the hell up you nit-wit. What a douche.

Halo 11-15-2005 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Sorry Halo but I have to say it. This idiot is an *******!!! Shet the hell up you nit-wit. What a douche.

Apology accepted. Sometimes we stretch the rules for a good purpose. I think you just said what was on a lot of people's minds. :)

CheramieIII 11-15-2005 08:07 PM

If I were living in San Antonio I would think twice about re-electing this f**k Stick. He has obviously not listened to what Tags has been saying. Everyone wants the Saints to play all games in Louisiana next year and that stupid idiot doesn't even have the money to fork over to Benson on a yearly basis. Do you think for one second that the state legislature is going to allow those discretionary funds to be spent on attracting another football team. I think not and that would be way to close for Jerry Jones and the Boys.

We need to stop talking about this dude, he smoked way to much of the real good shiiiiittttt when he was growing up. He obviously could afford the real good stuff and must be a spoiled rich kid and used to getting his way or a crack dealer from the eastside disguised as the mayor.

saintswhodi 11-15-2005 08:21 PM

I have not voted in any TX elections since I lived here. But if this crackhead is on the ballot, I will be voting for the first time, against him.

CheramieIII 11-15-2005 08:38 PM

You the man Whodi, you the man!!!!!!!

xan 11-15-2005 09:04 PM

Benson needs some leverage. Los Angeles is all but closed off to him, so without a viable alternative, he's got to have some San Antonio Schmuck (I'm going to trademark the name just in case Benson does move the Saints there) saying stuff like this.

CheramieIII 11-15-2005 09:22 PM

Hey X, I believe both options maybe closed to Benson now. He will want to give the appearance when he sells the team to a group of Louisiana investors that he has the upper hand so he can get more money. What a concept and like the guy needs more money. Don't you think for once that someone in this world with money would do the right thing. It always seems it is the people without the money doing the right thing and the people with money doing what they want, which is usually shiiiittttiiiinnnngggg on the people without money.

All you people with money take notice. One day a revolt across the USA will occurr and all us have nots are going to take all your stuff and you are going to be our ******* for a change. You will cry and we will treat you just like you treated us, with a whip you jackass.

It will happen, remember how this country was founded and it's about time for a changeover again, don't ya think!!!!!!!

saintswhodi 11-15-2005 09:46 PM

Hello Mr. Random. One minute we are talking about Hardberger's dumb ass, the next we are talking about a slave revolt and following Malcolm X in taking up arms. What happened Cher? You just re-watch Mississippi Burning or something? :wink:

CheramieIII 11-15-2005 10:22 PM

Man I must be good, because I am white as a sheet in the spring wind, but if I got your attention I guess everyone else looked at it too and now the word is out. I really like Mississippi Buring too.

xan 11-16-2005 07:13 AM

I'm not so sure that Benson's thought all this out properly. There's no way that the State can or will subsidize any more than it is nor will it for Benson. He's got the best public finance deal in the history of sport and he's treating those who's footing the bill like its his god given right to more money. My bet is that without the subsidy of the State, his franchise isn't worth much more than $400M (from $760M). If that goes away, he'll have to replace those moneys. There is a trend in state governments not to put these moneys into owners' hands (the NY Giants' deal comes to mind) and it is highly unlikely that the Texas moneys for economic development will be allocated for that purpose without a statewide referendum.

He's negotiating himself into a box unless he's got some deus ex machina that will transform his situation. If I were Bradshaw, I would negotiate without pressing for a close, and wait to see how Benson handles the January discussions with the State. He'll have to declare his intentions, and if it is to seek more money or move, then I'd withdraw, publicly implying that without the State deal, the franchise is worth less (and name the number) Benson would be forced to seek at least as good a deal as what is on the table from his next dummy, I mean city. There's not a chance in hell he'll get it. So, Bradshaw comes back to the table and bails him out.

Uh, Cher, while I am frequently called a "liberal democrat" for my socially progressive views, (and I am very sympathetic to the underclass), there's a reason that they're the underclass....they generally want change but don't know how to manage it once in charge (which is why they're the underclass in the first place). This country was founded by extraordinarily rich guys who didn't want to share and manifested their revolt by convincing the rednecks (with whom they didn't want to share, either) that it was noble and imperative that they die for their (not yet formed) country (little realizing that the founding fathers were simply weeding out the underclass). Your call for arms may turn into another Waco, unless you've got a really rich dude (preferably several) who want to foment some good change. Not that I'm against it, but with 130,000 welfare squatters itching to return to New Orleans, you're probably not going to find many of those willing to die for the Saints, nor will they be able to organize unless there's some serious looting to be had. Now, if you can get those 130,000 strong to slide over to San Antonio, I'll join your uprising. Make San Antonio the new 9th Ward. That would be a revolution worth funding.

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