Carney....

TheGambler · 11-23-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Like I posted before, I seem to remember that within minutes before he missed that kick, we got a score from another game that eliminated us from playoff contention. I may be mistaken about that, and it may have been later on in the day when that happened.

You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands.

But anyway, back to your original statement.....yes we had some sliver of a chance heading into the Jacksonville game that relied on a couple of scenerios happening......and if I'm remembering right, one of them involved Arizona beating Seattle that day (Seattle had to lose the remainder of their games for us to get in). Seattle wound up beating Arizona with no problem. I will double check to make sure.

Keep in mind, though, the reason most people can't "let it go" has nothing to do with us losing out on our microscopic playoff hopes.............it had more to do with the fact that the Saints pulled off probably the greatest play in NFL history, and then a freakin extra point of all things kept us from sealing the deal. It's tough to accept, but we also have to remember that the extra point would have only tied the game...........we could have still lost in overtime, although I figure Jacksonville's heart was pretty much ripped out after that play.

Euphoria · 11-23-2005, 10:06 AM

YOu have to be in it to win it. At least you go into overtime you still have a fighting chance to win and a simple extra point after a play like that to get you a chance to win the game...

TheGambler · 11-23-2005, 10:11 AM

Just went back and confirmed: Yes, Seattle beat Arizona 28-10 that day, which knocked us out regardless of the Jacksonville outcome. However, the Tampa Bay game happened TWO WEEKS before the jacksonville game, not the week prior. The week prior was our romp over the Giants on ESPN.

xan · 11-23-2005, 10:17 AM

Language, gentlemen, please.

TheGambler · 11-23-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Language, gentlemen, please.

Are you drunk? I don't see any foul language in any of thse posts in this thread.

xan · 11-23-2005, 12:36 PM

I am not picking on TheGambler, but..:

quote:

You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands.

We've gotten a little loose lately.

TheGambler · 11-24-2005, 12:07 AM

Wow, I had no clue I'd even typed that. That's why I thought you were crazy at first, because I read through every post (except mine) and coudln't see any curse words. Guess I should have looked in my own.

Sorry for the comment asking if you were drunk.

Saint_LB · 11-24-2005, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Like I posted before, I seem to remember that within minutes before he missed that kick, we got a score from another game that eliminated us from playoff contention. I may be mistaken about that, and it may have been later on in the day when that happened.

You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands.

But anyway, back to your original statement.....yes we had some sliver of a chance heading into the Jacksonville game that relied on a couple of scenerios happening......and if I'm remembering right, one of them involved Arizona beating Seattle that day (Seattle had to lose the remainder of their games for us to get in). Seattle wound up beating Arizona with no problem. I will double check to make sure.

Keep in mind, though, the reason most people can't "let it go" has nothing to do with us losing out on our microscopic playoff hopes.............it had more to do with the fact that the Saints pulled off probably the greatest play in NFL history, and then a freakin extra point of all things kept us from sealing the deal. It's tough to accept, but we also have to remember that the extra point would have only tied the game...........we could have still lost in overtime, although I figure Jacksonville's heart was pretty much ripped out after that play.

I wonder if the Saints would have won that day, if it affected Jacksonville having a shot at the playoff. I can't even remember if they were a good team or a bad team that year...lol.
Anyway, the reason I'm wondering is because if I already knew that the playoffs were out of the question, then I'm sure they did, and letting the game go into overtime, at that point, could have only hurt them for a coupole of reasons. First, somebody could get a career-ending injury playing for nothing, or, we end up winning another game, thusly throwing us a little lower in the pecking order come draft day. You think they told him to shank it?

11-23-2005, 09:58 AM	#11
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Like I posted before, I seem to remember that within minutes before he missed that kick, we got a score from another game that eliminated us from playoff contention. I may be mistaken about that, and it may have been later on in the day when that happened. You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands. But anyway, back to your original statement.....yes we had some sliver of a chance heading into the Jacksonville game that relied on a couple of scenerios happening......and if I'm remembering right, one of them involved Arizona beating Seattle that day (Seattle had to lose the remainder of their games for us to get in). Seattle wound up beating Arizona with no problem. I will double check to make sure. Keep in mind, though, the reason most people can't "let it go" has nothing to do with us losing out on our microscopic playoff hopes.............it had more to do with the fact that the Saints pulled off probably the greatest play in NFL history, and then a freakin extra point of all things kept us from sealing the deal. It's tough to accept, but we also have to remember that the extra point would have only tied the game...........we could have still lost in overtime, although I figure Jacksonville's heart was pretty much ripped out after that play.
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11-23-2005, 10:11 AM	#13
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Just went back and confirmed: Yes, Seattle beat Arizona 28-10 that day, which knocked us out regardless of the Jacksonville outcome. However, the Tampa Bay game happened TWO WEEKS before the jacksonville game, not the week prior. The week prior was our romp over the Giants on ESPN.
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11-23-2005, 10:43 AM	#15
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by xan Language, gentlemen, please. Are you drunk? I don't see any foul language in any of thse posts in this thread.
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11-23-2005, 12:36 PM	#16
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,355 Blog Entries: 34	I am not picking on TheGambler, but..: quote: You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ****ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands. We've gotten a little loose lately.

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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Wow, I had no clue I'd even typed that. That's why I thought you were crazy at first, because I read through every post (except mine) and coudln't see any curse words. Guess I should have looked in my own. Sorry for the comment asking if you were drunk.
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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by TheGambler Originally Posted by Saint_LB Like I posted before, I seem to remember that within minutes before he missed that kick, we got a score from another game that eliminated us from playoff contention. I may be mistaken about that, and it may have been later on in the day when that happened. You're right. In all actuality, we were eliminated from playoff contention the prior week in that 14-7 (i think?) loss to Tampa Bay. I've defended Brooks, but I can honestly say that he and only he cost us that Tampa Bay game. Every time we'd get down in scoring position, he'd ***ing mishandle the snap or the ball would drop from his hands. But anyway, back to your original statement.....yes we had some sliver of a chance heading into the Jacksonville game that relied on a couple of scenerios happening......and if I'm remembering right, one of them involved Arizona beating Seattle that day (Seattle had to lose the remainder of their games for us to get in). Seattle wound up beating Arizona with no problem. I will double check to make sure. Keep in mind, though, the reason most people can't "let it go" has nothing to do with us losing out on our microscopic playoff hopes.............it had more to do with the fact that the Saints pulled off probably the greatest play in NFL history, and then a freakin extra point of all things kept us from sealing the deal. It's tough to accept, but we also have to remember that the extra point would have only tied the game...........we could have still lost in overtime, although I figure Jacksonville's heart was pretty much ripped out after that play. I wonder if the Saints would have won that day, if it affected Jacksonville having a shot at the playoff. I can't even remember if they were a good team or a bad team that year...lol. Anyway, the reason I'm wondering is because if I already knew that the playoffs were out of the question, then I'm sure they did, and letting the game go into overtime, at that point, could have only hurt* them for a coupole of reasons. First, somebody could get a career-ending injury playing for nothing, or, we end up winning another game, thusly throwing us a little lower in the pecking order come draft day. You think they told him to shank it?
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