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papz 11-25-2005 12:25 PM

RE: Do we consider
 
Nah... they have a better record than us. Detriot also likes to spend big money on quality free agents while we seem to stick with the same players year after year. This indicates to me that they are trying to get better while we are hoping to get better. It all starts up top. If Benson wasn't so cheap and willing to invest into his organization, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be in this situation every year.

As for both teams quarterback situation, I believe Harrington and Brooks rank last in the NFL in passer rating. As of right now, they both stink although I'd rather have Brooks starting for my team than Harrington.

lynwood 11-25-2005 12:38 PM

RE: Do we consider
 
Tell you what, lets just change QB's and see first hand. I'm watching rookies outperform brooks.

CheramieIII 11-25-2005 12:47 PM

RE: Do we consider
 
Why don't we keep Brooks he would'nt be a back 2nd, he can always play well without pressure. Just kidding. He stinks, AMAC will make a very good 2nd and Bouman needs to help Brooks pack so they can both drive out of town together.

BOB, when Brooks is traded to another team or picked up by another team after being cut, will you become a fan of that team and stop posting this crap? You are the only person on this site that actually still thinks Brooks is the man.

When are you going to learn that you are wrong about Brooks? How old are you dude?
:computer2:

lynwood 11-25-2005 03:03 PM

RE: Do we consider
 
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Euphoria 11-25-2005 04:57 PM

RE: Do we consider
 
I ask, where is our talent???

Tobias-Reiper 11-25-2005 06:50 PM

... wher does it end???

.. here's some logic for you... which probably is just going to go over...

.. you have a team with a good defense, and good WR's, and a good RB, a decent o-line, and a decent coaching staff...

..if all of those are decent, where's the problem? Special teams? :) Ahhh!!!! the QB...

... and get ready for this because this may just be too far fetched for your understanding...

Have you consider that Jeff Garcia isn't really any better than Joey Harrington???

.. I didn't think so...

... this is Garcia's 3rd team... he wasn't that good in SF, sucked big time in Cleveland.. he just may be doing more of the same in Detroit...

Tobias-Reiper 11-26-2005 12:00 AM

Re: RE: Do we consider
 
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
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..if all of those are decent, where's the problem? Special teams? Ahhh!!!! the QB...

Who is saying that these parts are decent? you???!

From yesterday's ESPN Alert Marricuci was to be fired today, or at least very soon. They have a above average defense, good OL and a lot of name players at the skill positions. But if you don't have the right leadership in charge of the team they will underachieve.

A well coach team, will beat a more talented team more-so than not. New England has been proving that the past 4 years now...Are haven't you noticed???! why don't you stop spouting off at the nuttz and actually pay attention you probably would learn something from me.

... you are amusing, no doubt...
.. you ask me "who's saying those parts are decent, you???", as if my opinion is not valid just because it is my opinion, then you follow up by " They have a above average defense, good OL and a lot of name players at the skill positions."... wow... again, I'd strongly advise you to read what you type before you hit the submit button... nothing kills and argument faster than making no sense.

...coaches can draw many many plays (well, except if you are a Saints coach).. it falls on the players to execute too, you know??? so now the question of leadership comes up... do you really want to go that route, being that the QB is suppossed to be the leader of the football team??

... I'd advise you to stop now trying so desperately to draw comparisons to other teams in a vain attempt to prove.. well, I have no idea anymore what you are thrying to prove.. you are only wasting your time, and in the end you prove everyone right and yourself wrong, even if you don't want to accept it. Granted, it does amuse the rest of the forum, but I think that, at one point, you have to come to the realization that you are just not making any sense...

saintswhodi 11-26-2005 08:50 AM

I thought Halo put an end to this nonsense. :roll:

Euphoria 11-26-2005 09:57 AM

ON PAPER we SUCK... this on paper crap is just that crap. If you have talent they you would see it. Ya don't see talent out there you see average players playing a average game throw in a few mistakes from anywheres an you have a big fat L. Talent ha hum bug. Deuce is done, he has no speed and injury prone. Not one of these guys is pro-bowl material NOT ONE... J Brown still waiting to see he has shown promise but everyoone else please keep fooling yourselves.

spkb25 11-26-2005 12:20 PM

we stink and you are right for the most part euph. if you have talent you win. we stink and so does our coach. we need to clean house

yasoon 11-26-2005 02:14 PM

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Except Detroit has a better defense, they can actually stop the run with no problem.

Hmmmmm....so, you watched the game and said that detroit could stop the run?

Falcons vs. Detriot 45 rushes 256 yards 5.7 avg.

Falcons vs. Saints 33 rushes 160 yards 4.8 avg


That's apples to apples. You lose.

The Falcons ran all over Detroit. 256 yards is stopping the run with no problem? I'll pull a you and challenge you to show me the analyst who said that was good.

I think you must be starved for attention or something. Maybe you should go talk football with a 6th grade dodgeball player. I'm sure you could go point counterpoint quite well.

I honestly can't imagine what your retort will be. :popcorn:

Tobias-Reiper 11-26-2005 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
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... I'd advise you to stop now trying so desperately to draw comparisons to other teams in a vain attempt to prove.. well, I have no idea anymore what you are thrying to prove.. you are only wasting your time, and in the end you prove everyone right and yourself wrong, even if you don't want to accept it. Granted, it does amuse the rest of the forum, but I think that, at one point, you have to come to the realization that you are just not making any sense...

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If i'm soo wrong, why do constantly argue with me?? Let me tell you why, because deep down you know i'm right. Everything I say makes total sense to you, if it didn't you'd ignore me...And it's very obvious by the 2 posters above me, they agree.

because you are amusing...

..example: you just keep quoting a sentence of my posts, but conveniently ignore the "meat" of the argument.. case and point the above...

..this is what YOU posted previously on this very same thread:.

Quote:

Who is saying that these parts are decent? you???!

From yesterday's ESPN Alert Marricuci was to be fired today, or at least very soon. They have a above average defense, good OL and a lot of name players at the skill positions. But if you don't have the right leadership in charge of the team they will underachieve.
.. and you obviously didn't want to quote this part of MY response:

Quote:

.. you ask me "who's saying those parts are decent, you???", as if my opinion is not valid just because it is my opinion, then you follow up by " They have a above average defense, good OL and a lot of name players at the skill positions."... wow... again, I'd strongly advise you to read what you type before you hit the submit button... nothing kills and argument faster than making no sense. [

My guess is that you think that, if you just quote part of the post and continuously state that you are right, no one is going to bother going back and reading the previous posts to form an opinion...

.. you obviously cannot see the fallacies in your own arguments, and that is very amusing to me.. morbid, sure; yet amusing nonetheless...

I mean, just this sentence:

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If i'm soo wrong, why do constantly argue with me??
What's wrong with that sentence???

Do you argue with people who agree with you?? :)

See what I am saying?? :)

yasoon 11-26-2005 04:53 PM

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They have a game are too with giving up big running games
Hablo Ingles?

Not apples to apples? How is us versus a team and them versus the same team not a direct comparison?

You said you watched the freaking game on Thursday and then commented on how the Lions could stop the run. They gave up 250+ yards to the Falcons and you decided to give them props for their run D, which is typical. Since you are always down on our D, I provided the (relevant) stats of the head to head match ups for both teams. Seriously, what is your argument? You're the one who brought up the damn Falcons game and they got absolutely run over.

You might be the worst football analyst I have ever come into contact with. I'm trying not to call names here because I don't want to piss off the mods and we are all Saints fans here, but you really can't be serious 90% of the time. Your reasoning is astounding, and I'm trying to avoid English corrections since you threatened to mess up someone's airplane the last time that happened.

Take a few days off. Step back. There are alot of folks torching you and you think you're winning these arguments. I come here to talk (intelligently) about my favorite team with other Saints fans and every time I come on here, you are having these bizarre arguments based on nothing.

yasoon 11-26-2005 04:57 PM

Also, looking at your link....we both suck against the run. So your link is stupid as well.

We're 29th...they're 26th. Wow....you're right. They're AWESOME against the run. Clearly, their run D puts them way ahead of the saints.......somebody block this dude's IP address, so I'll stop getting roped into these moronic debates. :annoy:


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