TheDeuce |
11-27-2005 05:58 PM |
Quote:
Deuce,
you are just throwing a whole lot of averages out there...
OK, if you like averages, check this out:
Average points per game scored by the 2005 Saints offense: 16
Average points allowed by the 2000 Ravens defense: 16.5
See?? EVEN IF THE SAINTS DEFENSE WERE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE 2005 RAVENS, STATISTICALLY THEY"D STILL LOSE!!!
... if you go and read the post I made about the defense playing well, you'd see an explanation of actual events on the football field, not just averages.
I'm not going to repeat all of that post here, but, in answering this post of yours, I'll point of that:
The defense is NOT allowing 26.6 points per game. You cannot count points scored by opposing defenses or opposing special teams against the defense.
You say that the 14 take-aways the defense has created are bad.. ok..but how about the offense turning the ball twice as much? The Saints offense has 28 turnovers, which is the worst in the NFL. Not the NFC, the NFL.
Now, let's stay with turnovers for a while...
you say that a good defense finds a way to keep points off the board when the offense turns the ball over.. and that is true to a point.
How many football games have you seen where a team turns the ball over 4, 5, 6 times and they go out and win the game? I'm sure that you'll find a couple here and there, but unless you got the 1985 Bears or the 2000 Ravens defense, your offense turns the ball over 3 times in a game, chances are you lose that game... ESPECIALLY if you turn the ball over in your side of the field.
Now, how about points off turnovers by the Saints offense? How many points off those 14 turnovers has the Saints offense turn into points? Just in the Chicago game, the defense created 3 turnovers, yet the offense could not score a single point off any of them. NOt even a measly field goal.
Now, I don't know if you count field goals as points scored by the offense, but even if you do, here's the average of points scored by the Saints offense: 15.9. OK, let's call it 16. And that is by just adding the totals from all games and dividing them by the number of games played.
One more thing: let me ask you: what happens when you fail to convert on 3rd down?
3 possible outcomes: you go for it on 4th, you attempt a field goal, or you punt. Do you think you aer going to win many games if you don't convert ZERO 3rd downs? How about 2? Or 3??
|
I'm just throwing averages out there? No, I gave you some good stats, but you obviously just ignored the ones that make my point. Our run defense is awful, they give up over 100 yards to pretty much any back, including three or four 2nd and 3rd stringers. That being said, teams don't have to throw it on us because they can run it instead and be more effective. The whole point of my post, if you actually read the whole thing, is that while yes our offense is really really bad this year, it would be absolutely retarded to just forget about improving our defense just because a few stats have improved. That's what I was saying, not that our defense is totally to blame and that our offense isn't.
So remember, our team might have improved stats in passing defense and total defense, but that's just because of our porous run defense. Also, I still stand by my statement that they don't make big plays when they need to. You wanna argue that one too? If you do, go look at the Atlanta game, or the Miami game, or the St. Louis game, or pretty much every game we've lost; then drink a nice frosty glass of shut the hell up because you'll realize this defense doesn't make big plays when the game is on the line.
Another thing, the 26.6 points/game was my mistake, the stat page I was looking at was titled "Team Defensive Leaders" so I figured it was just points given up by defenses. So good eye, my bad.
|