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dberce1 12-07-2005 08:05 PM

Interesting Snippets
 
From SI.com, I'll post both, as they are just paragraphs:

Highly placed Jets sources say they'd prefer not to draft Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart because it would mean investing too much money in one player when they have many holes to fill. Those sources, too, are not crazy about Leinart because he doesn't possess a strong arm and will command about $24 million.
-- New York Post

Which veteran QB might be playing for the Jets next season? The Chargers might get rid of Philip Rivers, but the Jets are not high on him. Though Washington's Patrick Ramsey, New Orleans' Aaron Brooks or Tampa Bay's Chris Simms might be available, the Jets might be looking at the answer Sunday at Giants Stadium in Oakland's Kerry Collins.
-- New York Post

FrenzyFan 12-08-2005 06:41 AM

Hadn't seen these yet, thanks. It's a sobering fact that we've likely shot ourselves in the foot (again) by not trading Brooks in the last off-season. I notice that the article mentions that Brooks "might be available" not that the Jets were interested.

Prior to this season, I truly believe some NFL personnel staffs might have been unfamiliar enough with AB's rookie-like mistakes, bad decisions, poor mechanics, and chronic inaccuracy during game play to possibly trade us a 3rd or 4th for him. I no longer have that hope. This year has really shown off Brooks problems. I suspect we'll be lucky to get a pick in any round for him. The real scary thing might be that we cannot find anyone who wants him at all. Seems pretty obvious to me that he's not starter material, but could make a decent backup for fill-in work. With his price-tag, I just don't see any team paying that much for a backup.

CheramieIII 12-08-2005 06:46 PM

Hey Frenzy, I agree with you as most probably do at this point, should've traded the sucker last year. If we were to pair him in a trade along with Deuce we might be able to come up with a high first rounder and I say trade Deuce because we seem to run alot better without him and I think the injury bug is just going to continue. Let's not make the same mistake with Deuce that we made with AB and wait a year later to realize we should have made the trade.

spkb25 12-08-2005 09:10 PM

if we can trade brooks that would be wonderful. if we can get bush lets do it. i don't think we can. but if he is there there is no reason we shouldn't

Tobias-Reiper 12-08-2005 09:12 PM

.. I don't know why I see Gino Torrettta when I see Matt Leinart.. maybe is the weak arm, lack of mobility, the superhuman team around him... I don't know ...

spkb25 12-08-2005 09:21 PM

i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you

CheramieIII 12-08-2005 09:33 PM

We need to sell out the entire draft to get Bush and Leinhart. I think our D is coming around. We just need to keep everyone in place. Consistency wins, period!!!!

Tobias-Reiper 12-08-2005 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25
i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you

You see it too.. yeah... heck, even his "best" play (arguably), the QB sneak against ND, he was pushed into the endzone by Bush, because he got stuffed.. if Reggie doesn't push him in, they lose that game...

saintswhodi 12-09-2005 02:48 PM

I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Tobias-Reiper 12-09-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Whodi, my man!!! All those Brooks arguments did affect your brains :)

Leinart no way is better than Palmer. No sir!!!

... when I see Leinart, I see a weak arm with lots of time to throw.. in Carson circa USC, you could see the arm, the poise, and the athleticism... I don't see any of that in Leinart.

Honestly, I would rather have Matt Jones playing QB, before Leinart....

..but you know what they say about opinions... mine's right and your's wrong :)

:broccoli:

saintswhodi 12-09-2005 07:02 PM

Nice. lol You know I am usually directly in your corner TR, but we are on opposite ends of the world here. Leinart is better than Palmer, believe that. And athletically, they are pretty much the same, which is minimally for both of them. Palmer has a stronger arm, no doubt at all. I won't even argue that. But Leinart's decisions make, ability to read defenses, etc. are well above average. And how "athletic" does he need to be? As athletic as Peyton Manning? I'd take that. Sorry bro, but this is DEFINITELY a wait and see deal here. Got my told you so all queue'd up. :P

JCarney 12-09-2005 07:49 PM

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Nice. lol You know I am usually directly in your corner TR, but we are on opposite ends of the world here. Leinart is better than Palmer, believe that. And athletically, they are pretty much the same, which is minimally for both of them. Palmer has a stronger arm, no doubt at all. I won't even argue that. But Leinart's decisions make, ability to read defenses, etc. are well above average. And how "athletic" does he need to be? As athletic as Peyton Manning? I'd take that. Sorry bro, but this is DEFINITELY a wait and see deal here. Got my told you so all queue'd up.

I say screw the QB, Trade Brooks. Draft USC'S holder with our number 1 pick, and just let me kick FG'S with every down. I'M UNSTOPPABLE BABY!!!!!

Tobias-Reiper 12-09-2005 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JCarney
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Nice. lol You know I am usually directly in your corner TR, but we are on opposite ends of the world here. Leinart is better than Palmer, believe that. And athletically, they are pretty much the same, which is minimally for both of them. Palmer has a stronger arm, no doubt at all. I won't even argue that. But Leinart's decisions make, ability to read defenses, etc. are well above average. And how "athletic" does he need to be? As athletic as Peyton Manning? I'd take that. Sorry bro, but this is DEFINITELY a wait and see deal here. Got my told you so all queue'd up.

I say screw the QB, Trade Brooks. Draft USC'S holder with our number 1 pick, and just let me kick FG'S with every down. I'M UNSTOPPABLE BABY!!!!!


...welcome back, Billy!!!! We missed ya!!

Tobias-Reiper 12-09-2005 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Nice. lol You know I am usually directly in your corner TR, but we are on opposite ends of the world here. Leinart is better than Palmer, believe that. And athletically, they are pretty much the same, which is minimally for both of them. Palmer has a stronger arm, no doubt at all. I won't even argue that. But Leinart's decisions make, ability to read defenses, etc. are well above average. And how "athletic" does he need to be? As athletic as Peyton Manning? I'd take that. Sorry bro, but this is DEFINITELY a wait and see deal here. Got my told you so all queue'd up. :P

.. hey, remember that not long ago we got into it with the Will Smith-Al Wallace who played better in 2004 thingy... :)

saintswhodi 12-10-2005 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Nice. lol You know I am usually directly in your corner TR, but we are on opposite ends of the world here. Leinart is better than Palmer, believe that. And athletically, they are pretty much the same, which is minimally for both of them. Palmer has a stronger arm, no doubt at all. I won't even argue that. But Leinart's decisions make, ability to read defenses, etc. are well above average. And how "athletic" does he need to be? As athletic as Peyton Manning? I'd take that. Sorry bro, but this is DEFINITELY a wait and see deal here. Got my told you so all queue'd up. :P

.. hey, remember that not long ago we got into it with the Will Smith-Al Wallace who played better in 2004 thingy... :)

Um, yeah. You were telling me it was Al Wallace. And you were wrong then, and are wrong now. I said we had the best group of defensive ends in football, and you said it was the Panthers. SO going by that measure of your wrongness, I am right by default. :P

gandhi1007 12-10-2005 05:56 PM

Re: Interesting Snippets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dberce1
From SI.com, I'll post both, as they are just paragraphs:

Highly placed Jets sources say they'd prefer not to draft Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart because it would mean investing too much money in one player when they have many holes to fill. Those sources, too, are not crazy about Leinart because he doesn't possess a strong arm and will command about $24 million.
-- New York Post

Uhm... Does that mean if the Jets end up w/ the #1 overall pick in the draft, we can give them Brooks, Deuce, Jonathon Sullivan & our 1st round pick for the #1 spot (Reggie Bush) & Jonathon Vilma? Just wishful thinking. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

CheramieIII 12-10-2005 06:04 PM

RE: Re: Interesting Snippets
 
Nice wish gandhi, but I don;t think they would go for that one.

gandhi1007 12-10-2005 07:25 PM

Re: RE: Re: Interesting Snippets
 
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Nice wish gandhi, but I don;t think they would go for that one.


It's Brooks in the deal isn't it? O.K., we'll throw in a #3 draft pick & they can have Brooks to use for janitorial services at the Meadowlands. Just somehow fit him in the deal & get him the hell out of a Saints uniform!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:


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