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saintz08 12-16-2005 07:09 PM

Major League Soccer ends talks with San Antonio
 
Major League Soccer ends talks with San Antonio


SAN ANTONIO (AP) � Major League Soccer has pulled out of talks with San Antonio to locate a team in the city, saying local officials were not bargaining in good faith.

The Wednesday move came shortly after incoming mayor Phil Hardberger said at a news conference that the proposed deal with MLS didn't make financial sense for the city.

"Goodbye. That's what I would tell MLS," Hardberger said.

But MLS officials said goodbye first in a terse letter to outgoing Mayor Ed Garza, a strong proponent of bringing pro soccer to the Alamodome.

The letter, signed by MLS Commissioner Don Garber, said the work of Garza and league officials was undercut by politically driven criticisms that didn't take into consideration the benefits to the city.

"This has been changed at the 12th hour due to politics, and it is appalling," Garber later said in an interview with the San Antonio Express-News.

The letter said the criticisms impeded the effort to sell 5,000 season tickets or recruit local investors, two requirements MLS had set for granting a team in 2006.

Hardberger and several city council members criticized terms of the proposed deal, among them that the MLS team would get rent-free use of the dome.

Garza and MLS said an anchor tenant for the dome would help cut its operating costs and its annual deficit.

Garza questioned the abruptness of Hardberger's decision to end negotiations. Garza said the 10-member city council also should have some say in the matter.

"What are the alternatives?" Garza asked. "To continue to lose money (on the dome) or to try to find a major league sports tenant that creates opportunities to make money."

The Alamodome also is the stadium mentioned as a possible home for the NFL's Saints should the football team's owner, Tom Benson, decide to move his club to San Antonio from New Orleans, as Benson's lawyer has suggested he might. Officials have said the stadium would require hundreds of millions of dollars in renovations in order to meet NFL standards, however.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/socce...o_x.htm?csp=34

So San Antonio has a population base of about 60 % hispanics and a soccer league would not work out , but an NFL team would in the backyard of one of the most popular NFL teams in the league with an established fan base ......

Pass the crack pipe on down the line ......:08:

BlackandBlue 12-16-2005 07:12 PM

:broccoli:

Halo 12-16-2005 07:55 PM

BWA-HA-HA-HA

:flush: :pink: :pokechop:

saintswhodi 12-16-2005 09:08 PM

That article was from June. It's nothing recent. It's from even before Katrina happened. And I don't know what the hispanic population has to do with supporting soccer. They love basketball in SA, and Manu Ginobili. I haven't ever even seen anyone playing soccer, talking about it, nothing. But it does show what a dumb ass Hardberger is.

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"Goodbye. That's what I would tell MLS," Hardberger said.
Just in office, and already burning bridges. Jackass.

saintz08 12-16-2005 09:49 PM

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That article was from June.
Bingo ........

Saintswhodi , gets the point .......

Other then the hispanics love soccer part .....

Benson was clearly in the process of negotiating to potentially move the Saints before Katrina made landfall . This is where Benson must have walked to when he walked out of negotiations with the state before Katrina .......

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The Alamodome also is the stadium mentioned as a possible home for the NFL's Saints should the football team's owner, Tom Benson, decide to move his club to San Antonio from New Orleans, as Benson's lawyer has suggested he might.

saintswhodi 12-17-2005 09:16 AM

08, Benson mentioned San Antonio WAY BACK last year in November. The same time he mentioned New Mexico, and a billion dollar offer from a group in LA. That happened way before this, and was common knowledge. San Antonio was mentioned a long time ago by Benson.

And I don't know why you are stereotyping hispanics. Yeah, in Mexico, Spain, Brazil or/and South America they love soccer, but not in the US. At least not here in San Antonio. I think that's a pretty sill stereotype to try and put out there. Trust me, the hispanics in SA love basketball.

saintz08 12-17-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
08, Benson mentioned San Antonio WAY BACK last year in November. The same time he mentioned New Mexico, and a billion dollar offer from a group in LA. That happened way before this, and was common knowledge. San Antonio was mentioned a long time ago by Benson.

And I don't know why you are stereotyping hispanics. Yeah, in Mexico, Spain, Brazil or/and South America they love soccer, but not in the US. At least not here in San Antonio. I think that's a pretty sill stereotype to try and put out there. Trust me, the hispanics in SA love basketball.

Benson talks alot of chit .......

Pre Katrina was my interest , all the billion dollar offers and other stuff after Katrina is understandable , but how far did Benson get into talks before Katrina made landfall I would be interested to know .....

The hispanic sport is soccer , then baseball . Not saying some cross over is not applicable but higher majority is soccer .....

Crusader 12-17-2005 09:52 AM

MLS, What a joke.... :D

saintswhodi 12-17-2005 09:59 AM

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The hispanic sport is soccer , then baseball . Not saying some cross over is not applicable but higher majority is soccer .....
LMAO!! Are you kidding me? My wife is hispanic. NOONE in her entire family plays soccer. They play football. And basketball. Your stereotyping of hispanic people is getting silly. OUTSIDE OF THE US, yes, a large majority of hispanics love soccer and baseball. BUT IN THE US, especially in South Texas, that is nowhere close to the truth. Football is the number one sport for hispanics here. But, due to Manu Gonobili, even in Argentina, basketball is beginning to overtake soccer as a national sport. You really should stop the stereo tryping.

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Pre Katrina was my interest , all the billion dollar offers and other stuff after Katrina is understandable
The billion dollar offer was mentioned Nov or Dec 2004, well before Katrina, and well before this article.

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but how far did Benson get into talks before Katrina made landfall I would be interested to know .....
Well, considering he mentioned San Antonio as an option last Nov, that gives a lot of time for him to have conversations. Which I don't doubt at all he did.

saintz08 12-17-2005 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
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The hispanic sport is soccer , then baseball . Not saying some cross over is not applicable but higher majority is soccer .....
LMAO!! Are you kidding me? My wife is hispanic. NOONE in her entire family plays soccer. They play football. And basketball. Your stereotyping of hispanic people is getting silly. OUTSIDE OF THE US, yes, a large majority of hispanics love soccer and baseball. BUT IN THE US, especially in South Texas, that is nowhere close to the truth. Football is the number one sport for hispanics here. But, due to Manu Gonobili, even in Argentina, basketball is beginning to overtake soccer as a national sport. You really should stop the stereo tryping.

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Pre Katrina was my interest , all the billion dollar offers and other stuff after Katrina is understandable
The billion dollar offer was mentioned Nov or Dec 2004, well before Katrina, and well before this article.

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but how far did Benson get into talks before Katrina made landfall I would be interested to know .....
Well, considering he mentioned San Antonio as an option last Nov, that gives a lot of time for him to have conversations. Which I don't doubt at all he did.

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LMAO!! Are you kidding me? My wife is hispanic. NOONE in her entire family plays soccer.
So now we are supposed to base an entire culture on your family ???

http://www.aviso.net/dir/usa/hispanic/sports/

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Well, considering he mentioned San Antonio as an option last Nov, that gives a lot of time for him to have conversations. Which I don't doubt at all he did.
It is the depths of those conversations I would be real interested to find out .....


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