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Winwin 12-22-2005 08:00 PM

new mock
 
at least they have us taking a defensive player.

http://www.gbnreport.com/coyle.htm

saintswhodi 12-22-2005 08:43 PM

Might have something to do with the fact they had Leinart and Young going 2 and 3.

Tobias-Reiper 12-23-2005 08:05 AM

... why people waste their time with these "mocks", I don't get...

yeah, whiners are going to pick another QB #2 overall after picking Alex Smith #1 overall last year... sure...

jrmllb 12-23-2005 08:41 AM

Well they got Houston pegged, I think there is a definite chance they take on OT or OG, it sounds crazy but a RB is not thier problem, Davis is getting good yards when he manages to find a hole and there is always free agency, they need a O Line...SF does not take Leinart, that's idiocy...I have them taking Deangelo Williams, Lendale White, or Bush if he is still there...I can't predict the Saints, never have been able to except for the Rickly Williams Darft, every knew they were going to take him...

BlackandBlue 12-23-2005 09:29 AM

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yeah, whiners are going to pick another QB #2 overall after picking Alex Smith #1 overall last year... sure...
I also noticed that they have the Eagles pick as the following:

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14 Philadelphia (6-8) - Michael Bush - RB – Louisville; Eagles must find a way to run the ball better.
They already have, you moron. Sharp, Davis, and Baldinger were all on Playbook, talking about how Reid has got to work Moats into the starting lineup, somehow.
It amazes me that some people can get work as draft analysts, and not have a greater understanding of the teams in the NFL.
Somebody like Holmes from Ohio State would be a better pick for the Eagles, should he declare. The problem for the Eagles is their biggest need will also be one of the weaker positions in the draft this coming year (WR).

jrmllb 12-23-2005 10:42 AM

I think the Eagles address that in free agency or at least try to and they probably will pick up one in the late rounds of the draft...Samardzja to the Eagles, they know he is not going to have to TO factor coming out of a Weiss program

Euphoria 12-23-2005 11:08 AM

I don't know I think Houston may go after Leinart... I don't think that they are happy about Carr

BlackandBlue 12-23-2005 11:21 AM

Samardzja will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round, unless he puts on an exhibition during workouts and the combine.

papz 12-23-2005 02:39 PM

Oh yea baby, Jimmy Williams! That's what I like to see. :broccoli:

Mark my words... Vince Young will NOT be a top 10 pick. If he does, I will eat my sock. He is too raw as a quarterback and his name is not Michael Vick.

TallySaint 12-23-2005 03:25 PM

I'm not so sure the Texans are unhappy with Carr. Maybe so.

Perhaps they'll use their position in the draft to trade for big time OL possibilties.



Time will tell.



8)

CheramieIII 12-23-2005 03:30 PM

Houston will take DBrick and give Carr 1 more year. Carr is a good QB under the right circumstances and that means a good OLine helping the brother out. I would love a trade Brooks for Carr straight up.

TallySaint 12-23-2005 03:36 PM

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I would love a trade Brooks for Carr straight up.
Not likely. But not out of the question. Stranger things have happened. Houston may very well need a QB that can run for his life if they don't see the OL shored up for a season or two.

$$$ may be a big hurdle in that "straight up" trade.




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AllSaints 12-23-2005 07:14 PM

:D Leinart 8)

Winwin 12-23-2005 07:49 PM

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Carr is a good QB under the right circumstances and that means a good OLine helping the brother out. I would love a trade Brooks for Carr straight up.

word has it, david carr has accuracy problems holds onto the ball too long and his decision making is very suspect. brooks is considered a stepup in houston so what would that mean in bringing carr to neworleans?

AllSaints 12-23-2005 07:53 PM

i thought our o-line was supppppppose to be good man they suck !!!

Winwin 12-23-2005 07:59 PM

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i thought our o-line was supppppppose to be good man they suck !!!

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New Orleans Saints 10-6 1 Playoff win !!<<never mind

yeah, been sucking for quite some time now. but still not as bad as the front 7 on defense minus w.smith.

BlackandBlue 12-23-2005 08:12 PM

Actually, I can say basing last year versus this year, the defense has progressed, and the offense has regressed. Point the finger where you want, this team is just bad.

NFLDiva 12-23-2005 09:19 PM

And is that your "expert" opinion BnB??

AllSaints 12-23-2005 10:02 PM

Well i think that that our D-line is gettting better kinda i mean will smith is doing good charles grant i havent seen him in a while and darren howard..... yeah ...... brian young terrible and whos the other one oh yeah fat boy........4 years of number 1 picks of linemen and they suck! as for our o-line love it without riley but Jerome mayberry was suppose to be this great signing ME i havent seen that ..... Jammal Brown will be good just then penatlysss just rookie mistakes...dang who was the guy who got hurt at the beggin of the season gunna take gandy a run for the starting job....... STINCOMB i think ya no who im tlaking bout maybe next year he will be alright ....Lecharles is good and the other guy.....who starting is ............ yeah well our wrs could be better CATCH THE BALL our rbs good qbs...... *Cough* linebacker *choking* horrible * DBS well JASON CRAFT SUCKSS !!!! Mckienze ah well he is alright fred thomas ok fakir brown ok dwight smith good and our rookie Bullocks ........ well hes a rookie wat else can i say and our coaching bad horrible worst and or ownership worst ever and out history terrible so wat we are looking at for next year is a .500 or below..... A 9-7 10-6 is a long shot................................................

Winwin 12-24-2005 07:36 AM

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Actually, I can say basing last year versus this year, the defense has progressed, and the offense has regressed. Point the finger where you want, this team is just bad.

you are right the defense has progressed, and the offense has regressed. the secondary in my opinion is a top 10 in the nfl, but the defensive tackles aren't defensive tackles and the lb's aren't nfl calibre.

for 5 years the ol is among the most penalized? that's coaching. 5years wr's among the nfl leaders in drops? again coaching, qb routinely making mistakes? coaching.

BlackandBlue 12-24-2005 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLDiva
And is that your "expert" opinion BnB??

OR, should your question be, "Did you overstate the obvious, BnB?" :wink:

Call it a pre-emptive strike to prevent another hair-pulling, slap fight. People have a tendency to lose sight of the big picture, sometimes.

CheramieIII 12-24-2005 10:17 AM

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Call it a pre-emptive strike to prevent another hair-pulling, slap fight. People have a tendency to lose sight of the big picture, sometimes.
Hey BnB, you were right about the loss of sight thing, cuz I think Win just poked me in the eyes.

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for 5 years the ol is among the most penalized? that's coaching. 5years wr's among the nfl leaders in drops? again coaching, qb routinely making mistakes? coaching.
Hey Win, what's your real name? Come on now don't be shy!

Hey Diva stop the teasing. The avatar looks great but I have not had my spankin yet this week and it's bad enough I am frustrated about the Saints don't need anymore frustration if you know what I mean.

Tobias-Reiper 12-24-2005 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Winwin
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Carr is a good QB under the right circumstances and that means a good OLine helping the brother out. I would love a trade Brooks for Carr straight up.

word has it, david carr has accuracy problems holds onto the ball too long and his decision making is very suspect. brooks is considered a stepup in houston so what would that mean in bringing carr to neworleans?

Who's word is that, Billy?
Every time Carr doesn't give the RB the ball is a potential sack... the guy drops 3 steps back and sees the jail break coming at him..


..not saying that Carr is great or anything like that... just saying there is a difference between him not having a pocket, and not knowing how to use a pocket, like some benched QBs...

Winwin 12-24-2005 04:34 PM

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Who's word is that, Billy?
Every time Carr doesn't give the RB the ball is a potential sack... the guy drops 3 steps back and sees the jail break coming at him..


..not saying that Carr is great or anything like that... just saying there is a difference between him not having a pocket, and not knowing how to use a pocket, like some benched QBs...

that's the word from the texans, their fans the texans media people. you might not like it but they consider the guy beneath possum scum. ever hear of throwing it away? carr hasn't. easy, very easy to find a friendly sideline when the rush is on unless you're carr and too stupid to figure that out.

saintswhodi 12-24-2005 04:41 PM

I seem to recall there was a poster here, named BOB, who crapped all over the idea Carr would be a better QB here than Brooks. Looks awful similar, even the arguments are the same.....................................

Winwin 12-24-2005 04:44 PM

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I seem to recall there was a poster here, named BOB, who crapped all over the idea Carr would be a better QB here than Brooks. Looks awful similar, even the arguments are the same.....................................

i am new here, if you disagree with my debate that's your choice.

papz 12-24-2005 05:00 PM

And I thought I was the only one who noticed the similiarities between the two of them... :P

Winwin 12-24-2005 05:03 PM

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And I thought I was the only one who noticed the similiarities between the two of them...

again fellas, i'm not whomever ya'll are trying to make me out to be. just thought i could share my opinion here. forgive me, for thinking this was a free country.

CheramieIII 12-24-2005 05:04 PM

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And I thought I was the only one who noticed the similiarities between the two of them...
All of us noticed Papz, we were trying not rattle the cage. You can tell he is trying really hard not to act like BOB but it's just so obvious.

G504 12-24-2005 06:02 PM

I think we might end up with the 2 pick.

CheramieIII 12-24-2005 06:06 PM

Number one if Houston beats the 49ers and the SOS Gods shine on us! What's that saying, the sun shines on every dogs arse", oh what the hell you know what I mean. Diva get to spankin!!!

pakowitz 12-24-2005 06:14 PM

wOOt, count me in for some of that...

CheramieIII 12-24-2005 10:04 PM

Diva is probably spankin 08 right now. 08 holla at a brotha, waz up!

BlackandBlue 12-25-2005 05:43 PM

If you guys don't start treating her the same way you treat other members here, I'm going to be the one dealing out some **** , and I promise you, you won't enjoy the outcome.
She, like you, comes here to discuss Saints related items, not who's in line next for a spanking.

CheramieIII 12-25-2005 06:01 PM

BnB no harm intended. They're the ones that started that spankin crap anyway and if you had started talkin about spankins I would have probably say something to you about it to or maybe not? I do not want to anger the posting gods.

BlackandBlue 12-25-2005 06:10 PM

The flow of the forums these days, leads me to believe that this is a more relaxed, enjoyable website.

That being said, ask yourself this question- how many women post to the forums? We have one, now, and I don't want to receive a PM from her saying something to the effect of, "Thanks for showing me the site. I would have stayed longer, but a few sexually charged males are making it difficult to stay on topic, so I'm going to leave." I'm not concerned about Diva, she can handle herself easily without my help, I just don't want this to turn into a pattern, should other females decide they want to post.

Call me the Israel of the forums, cause I'm all about pre-emptive strikes these days. ;)

CheramieIII 12-25-2005 06:12 PM

Understood, you still da man!

BlackandBlue 12-25-2005 06:16 PM

Thank you, my brotha. Now, I'm off to get tanked, ya'll have a pleasant evening. :D

papz 12-25-2005 06:25 PM

She's the only female? Could have fooled me. My name is Nancy you dumb douche bags.

CheramieIII 12-25-2005 07:04 PM

Hey Papz, I don't think BnB or I intended to offend any women posting on this site. BnB is just trying to do his job and the fact that I did not even put 2 and 2 together speaks well of this site. If your are a women, you are welcome here. I respect everyone's opinion no matter who they are, the douche bag statement has been taken under advisement.


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