Race for Reggie Bush now includes five teams

pakowitz · 12-27-2005, 12:50 PM

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Once just a two-team horse race, the Reggie Bush Derby has suddenly been joined by several more entries, and it may take the NFL equivalent of a photo finish next Sunday evening to determine the outcome of the chase for the top spot in the 2006 draft.

With the possibility that Bush, under at least one scenario, could be knocked out of the winner's circle.

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CheramieIII · 12-27-2005, 03:16 PM

If Houston wins and we lose there is no one that can touch our SOS and that's the bottom line cuz Stone Cold said so.

BeeoBee · 12-27-2005, 09:41 PM

not true..if we lose ,houston wins AND the JETS lose ..we tie the jets..they get the tie breaker since we beat them..but i dont think they will try to lose on purpose and they are playin buffalo which is an easy game..i cant believe im sayin this but i hope the saints suck it up and lose sunday..OUCH..THAT HURT..I THINK IM GONNA PUKE

CheramieIII · 12-27-2005, 09:49 PM

Bee I don't think head to head comes into play in the draft game and if it does show me the way.

BlackandBlue · 12-27-2005, 09:53 PM

Were the Saints to secure the top pick, it might alter the landscape of the '06 draft, and could keep Bush from being the top player chosen. The Saints already have a standout tailback in Deuce McAllister and, even though he is currently rehabilitating from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, the New Orleans star is expected to be fully recovered well in advance of training camp. Plus, the Saints last summer signed McAllister to a new $50.1 million contract and would probably be reluctant to make another lucrative investment in the tailback position.

New Orleans, which will probably jettison veteran quarterback Aaron Brooks after the season, might be more inclined to address its needs at that critical position. And that could thrust Bush's Southern California teammate and fellow Heisman Trophy winner, Matt Leinart, into the top spot. Then again, given that Saints owner Tom Benson claims to have lost $45 million this season as a result of Hurricane Katrina, he might not want the top spot and the financial realities one incurs with it, and could trade the pick.

Unless there's an ownership change, this is a very real scenario.

BeeoBee · 12-28-2005, 10:51 AM

if we lose,the jets lose,and houston wins ..the jets and us will be tied for last place..how do you suppose they decide who gets first pick?i think its head to head and if we didnt play each other it goes to strength of schedule..doesnt that sound right?

saintswhodi · 12-28-2005, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by BeeoBee

if we lose,the jets lose,and houston wins ..the jets and us will be tied for last place..how do you suppose they decide who gets first pick?i think its head to head and if we didnt play each other it goes to strength of schedule..doesnt that sound right?

Actually, that's not right at all. Head to head is never a consideration when it comes to the draft. They go to a coin flip if two teams have the same record, and same weak SOS. If your scenario plays out, we lose, Jets lose, Hou wins, we will pick number one.

BeeoBee · 12-28-2005, 11:42 AM

if we lose and the jets lose it goes to coin flip??we will have the same record and have to flip a coin?!?thats crap!!if it comes to that we'll for sure have 2nd pick..no way we're gonna win a coin flip

saintswhodi · 12-28-2005, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by BeeoBee

if we lose and the jets lose it goes to coin flip??we will have the same record and have to flip a coin?!?thats crap!!if it comes to that we'll for sure have 2nd pick..no way we're gonna win a coin flip

Christ almighty. It only goes to the coin flip if we have the same SOS. I am pretty sure we will still have the weakest SOS of all the 3-13 teams once this week plays out.

spkb25 · 12-28-2005, 07:20 PM

there is NO reason to win this last game. if we can get bush i would love it. if we get matt i will be less excited. i thik deuce is done. i hope i am wrong but i just don't see anything from the guy over the last two years that mnakes me think other. get bush and we can build around him. i think the guy is going to be great.

12-27-2005, 12:50 PM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Race for Reggie Bush now includes five teams By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com Once just a two-team horse race, the Reggie Bush Derby has suddenly been joined by several more entries, and it may take the NFL equivalent of a photo finish next Sunday evening to determine the outcome of the chase for the top spot in the 2006 draft. With the possibility that Bush, under at least one scenario, could be knocked out of the winner's circle. for the rest of this article... click the link below: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2272110

12-27-2005, 03:16 PM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Race for Reggie Bush now includes five teams If Houston wins and we lose there is no one that can touch our SOS and that's the bottom line cuz Stone Cold said so.

12-27-2005, 09:41 PM	#3
BeeoBee Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 67	not true..if we lose ,houston wins AND the JETS lose ..we tie the jets..they get the tie breaker since we beat them..but i dont think they will try to lose on purpose and they are playin buffalo which is an easy game..i cant believe im sayin this but i hope the saints suck it up and lose sunday..OUCH..THAT HURT..I THINK IM GONNA PUKE
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12-27-2005, 09:53 PM	#5
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Were the Saints to secure the top pick, it might alter the landscape of the '06 draft, and could keep Bush from being the top player chosen. The Saints already have a standout tailback in Deuce McAllister and, even though he is currently rehabilitating from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, the New Orleans star is expected to be fully recovered well in advance of training camp. Plus, the Saints last summer signed McAllister to a new $50.1 million contract and would probably be reluctant to make another lucrative investment in the tailback position. New Orleans, which will probably jettison veteran quarterback Aaron Brooks after the season, might be more inclined to address its needs at that critical position. And that could thrust Bush's Southern California teammate and fellow Heisman Trophy winner, Matt Leinart, into the top spot. Then again, given that Saints owner Tom Benson claims to have lost $45 million this season as a result of Hurricane Katrina, he might not want the top spot and the financial realities one incurs with it, and could trade the pick. Unless there's an ownership change, this is a very real scenario.

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BeeoBee Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 67	if we lose,the jets lose,and houston wins ..the jets and us will be tied for last place..how do you suppose they decide who gets first pick?i think its head to head and if we didnt play each other it goes to strength of schedule..doesnt that sound right?
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12-27-2005, 09:49 PM	#4
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Bee I don't think head to head comes into play in the draft game and if it does show me the way.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BeeoBee if we lose,the jets lose,and houston wins ..the jets and us will be tied for last place..how do you suppose they decide who gets first pick?i think its head to head and if we didnt play each other it goes to strength of schedule..doesnt that sound right? Actually, that's not right at all. Head to head is never a consideration when it comes to the draft. They go to a coin flip if two teams have the same record, and same weak SOS. If your scenario plays out, we lose, Jets lose, Hou wins, we will pick number one.

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BeeoBee Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 67	if we lose and the jets lose it goes to coin flip??we will have the same record and have to flip a coin?!?thats crap!!if it comes to that we'll for sure have 2nd pick..no way we're gonna win a coin flip
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12-28-2005, 11:47 AM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BeeoBee if we lose and the jets lose it goes to coin flip??we will have the same record and have to flip a coin?!?thats crap!!if it comes to that we'll for sure have 2nd pick..no way we're gonna win a coin flip Christ almighty. It only goes to the coin flip if we have the same SOS. I am pretty sure we will still have the weakest SOS of all the 3-13 teams once this week plays out.

12-28-2005, 07:20 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	there is NO reason to win this last game. if we can get bush i would love it. if we get matt i will be less excited. i thik deuce is done. i hope i am wrong but i just don't see anything from the guy over the last two years that mnakes me think other. get bush and we can build around him. i think the guy is going to be great.