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MordorIV 01-03-2006 01:02 PM

Saints Pickup List (Includeing Coach's)
 
Just let me know what you would do if you were the owner or MG at the Saints?

ScottBalot 01-03-2006 02:53 PM

First, I hire Mike Singletary as head coach. I let him pick the assistant coaches. Next, I have to identify who to bring back and who to let go personnel-wise. I then attack in full the positions I need to fill in free agency. Whatever I don't fill in free agency, I fill in the draft. If I still have needs, I look to see what is out there after June 1st, and start training camp.

D_it_up 01-03-2006 03:24 PM

The list of keepers on personnel shouldn't be very long. Here's the players I would keep:

Deuce
Will Smith
Charles Grant
LeCharles Bentley
Jammal Brown
A Mac
Mitch Berger
McKenzie
D. Smith
Bullocks
Fahkir Brown (only as a nickel or dime back)
Watson (moved to WLB)
Stallworth
Devery Henderson
Joe Horn

and maybe a few younger players....that's about it. I'd totally revamp the majority of the team. If I were Tom Benson, I'd sell the team. If I were Mickey Loomis, I'd fire myself.

JOESAM2002 01-03-2006 03:35 PM

Nice list D, but I think I'd add Zach Hilton. He showed potential this year and one hell of a target. Besides he might bring his sister Paris to a game for me! :shock:

Euphoria 01-03-2006 03:55 PM

I think I would look at trading everyone I could... after all we have just begun to rebuild now. Deuce isn't that specail anymore, he is just hype now, so if you can snag Bush you do it...

I would go after Childress as a HC if I couln't get Pete Carroll

LordOfEntropy 01-03-2006 04:04 PM

I like the list. And definitely keep Hilton.

As for anyone not on the list... trade bait. Trade 'em if you can, but replace 'em all. Most especially trade Carney. He's been done in my book since he missed that extra point after the River City Relay.

Nobody should -ever- miss an extra point in this league. And most -especially- when the game is on the line.

ScottBalot 01-03-2006 04:58 PM

Here's my base list:

QB-Bouman, McPhearson
RB-Deuce, Stecker, Thomas
FB-Karney
TE-Hall, Hilton
OT-J. Brown, Stinchcomb, Archibald, Mayberry
OG-Holland,Nesbit
OC-Jacox, Bentley (although I don't think he stays)
WR-Horn, Stallworth, Henderson, Lewis

DE-Grant, W. Smith, T. Bryant, Verdon
DT-Sullivan, Woodard, B. Young
ILB-Fincher, McKinnon
OLB-Watson, Allen, Bockwoldt, Slaughter
CB-McKenzie, F. Brown, F. Thomas
S-D. Smith, Bullocks

P-Berger
K-Carney

That's 40 guys. New staff needs a new starting QB, young capable backup at RB, backup at Guard, backup at Center, need a tall, possession WR, new starting NT, new starting MLB, nickle/dime cornerback, backup safety, new kicker. This is just a starting point if I were in charge.

D_it_up 01-03-2006 05:19 PM

I don't know how I looked over Zach Hilton. He really did impress me late in the season once he finally got some PT. I also overlooked Mike Karney, Tony Bryant, McKinnon, and Aaron Stecker. However, with the addition of those players, there aren't many more on the team I would keep. Some on Scott's list would be "only in case of emergency" players.

D_it_up 01-03-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

I think I would look at trading everyone I could... after all we have just begun to rebuild now. Deuce isn't that specail anymore, he is just hype now, so if you can snag Bush you do it...
What do you suppose they do? Trade everyone for draft picks and take nothing but rookies? Isn't there a limit on the amount of draft picks you can have? Or should they trade their players to another team for another player straight up? Do you realize how rare it is to see a straight up trade in the NFL? As far as Reggie Bush is concerned, I don't think there is anyone that wouldn't want him in a Saints uniform, HOWEVER, running back is NOT the glaring need for this team. A franchise QB is, though. That's why Leinart is definitely the best option as long as they can build an offensive line to protect him. With the receivers we've had the last few years, Leinart could shred defenses in the right system and having all day to throw. That in turn would open up the run game more, because teams wouldn't only be focusing on Deuce. Deuce struggled because NO DEFENSE truly respected Aaron Brooks, so they zeroed in on the running game. Deuce is still a top 10 runningback when healthy, regardless of what anyone thinks. They just haven't had the offensive line for him to prove it.

ScottBalot 01-03-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by D_it_up2
I don't know how I looked over Zach Hilton. He really did impress me late in the season once he finally got some PT. I also overlooked Mike Karney, Tony Bryant, McKinnon, and Aaron Stecker. However, with the addition of those players, there aren't many more on the team I would keep. Some on Scott's list would be "only in case of emergency" players.

I wouldn't necessarily go into the season with all those players, but I would use them as a basis for competition with whatever guys I would bring in for training camp. You have to remember some guys may have their buttons pushed differently with a new coaching staff, and may play better than they did under Haslett. I'd also have to have a long talk with Joe Horn about his alligator mouth.

ScottBalot 01-03-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria
I think I would look at trading everyone I could... after all we have just begun to rebuild now. Deuce isn't that specail anymore, he is just hype now, so if you can snag Bush you do it...

I would go after Childress as a HC if I couln't get Pete Carroll

If they aren't worth having in New Orleans, what makes you think anyone will give up draft picks to get them somewhere else?

MordorIV 01-03-2006 06:56 PM

Like the Info Keep it up guys.

Memnoch_TP 01-04-2006 10:48 AM

It should go like this...


HC: Mike Singletary
OC: Mike Martz
DC: Dom Capers

- A hard nosed defensive minded head coach to bring some discipline to the team. Singletary could do wonders with our young defense with Capers scheming with him. Martz has wonderful QB development skills, and a flare for offense. With a strong head coach to keep the "Mad Scientist" in check, and experienced Coordinators to ease Singletary's relative lack of coaching experience and this trio is a strong pyramid to stand on for both 2006 and the years after.

Did I make you nervous when I mentioned "QB Development"? Dont worry, I realize that this Saints team has alot of potential. Potential for "Now", not for "Development". So we forget about Lineart. No rookies. We cut Bouman and keep McPhereson. Then we bring in Billy Volek and Jon Kitna and open the QB competition to the best of the three. I think Kitna could win us games now. Laugh all you want but he is a pretty proven commodity. Volek could win us games now, and for a long time coming. He is an expeienced backup with several starts and outstaning games under his belt, and could be the QB of today AND tommorrow for the Saints.

The RB stable stays as it is. Stecker has much heart, Smith has much experience, and Deuce is the man.

At TE, Zach Hilton gets the nod as my starter.

And the worrisome WR quandries. Az Hakim is really on the team? Worrisome indeed. First off, Horn is showing his age. He is still a great clutch reciever and always aware of where the chains end. Joe stays. As for Donte "Butterfingers" Stallworth... I dont care how fast you are kid. Get lost. We try to develop Poole and Henderson a bit more, and look for some more WR talent in FA and the draft.



Dont have time to go into the defense, but that is my dream for 2006.

jrmllb 01-04-2006 12:03 PM

I don't think Singletary is ready, Kubiak as HC...his choice on OC and Capers as DC....Trade brooks for a good down lineman...dump Bouman (he is not an upgrade from AB)...Bring one more young qb to compete and one veteran like Kitna to compete with A-Mac...Darft D'Brick or a shutdown corner in first round thats ready or pick up one in FA...

MordorIV 01-04-2006 01:12 PM

Trade Brooks and Deuce i think. for a veteran QB and then pick up Leinart in the Draft and some WR and a couple OLB's.


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